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Neodusk — How Did Book 3 CHANGE Korra? - A Thought Comic

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I decided to do something different from the usual sort of thing that I do here. I enjoy discussing products I like, such as tv shows, films, and video games, so I had this GENIUS idea of sharing my thoughts on the internet (I know. Incredibly original). But there are blogs and journals already coming out of the web's wazoo and I figured "Hey, I make comics. And I like talking about stuff. Why not talk about stuff through...comics? Maybe?" So I decided to experiment with this format of discussion. I don't know how much discussion this will actually generate and much less if this will become a regular thing, but the latter (particularly because of how long it took to make this) will probably depend on how much and what quality of feedback I get on this so...yeah. If you like it, please let me know.

I'd love to hear people's thoughts on the ideas I propose here (whether they're for or against them) so, please comment and enjoy.
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NamurSiad [2018-01-24 05:27:42 +0000 UTC]

The fireball they throwed on aang looked like a smiley face

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amniidw [2017-06-12 22:35:20 +0000 UTC]

In the beginning i didn't like her because it seemed everything was just so easy for her. When we first met her she could already bend water, fire and earth, and under five minutes later she had mastered them all, and in season two she can go into the avatar state and give people their bending back. I know Aang achieved all these things at a younger age than Korra but because she did them se early in the show it gave the feeling that the only thing she had to work hard for was learning airbending.

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Neodusk In reply to amniidw [2017-06-12 22:40:20 +0000 UTC]

Well I think the idea was that korra was able to bend easily, but connecting to spirits and the spirit world were what was harder for her. Except it all kind of just clicks for her at the end of the first season. There's no real learning of patience and harmony and introspection that develops over the course of the season. She just fights with people, those fights get resolved very forcibly, and then at the end of it "oh look I can energybend now". Seasons 3 and 4 were the only ones where I felt they had established a real conflict for her to explore and resolve that led to what felt like natural and genuine character growth.

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AdeptDamage [2016-05-24 03:51:24 +0000 UTC]

Personally I think Korra is an overrated character and founder her arc to be boring.

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NeoChandler [2016-04-27 09:51:52 +0000 UTC]

Deep and awesome. Deeply awesome.

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SilentCarto [2015-06-08 12:44:33 +0000 UTC]

Interesting thoughts, but I'm not so sure about Korra's natural inclinations aligning with her environment in season 1 and 2. It seems to me more like a "when all you have is a hammer" problem. For example, a more diplomatic, conciliatory approach could have cut the popular support out from under Amon's organization without ever coming to grips with them. It was a battle for hearts and minds, and her hardline approach only stiffened the Equalist cause and escalated the situation. Yes, she was able to overcome them with raw force in the end after collecting the right allies, but she made the situation much worse for herself by essentially telling people to sit down and shut up -- which, to someone who feels they have a legitimate beef, sounds a lot like "Your concerns are not valid."

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Neodusk In reply to SilentCarto [2016-04-25 03:10:30 +0000 UTC]

I realize this is a very old response, but I'm replying to it anyway. This is a counterpoint people have given to me before and, while I basically agree, I think the important thing (to me) is that Korra still WINS in the end by doing things her way, at least in season 1, which is where most of the hangups about her character came from. Things in Book 1 probably would've gone smoother if she were more patient and diplomatic, but, as I addressed in the comic thingy, everything worked out in the end, so there's not much of a reason for her to be like "oh, well, clearly I need to do things differently from now on." It's why I feel more and more after this series has ended that Korra's real character development began in season 2, because that's ACTUALLY when acting like her usual self didn't work out so well. Being totally aggressive and flipping out cost her her relationship with Tenzin, with Mako, her memories, and a direct attack on Unalaq just gave him everything he needed. That was the first time when she really had to go "okay, I need a different approach", leading her to meditate in the Tree of Time and come up with a spiritual solution to a seemingly military problem.

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SilentCarto In reply to Neodusk [2016-04-30 03:56:02 +0000 UTC]

You make a good point, and while she did ultimately win by being aggressive, I think she still had valuable lessons to learn from S1. Aang never had to struggle with teamwork -- he was a stranger in a strange land from the moment the iceberg opened, having to rely on others for everything from bending training to social cues. But he was a naturally friendly and peaceful kid, so that wasn't a challenge for him. Korra's strength of personality and self-sufficiency are great personal traits, but she had to learn to rely on others when she faced something too big to handle alone. Her stint in pro bending was a microcosm of that lesson. She also had to learn that bending wasn't the be-all and end-all of a fight, and non-benders can be powerful foes and valuable allies.

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Neodusk In reply to SilentCarto [2016-04-30 06:16:16 +0000 UTC]

I will agree about the teamwork thing, though it might've done the season better to place more emphasis on that to help her character feel less static and more appealing in Book 1.

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SilentCarto In reply to Neodusk [2016-05-05 04:08:27 +0000 UTC]

No disagreement there. I know all the seasons were around 13 eps long, but S1 was the only one that really felt like a half-season to me.

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irrenderNarr42 [2015-06-03 16:46:32 +0000 UTC]

so what you are saying is that it would have been more interesting if korra were put in a situation like aang in ba-sing-se?

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yoichi-masaki [2015-05-25 09:19:27 +0000 UTC]

I liked korra's personality from the beging, it was kinda like Katara got her own show... but she didn't have great thing to do in her world... It was like watching her get flung from plot to plot.

With regular avatar there was so much going on in each episode. they had 1 goal, and took 3 seasons developing their friendship and getting stronger. It made it to the point where when they went and tried to make a (ugggg) movie of the first season it was difficult becuase so much was going to be left out

with the first season of korra it felt like nothing really happened, in fact if you made it into a movie it would be like an alternate dimension big hero six.

Even thoug I liked Korra, and their were some memorable charecters, it kinda felt like everybody just kinda tolerated each other by the end. I mean I love KorraxAsami but that didn't seem set up at all. They barely even talked, "she was the only one I sent letters to" ..... soo your forshadowing equals "in that time my brother and the princess became great friends"  foreshadowing take work, stuff has to be set up so you go back and say "ahh thats funny, the piolot did have red and blue stones in the background" or "she does have 2 gems... kinda weird" "oh not all fusions have 2 arms" ect ... not "oh well they did ride in a car together and send letters to each other in 4 seasons worth of show"

and nothing was going to top the Ravva arc.... It just seemed like mabey it should have gone   Amon->opened spirit world when fooled by uncle-> Zahir/kuvira->final showdown

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HopelessBookRomantic [2015-02-21 03:10:51 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree. The people I know who watched AtLA and LoK would often complain that they didn't like Korra because she was so different from Aang. I'd argue that that was the point. The last two seasons of Korra were just plain more interesting, like AtLA we had to be patient (which of course I hated but it got me coming back every week). Zaheer/The Red Lotus and Kuvira were smart enough to know when and where to start fights, forcing Korra to adapt. 
Well put.   

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Dynasty-Dawn [2015-02-12 08:13:57 +0000 UTC]

Brilliant observation/reflection.

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Greatkingrat88 [2015-02-03 14:00:55 +0000 UTC]

My main gripe withy Korra wasn't that her personality was brash to the point of idiocy. As a character, I liked her much better than Aang- she was interesting, clearly flawed and human. What did bug me wasn't anything like that, no.
What bugged me was that she was written as an incompetent. With a brawler type of role, you'd expect that she was at least good at fighting- she certainly wasn't very good at diplomacy, subtlety or negotiation- but she spends each season getting pounded by all her opponents. Which would be all right, if it led to a satisfying climax in the finale. But consistently, in each finale, she is bailed out after failing to overcome her problems when it matters the most. Season 1- deus ex airbending; season 2, double deus ex machina- first the spirit giant, that fails, and then Jinora bails her out. Season three had the opportunity for enormously satisfying heroism- poisoned and imprisoned, our hero lashes out against the villains who have had her on the run all series long... but she is unable to overcome the poison, and needs to be rescued by her friends. Season four sees her accomplish a draw, leading into a peaceful resolution, and it's sad that this is the best she ever does.

In conclusion: Korra is a great character, but she displays neither talent for balance and negotiation, nor exceptional talent as a fighter. It's a letdown- she is the avatar; legendary power should be her forte. And it just isn't.

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RoseAndTheGun94 In reply to Greatkingrat88 [2015-07-20 14:38:10 +0000 UTC]

I think they made Korra so suckish at fighting enemies to show that skill and experience are both necessary to win a fight. Korra was very skilled at all forms of bending early in her life but unlike aang she had little experience fighting for her life. Aang mastered three of the four elements crash course style mastering as a means for survival. Additionally the diplomatic ways korra beat her enemies is like what neodusk talked about. Aang was the diplomat but he had to beat enemies through force, while Korra was a soldier who had to win through alternate means. Plus it contrasts to ATLA were Aang was almost unbeatable. Aang could hold his own against the strongest of his time while being a novice at three of the four elements. He faced ozai after just getting a grip on fire bending.

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Greatkingrat88 In reply to RoseAndTheGun94 [2015-07-20 19:29:59 +0000 UTC]

That argument would make sense, except that she consistently fail even when it matters the most. The whole "get up again no matter what" moral is kind of pointless if all getting up again achieves is being knocked down over and over, ending in capital failure. 

"but unlike aang she had little experience fighting for her life"
I'm not buying it. She had proper fighting training well into her teens, and season one saw her gain plenty of real experience as well.

"Korra was a soldier who had to win through alternate means"
...just, what? Korra is the avatar, just like Aang was. And unlike him, she had the training proper for an avatar. She is not a "soldier", never was. And you say "win by alternate means", implying that her victories were in any way caused by Korra herself- they weren't. It was an airdending deus ex machina, followed by a double deus ex machina in the form of spirit giant korra (a failure) and then Jinorra, and then finally being bailed out by her airbender friends. None of this was due to clever planning of any kind- it was just dumb luck and convenient writing. 

Aang beating Ozai was plothax, to be honest. The way Korra was written was just sort of... bad, really.

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Keytee-chan In reply to Greatkingrat88 [2015-05-19 09:43:02 +0000 UTC]

Pff.. Korra is amazing, because she's a brawler girl, those characters are always the best.

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Greatkingrat88 In reply to Keytee-chan [2015-05-19 09:51:42 +0000 UTC]

But she sucks at brawling.

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julian0123 [2015-01-23 15:12:30 +0000 UTC]

It was an interesting format
I never saw it like this. It sure shows the 2 avstars in a new light to me.

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AdeptDamage [2015-01-21 23:25:55 +0000 UTC]

I don't think Korra is a bad character, but I don't think she's a very interesting one either. Her whole arc is just "Hot blooded hero becomes mature." Again not bad development just not very captivating. They only part of Korra that was engaging was the PTSD she endured in Book 4, aside from that she's just your typical shonen protagonist.

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Neodusk In reply to AdeptDamage [2015-01-21 23:26:50 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I can at least kind of agree with the last part.

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AdeptDamage In reply to Neodusk [2015-01-22 18:37:00 +0000 UTC]

With what exactly the PTSD in book 4?

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Neodusk In reply to AdeptDamage [2015-01-22 18:42:06 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.

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AdeptDamage In reply to Neodusk [2015-01-24 01:09:32 +0000 UTC]

Also not trying to sound obsessive or confrontational anything but, another problem I have with Korra is that she's to much of the opposite of Aang. Now don't get me wrong I don't think making her more like Aang will improve her character either, and yes there should contrasting elements, but if you focus too much on making a character different from another, it would strip them of an identity as much as making that character too similar. Again Korra shouldn't be "Aang 2.0" but making her the "Anit-Aang" isn't much better.

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AdeptDamage In reply to Neodusk [2015-01-22 21:15:08 +0000 UTC]

How so?

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PotatoOni [2015-01-06 19:34:42 +0000 UTC]

I've never considered Korra to be that annoying in Book 1 and 2. Only during the first half of Book 2 she irritated me because it seemed that her previous experience didn't had any impact on her at all. But from "Beginnings" onwards she got much better.

And you're right. Watching the show again back to back really shows a continuing development of her character. However concerning the show as a whole I personally still feel that it could've profited from more episodes per season. The creators and writers said that they prefer 13 episode seasons but I believe that they have a hard time with the pacing using this format despite the story being tighter packed then it was in TLA.

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Morty901 [2014-12-23 12:55:04 +0000 UTC]

This is true and mirrors what I've thought about Korra. But I don't think you're quite right about Book One. She wasn't put into a situation she couldn't solve by violence - at first. Everything was perfectly set up for Korra to have to change her attitude. But she didn't. She kept punching and the Equalists were narratively torn down so that punching worked for her. She didn't have even a moment of reflection. That is what annoyed people so much, myself included. No such nitpicks about Book Two, though, you're right about that. At that point I really found her just a very unsympathetic, violent person. Book Three brought her back to what she could have been in the first book - someone hot-headed, but ultimately well-meaning who ends up sacrificing herself rather than see innocents harmed. If only they could have written her as such from the beginning... I used to hate this series, I really did. Now I don't anymore, but it still sucks to think how great it could have been from the beginning. Instead, many fans were soured towards it after the first two seasons and never managed to get back into it.

That said, the amount of hate Korra got was kind of excessive. She wasn't a very good protagonist, but come on. Then again, it's the Internet. Every opinion gets echo-chambered into an extreme one.

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Gram91 [2014-12-20 05:59:26 +0000 UTC]

You were right with that second to last panel. The show is finished and it did make me think of the previous seasons. And I like them better for it, for each positive that they brought to the table.

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Boneguy [2014-12-14 18:31:25 +0000 UTC]

To be fair I wouldnt say that Korra is only reason show just isnt as good as previous Avatar. Side characters also really lack compared to Toph or Zuko. Bowlin especially feels one-dimensional compared to Sokka. And that wouldnt be such a problem if each character didnt need their own  season long plot point. Thats why we end with such atrocities like "Bowlin gets a abusive girlfriend and you should think its funny rather than sick".

Well that and season 3 has less shipping and pro-bending.

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Takimashou [2014-12-11 03:57:44 +0000 UTC]

I have absolutely found this. Watching books 1 and 2, it was Hair-tearing. SO. ANNOYING. But After getting a more complete view of her character trajectory, especially beginning in the end of book 2, those first two books of wangst and blindly charging at things make a lot of sense, and I'm coming to think of it as something of a master stroke by the writers- It must have felt like a pretty serious risk to take the Avatar franchise and fill it with moody stupid teenagers, but that teenageriness has provided serious base to the developments of book 3 and 4.

 Aw man it's a good show. like. wows.

Also, I like the theory element you've explained here. I'd never remotely considered that.

Also also I just found your art today and it's super awesome and amazing and hilarious and also looks pretty.

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noreenniceice In reply to Takimashou [2015-01-12 08:53:05 +0000 UTC]

Question: If it was "hair-tearing", why would you have continued to watch it?

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Takimashou In reply to noreenniceice [2015-01-16 02:55:24 +0000 UTC]

Faith And Bolin. It certainly wasn't entirely terrible, and there was enough there that I liked a lot, and between those good points, and the... momentum, I guess, of atla I did stick through it, and it was absolutely worth it. And the story. I still found the story they were telling very compelling, just the main actors in it were dumbasses.

A book series I have read as the same. it was a big thick trilogy, and at the start of the book, all the characters had these major issues with just being not complete dicks. But their characters are tempered by the events f the story, and it adds SO MUCH that you see them actually develop, not just 'gain self confidence' or whatever twaddle, but actually go from little shits to characters you LIKE.

It's a journey I guess

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yamiryuuzero [2014-12-08 03:17:40 +0000 UTC]

I have the same position as you in this matter (except that I didn't put it into paper the way you did). I do find Korra a very compelling character, and when I compare her actions from Book 1 to Book 2 I already see a bit of character development that most don't, and I never understood why they couldn't see it. Korra's not a bad character at all, and I don't see how one could say that.


But again, there are people who claim Other M Samus is a well written character, and her relationship with Adam Malkovich is beautiful... ¬¬

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Kuching-sama [2014-12-07 11:48:18 +0000 UTC]

Korra was raised from a much younger age than most avatars to be the avatar. Her whole life she knew she was supposed to be something great. Her arrogance can be expected. However, I love that every enemy she has faced so far has told her that the world is too modern for her and her whole existence is no longer required (even as the bridge) and she should just disappear. I can't wait to see how they wrap  up the show with Korra's and the assumed future avatar's roles in the changing world.

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Flamingoz [2014-12-01 10:15:58 +0000 UTC]

I think the major problem of the Ledgend of Korra is that Korra have no larger goal to full fill or ambition
other than trying to be awesome, and that her lack of a larger goal makes it that her character have
no story to bounce back to and therefore they have brought in to much *Cough* Fan service!
with having together with bad  romances bad parenting, family dramas in general.
I don't want to watch Korra see failed love, If she is going to have a boyfriend sure
make them work it is charming to see love birds that work together like Mei and Zuko
or Sokka and suki.
I rather see the team work as a team and instead of splitting up stand together have their character
bounce between each other grow and solve problems together rather than splitting up
and have awkward love triangles. >__>

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danceljoy [2014-11-30 14:39:33 +0000 UTC]

I kinda disagree with your assessment on Korra pre Book 3 although I totally understand how Books 1 and 2 can be viewed that way. Korra is a warrior who is eager at fighting, but the problems she faced in B1 and B2 are stuff that fighting can't solve. In B1, she was restricted by the authority in RC, the first episode has her getting arrested for disturbing peace. She's manipulated by Tarrlok and when she challenged Amon to a fair duel she was ambushed and terrorized. The Equalist revolution didn't end by her killing Amon, it ended because he exposed him.

Now come Book 2, Korra faced a civil war between two tribes where 1)she must remain neutral even if her father's life is in danger 2)she must fix because it's her job as an avatar 3) nobody seems to listen to her even if she's the avatar (except Gen Iroh LOL.) She wanted to save her family and bring a swift solution but she ended up making rash decisions and dumped all her frustrations on Mako. When she can't kick butt she explodes like that. That's why people hated her in Book 2, but I think its showed her a sad dimension to her character and I fell in love with her. 

The beautiful part even came in B2E10 when Korra entered the spirit world. She was shown to be a little girl afraid of everything. This showed that Korra's spiritual growth was stunted at the point where she imposed the Avatar identity upon herself. Outside she was violent and angry but deep inside that's her spirit. 

It's getting too long, but I just think a lot of people dismissed Korra's psychological response as merely "Korra smash." She's a fascinating character. At one moment she's violent and angry then shortly after she's apologetic and bear no grudge. 

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Neodusk In reply to danceljoy [2014-11-30 20:23:24 +0000 UTC]

Right, I didn't really mean to say that the problems were always necessarily solvable by fighting, but they were often presented to Korra in such a way that they seemed like they could be. This comic is more about how things appeared (both to the characters and to the audience) than what they actually were. Book 2 actually was the beginning of seeing Korra's character development really kick into gear, but I think Book 3 is where we really started to get the full force of that development, and I think some of the things I  discuss here are partly responsible for that. I am not in any way talking about how Korra is an underdeveloped or uninteresting character. I'm only talking about how those aspects of her character were presented and brought out to their full potential by the situations in which she was placed.

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danceljoy In reply to Neodusk [2014-12-01 14:28:26 +0000 UTC]

I get what you meant but I'm just frustrated that a lot of people bash Korra and characterize her as a muscle brained character in B1 and B2, which is a caricature of her. Then comes Book 3 and they were complaining "Why did she suddenly change? Her development is forced!" (and seriously there are people saying she didn't develop at all!) Then there are people saying Aang could have handled problems in B1:Air  and B2:Spirits better, but that is similar to saying Korra could have handle Firelord Ozai better. Avatars face problems incompatible to their personalities because you need a story

Actually its good that you viewed her very positively in Book 3, a lot of people were criticizing her for "not kicking ass" enough. 

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Tsumerai-Kyon In reply to danceljoy [2014-12-06 03:49:21 +0000 UTC]

I agree with both sides, although I actually considered Korra pretty weak, she was beaten down almost episode, she studied bending for about 13 years and didn't know anything about metal or thunder, I could argue that it was even weird for katara not to develop a counter against bloodbend after all that happen but this one might be a little too much. My real issue with Korra series was development not shown.

By episode 2 we saw how Korra was already getting all the instances of airbending, she never put it into practice except for this very episode, which is odd, considering how many equalists would struggle to catch her fighting that way. She didn't airbend which was, to be fair, a little unnecessary, she could get better at it over the season and when fighting Amon, avatar states pops up after she loses her bending. The series focused on her trying to develop a connection with her past lives, and to us, it is about legacy, finding out what happened, but as better stated here it is just used as a plot device, the Avatar state itself got severely nerfed (although to be fair, when Aang tried for the first time to control it by itself, he almost died because he didn't act like when "possessed" attacking everyone at once)

In season 2, Korra was supposed to get over this but she clearly didn't, she uses air as just another form of firebending (just look at her first fight with Kuvira, if she at least used it as an area attack, she would've won no matter how bad she was), it was like the writers didn't know what to do with her and had to go back a little bit, which was really weird. When I first saw the airbending race, I thought she would persuade Tenzin saying that through the Avatar State, Aang could manifest himself and be with his grandchildren, that would be a joke, of course, but when they really started to push no one understanding her, I honestly thought she would seek wisdom inside her for herself, this would make the impact of her past lives much more harsher.

Still thinking about insight, I thought Yue would show up, not because my fanboyism wishful thinking, but because it was perfect for the series: Yue is family, so is the antagonist of the season, Vaatu always talks about destroying Raava FOREVER (as you know, can't happen), and the moon and the sea are the best way to illustrate that, the poles and the portals are also a good way to see it, I thought she would be the one to guide her to the deepest part of her memory, Wan, and the role of the avatar in such situation, not a Random spirit that shouldn't last two seconds with the avatar state blowing it up from the inside. The final message of Korra in season one would've been more stronger and meaningful.

Season three is perfect, well, almost anyway, Zaheer is a villain that I really love, and I like to discuss his philosophy in youtube comments, we've came to some good conclusions, but while I agree with what Dusk said about what we've saw on Korra, my only complaint was responsibility. The end of Book 2 shows Korra taking her own decisions, she understands that the villain might not be totally wrong (all 4 of them are just extremists), and she decides to listen, I thought that would be the case with the Earth Queen, what will the Avatar do to her? Is Zaheer really right? That would be the conflict, but there we go again, happened what I feared, Zaheer did the dirty job. Of course by the end of the season I was like "Well, fuck that!" but still something to think about.

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danceljoy In reply to Tsumerai-Kyon [2014-12-06 10:32:40 +0000 UTC]

Lots of double standard there

1. Aang had been bending for like 50 years but he never learned metalbending or never indicated to know lightning
2. Yes Korra got some airbending dodge moves but she was held down by like 30 Equalists in an ambush. Aang was never even shown to defeat Ty Lee but Korra faced 30 those for the first time in her life and she gets flak.
3. Avatar State in Book 2 never got opportunities because Korra was fighting dark spirits, something Aang never fought in his time. You can't compare them.
4. When Korra used the Avatar State in the Book 2 Finale she singlehandedly defeated Vaatu

But I agree, Korra could have been better written but she's never weak. I have an analysis of her character development in Books 1 and 2 but I'm too lazy to type it here. It's in my tumblr: danseru-kun.tumblr.com

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Tsumerai-Kyon In reply to danceljoy [2014-12-06 18:10:01 +0000 UTC]

1. If I remember well, Aang did not even try metalbending because he thought earthbending was already hard. And yes, it doesn't mean you need to, but when you consider how popular those bendings got, makes you wonder why nobody ever tried to taught her. Now thinking about it, it would've been cool to see Korra struggling to make thunder again.

2. It would still help.

3. Of course I can, bending gets a lot more powerful, anything Korra did in there didn't look that much to me. Also, shouldn't the Avatar State give Korra more knowledge of what she is fighting for? I mean, Aang didn't fight dark spirits but the avatar as a whole sure did.

4. Yes, which makes the Avatar state in the beginning make even less sense.

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danceljoy In reply to Tsumerai-Kyon [2014-12-07 15:55:18 +0000 UTC]

1. It still doesn't change the fact that Aang had opportunity to learn and he didn't. What we know is that Korra's upbringing was very traditional. Maybe they want to teach her all the classic styles (hence pro-bending was entirely new to her and Tenzin didn't approve of it.) Zuko was never taught lightning for a long time even if he had access to teachers.

2. It won't save her or make her win against 30 Ty Lees. You gave her an unnecessarily high expectation. Aang failed to escape the archers in the Blue Spirit episodes. Yes he was a master airbender yet still got captured. 

3. Dark spirits never appeared since the last HC as far as we know. In the Rift comics its confirmed that Avatars need to connect to older ones through a link. Korra needs to connect to 200+ Avatars before getting to Wan, Aang never tried to connect past Yangchen. Speaking of Wan, how many dark spirits did he defeat apart from Vaatu?

4. I didn't get what you meant. 

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Tsumerai-Kyon In reply to danceljoy [2014-12-07 18:01:02 +0000 UTC]

1. It is hard to say, I mean, Korra's way of fighting is pretty pro-bending like even before she knew what it is. Btw, there is a theory that lighting was taught just in the last 13 years, so Ming Hua wouldn't expect Mako to use it.

2. Are you sure it wouldn't? Perhaps movement itself wouldn't (but for around 2 or 3 equalists, like in episode 3, it surely would), but one advantage of the Avatar is use another bending's instance into a different one, if Korra used it with fire then perhaps she would be stronger, but then again, she kind of just used an area air attack once in 4 seasons... Why can't people use Dig like Roku did? It solves so many problems.

3. If I remember well, he in the Avatar state was holding an army, didn't end well. But in the Avatar state, there is still a little bit of them all to me. Also, that is why I think the whole wisdom thing would be much important if Korra seek for it.

4. I said that she easily defeated Vaatu before he united with a human, which makes it even less sense why she wasn't powerful enough in the beginning of the season.

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danceljoy In reply to Tsumerai-Kyon [2014-12-08 12:21:38 +0000 UTC]

This discussion is getting out of topic considering character development is what the comic was saying.

1. Bolin had to correct Korra's stance the first time she trained for probending. Korra's first probending sessions were a mess. She uses power but the sport is speed.

2. Are you sure it would? I just replayed ATLA and Aang, Toph and Sokka were having a hard time defeating TWO Dai Li agents in DOBS. It's true that Avatars could have used creative methods to win but battles have many factors like visibility (Korra was in the dark when she was ambushed) and the opponents's strategy. The fact Korra hasn't been chi-blocked after her first encounters prove the theory that chi-blocking is only troublesome at first. Suki was able to go toe-toe with Ty Lee in BR after training in prison. 

3. Contacting past Avatars is not easy. Roku had conditions like the eclipse and going to his island and Kyoshi through her old clothes. The fact that it wasn't Korra's speciality even makes it harder, but even Aang himself had a hard time and was only able to do it after years of practice (the comics.) The only past Avatar who knows about Raava is Kuruk, and its implied he was killed in the Spirit World in his 30's. Yes the AS gives you access to pass Avatar skills but talking to them is a different matter. 

4. Because by that time she had experience fighting dark spirits and of course, saw how Wan defeated Vaatu. And it wasn't able obliterating him, it's about imprisoning him again. I doubt Vaatu is the most powerful out there in terms of raw power, his real power is corruption. Dark Spirits are also different from each other, the ones who attacked their snowmobiles are small and weak and the one who attacked Korra at sea was very big. 

To the comic writer, sorry for derailing the comments. I will say no more. 

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Tsumerai-Kyon In reply to danceljoy [2014-12-14 16:33:44 +0000 UTC]

1. Yeah, rewatching I guess you're right, but it is just weird to me how her bending got so different later on.

2. I don't understand some of the initials. Yes but we can't consider the Dai Li much, later on Toph has not much difficult with them. And again, No digging! It seems like the best thing to do most of the time in fights you need to finish it quickly!

3. Kuruk knew about Raava? Never heard about that. Again, yeah, it ain't easy, but in the avatar state you have a little bit of all of them, one might wonder if the best suited to handle it wouldn't be able to do the job or heck. And she is possessed by the light spirit that probably fought those things since the dawn of time.

4. You're right about the corruption but... The sphere with the 4 elements seems to be a standard for avatars in some epic situation, I mean, Aang did it, and he didn't need to connect with 200+ Avatars to do that, then.

Why are you're sorry? It is just raising her numbers.

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Louis-Cipher [2014-11-29 22:36:22 +0000 UTC]

I'll grant you those points were well made but what made book three tolerable to me was that they dropped the romantic subplots. AtLA had romantic subplots but they were all believable and mostly in the background. LoK's romantic subplots, while possibly believable (teenagers are dumb) were uninteresting, intruded on the plot in unappealing ways. felt like they were stuck into the show to add drama rather than to give a nice happy ending to people like they were in AtLA. There's no reason for romance to be a big feature of either story but at least in AtLA I felt like it was an uplifting fun thing rather than a depressing bit of trite garbage. 

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Rodlox [2014-11-28 22:32:38 +0000 UTC]

excellent points!

(apologies - my favorite line was "must...not...kill")

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Gender-Ninja [2014-11-20 20:22:43 +0000 UTC]

Really good insight imo. I feel like the "opposing force" that they gave Korra in season 1 and 2 were more drama-relationship based which rubbed people (myself included) the wrong way. It felt less about AVATAR and more just angsty teenage love-triangle-tangles.  I'm really happy with the direction book 4 is going. I'm hoping that Bolin gets a chance to develop more too since he's been kind of placed on hold as the "gag" character.

You actually helped me with my own series I've been stuck in editing/re-writing because something changed and I couldn't figure out what was wrong--it's basically the same things you mentioned. So, awesome job and thanks for indirectly helping me

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IBGalaxy [2014-11-17 22:56:30 +0000 UTC]

I always thought Korra was interesting because of her personality. Sure it can be overly dramatic here and there, but the point you made about book 3 is what really got me to love her. All the points you made here are great!

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