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Published: 2011-09-11 16:34:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 417; Favourites: 15; Downloads: 13
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Description Today is an emotional day for me. This is the first year that I haven't gone home to NYC for this day and i'm feeling a bit guilty. I couldn't sleep last night, so this is what came out.
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nevs89 In reply to ??? [2011-12-10 09:38:01 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I like working with one shade and playing with the light. It's fun.

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buckoe1 [2011-11-14 04:12:04 +0000 UTC]

I do like how thick and jolted the lines are..just something about to two thick blotches just sort of seeming to hover over the chaos, away from where the point is down at the bottom right. It creates in interesting intensity, like something is out of your control or drifting away.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-14 14:46:57 +0000 UTC]

Well, damn... that was insanely insightful.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-14 15:20:50 +0000 UTC]

hehe *^_^*...sorry I tend to go over the top letting myself get into something and my nerves build up. I feel like it's what people would appreciate but in the moment I forget when to stop lol *-_-*

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-14 15:46:33 +0000 UTC]

No, that's quite alright. It was fairly accurate.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-14 15:56:07 +0000 UTC]

lol ok *^_^*..to keep from doing this, I need to do more of my own art some of it makes me uncomfortable. That's why I think so hard on this side I guess, if I would open up more *-_-*.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-14 20:29:02 +0000 UTC]

That's why I like abstracts so much. Even if someone is spot on with their guess of the meaning, the artist can turn around and say "No, actually, I was thinking about puppies"

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-15 01:49:54 +0000 UTC]

I can see that ^_^, that's what I like about surrealism as well. The answer isn't what is important it's the emotion. That's the thing, I would almost call my drawings, from my standpoint, hyper real just because they are really straight forward but for me it's so much so that becomes extreme to me as to where others just don't see it lol *^_^*. I guess that's why I do it, an underlying sense of unsettling nature.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-15 20:36:05 +0000 UTC]

I'm never sure if the emotions behind my work is clear or not, occasionally someone will point it out, but I often get comments from people locally such as "well, that's cute" or "isn't that pretty." Which confuse me.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-15 21:46:37 +0000 UTC]

haha, I think that's more a product of deviant art than your art. This place is such an open community yet it wants to promote itself as high class, it just really conflicts with itself. Sometimes groups help filter out those passive comments but not usually. I think the best way to go about it here is no that you are getting exposure but you have to watch out for the downloads and whatnot :/.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-16 15:08:35 +0000 UTC]

What's up with the downloads? I have one piece that has upwards of 20 downloads, but zero print purchases.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-16 15:30:41 +0000 UTC]

That's the thing. It's best to put tags on them so they can't literally download them. But, the honest answer is they probably download them to get the full size picture, and then if they really want it, click it and save it :/. I was putting tags on some of my pictures at one point but it's kind of a catch 22 to me because I want people to see my stuff but, to me it really disrupts the flow of what you are seeing, but I don't want to pictures to actually be stolen either XP. I hate thinking about.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-16 17:06:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that's my main reason as well. I don't want to ruin the visual effect, but like you I don't want my art stolen.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-16 20:26:22 +0000 UTC]

It is really confusing says it *-_-*. Through all this, I've wanted to start being seen but i've also become less materialistic. I'm very confused at how to approach the whole thing.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-16 21:24:47 +0000 UTC]

You could always hide under a large rock. ^ ^

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-16 21:29:09 +0000 UTC]

haha nah, it's not like that, I'm more talking about the art not about me hiding myself. Sometimes I do feel that way some days though :3, but I don't think I will ever resort to that ^_^.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-16 21:35:24 +0000 UTC]

(: Only joking. There aren't many rocks around here that are large enough for that, but I must confess on many days the prospects of staying in my bed with the door to my room locked sounds pretty damn good.
Do you meditate? Or would you consider starting? I know a few people who find this helpful to be able to start an artistic project without judging themselves and just going at it.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-17 00:52:42 +0000 UTC]

oh I'm sure if you were intrigued to go that route you could explore and find one that inspired you to try X3...but it wouldn't feel all that great. But I agree, some days are just better left untouched, but they lead to some of the best inspiration it seems in one way or another.
I try to meditate, because the idea seems helpful to how I function lol. My mind races so much, that when I try to do it, it feels great but I can feel the intensity ramp up immediately. It is hard to shut down. I get kind of itchy/edgy and emotional when I really try to go through with it for a good extended period. I feel like we are in a time that a lot of people could really benefit from something like this though, so ADD and everything. A lot of artists I like promote the kind of thinking. David Lynch, Steven Wilson, Tool etc.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-19 21:06:36 +0000 UTC]

I will set out on a journey to find a large rock at once! See you in a few months (:
I had that trouble with meditation and mindfulness practice when I first started, but I found that the more I did it, the less overwhelmed I became afterwards.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-19 21:11:48 +0000 UTC]

haha, no, you don't need a large rock you just need your art, it's so free wonderfully inspiring.

Well, that settles it then, I guess I just need to get back in to a solid routine again, I seriously just lost the practice, and routine. Got lazy :/. I really liked it though, it overwhelmed me, in a helpful way it seemed. That's was part of the problem almost :3.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-19 21:43:29 +0000 UTC]

Routines usually work best.
I took a DBT class a few moths ago and meditation and mindfulness was a big part of it. It's done wonders for my creative process as well as general concentration.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-19 22:39:25 +0000 UTC]

haha

Very nice, and I see so you do it regularly then :3? I really want to do it, I just would have to do it late or at strange times...make time lol to fit it in this situation here XP that's what I don't like, but that is part of it to huh X3. I can really see it helping it clear your mind and help you be more free spirited with your creativity. I'm trying to get there...I was hoping my drawing was sort of meditative...but it was only part of the equation lol *^_^*. As big as it actually felt.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-21 14:56:20 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I do it out of necessity. My life is a bit hectic. I have 2 jobs (both part-time), I go to school full-time, I have become my brother's care taker since I live the closet to him, and I live with 3 insane bitches while attempting to maintain my own sanity. If I didn't meditate regularly, my head would explode.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-21 16:24:06 +0000 UTC]

I see, very commendable. It looks like part time work is what I am going to be doing as well, if I can even get the calls for them XP. I'm just sick of job hunting, all together, I would just go back to my first job ever and wash dishes if it would help pay for my needs. I just want to be productive again so I can free my mind for art, and not think about applications.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-21 16:30:45 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry, this may sound mean, although that's not my intention, but if you're an artist, and I think you are, you will never be able to free yourself from it. Artists can never escape being and thinking creatively. But having something else to focus on is nice, sometimes. Best of luck with the job search.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-21 16:38:56 +0000 UTC]

No, I don't think it's mean ...I need the hard truth it's healthy. I just think I'm finally discovering it has I'm letting go of that conservative feeling. It just took until recently to finally get some of that out. If I had to put it in the most basic, corny statement...I think maybe I'm just now starting to be truly honest and going to start my most potent work. All my past stuff always tasted it but it just took a certain something to conquer a fear and put myself out there and now there is no turning back anyway, something like that. >:]

And thanks for the luck.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-21 16:50:01 +0000 UTC]

Exactly, no turning back. I think that each piece an artist does, each break into a new idea, no matter if they like it or not is an improvement and better than their last.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-21 17:00:17 +0000 UTC]

I like that idea ^_^ because once you've released it you have already done it, don't do it again, learn from it and try a new angle on the idea. Keep expanding and learning. That is like what you are chewing me out for and what I'm afraid to say...vulnerability is scary but it feels amazing. I'm at a point I don't know how to carry it, or maybe not know what to do with it :3.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-21 17:05:02 +0000 UTC]

I'd have to agree with that. It kind of like jumping into a new situation. You feel anxious about what will come of it, but excited at the same time. I don't know about you, but i'm one of those people that agonizes over things with pros and cons, but I eventually go for it. It's kind of what I imagine bungee jumping is like.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-21 17:22:08 +0000 UTC]

I like that, yeah I would be like that and that's what led to this. I would love to do one of those things lol maybe more like sky diving. You are really tempting me to talk about what I don't want to talk about *^_^* -_-. It's like a direct metaphor for the drawings I just did for the snake charming characters. I didn't even finish the background on it because someone just had to push me and I had to trust the rope :3 and realize how good the freedom felt. The racing heart and knowing you can do it. From there and the others the adrenaline didn't stop but you knew people where there you were going to do it again but you trusted the rope slightly more this time but you still question it and it's still very new and vulnerable/questionable so you do it similar but eventually the adrenaline catches up and you just have to move on and come back and realize your progress...and least that's where it goes for me...I want to do more or take a new direction but it consumed me completely with those few I did it was very new but almost cleansing...I had never felt it so strong before.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-21 20:34:03 +0000 UTC]

Darn, that pretty much describes the last 6 years of my life. It also makes me really want to go skydiving.
Really though, you did give the perfect metaphor for the creative process. It's a series of "incredible highs followed by unbearable lows followed by incredible lows followed by unbearable highs." That's art and tapping into your personal creative need.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-21 20:44:23 +0000 UTC]

lol I don't want to do bungee jumping so much, just to little holding you in, I can't convince myself enough *^_^*, but I REALLY want to skydive, you should do it :3. You communicate really well *-_-* and I like the bluntness lol and that's going to be the key thing here. I'm hiding from it -_-, I have been for a long time spirals comfort me, if I really let myself get into true creative form, expect more snakes in the outset. but not like you see in the front of deviant art, there is more underneath, it's been growing for a long time, but I have to get the confidence :3 *^_^*.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-21 20:56:06 +0000 UTC]

I think I like the risk in bungee jumping, well the idea of it. I haven't actually gone either bungee jumping or sky diving. Also bungee jumping is cheaper. I think having something, no matter how small or flimsy,holding me in, makes me feel safer. Kind of like a security blanket. If something happens in the middle of the night, that blanket is going to do very very little good, but that doesn't mean i'm going to stop gripping the damn piece of fabric.(:
Thanks, by the way. Blunt is the only way I know how to be. I think it off-puts a lot of people, but it's a fixed point in my personality, no changing it ever.
I wish I could give some pointers on confidance, but I can't. I don't really have much of it myself. I suppose it's something that comes with finding personal acceptance of your work.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-21 21:10:44 +0000 UTC]

You just made a very strong point, and I think it's beautiful. Maybe it's just not that area that gets me. I mean I do want to skydive some day....maybe I just haven't reached the peak where bungee jumping does it for me yet :3. because things like rock climbing and all that are amazing experiences to me. It's all a risk it just depends how far you want to go . So here it goes :3...that's what has always intrigued me about snakes and rope and the whole idea. That is my area of intrigue and risk. The concept all around, handling/vulnerability/confidence/metaphorical/situational/etc I can't think of another word...there is such a level of freedom and fantasy within all that I'm going to be working hard to gain the solid ground to connect with as it's not so much the snake I identify with its the person and how it's handled and the vision of strength and confidence. I adore and empathize with the idea behind the bliss and communication between the snake and the girl in the pictures I drew and the specific set ups. I am terrible at what I am actually trying to say lol *^_^* -_- but I feel like this conversation asked for it, but as blunt as it gets, or as surreal or abstract as it gets, I think that's going to be the root of communication and other messages to come for a while until its let go...*-_-*

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-21 21:19:25 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I think you communicated your point quite well. I understood it, at least. (:
I've always found snakes fascinating, but never frightening. But I think the thing of tangling with something wild and potentially dangerous, something that could cause one harm, but facing as a casual force is very intriguing in your drawings.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-21 21:44:24 +0000 UTC]

The way you said that means a lot . I appreciate it, the whole thing really :3. I can take it back to the bungee jumping relating it to snakes and facing something harmful. What I mean is I am not really interested in just all around harmful animals or bugs... scorpions,spiders etc. just something about snakes and their temperament I find a dark sense of elegance in...and octopus just as a simple offshoot as I actually kind of fear deep water *^_^*.
I'm glad it comes through though, it means a lot because it also has a lot to do with the girl the snake is involved with, but it is meant to be universal but I figured a lot of people knew who the chipette's where :/ :3. Jeanette being clumsy but strong willed and dragged into the situation makes it such a perfect set up for this message especially for the key to letting go...and the underlying vulnerability of, I don't know...<3 -_-shoulders ->biceps->(arms)*-_-* but just remaining calm she ends up strong and less materialist, I don't know lol X3.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-21 23:02:39 +0000 UTC]

There are lot of interesting stories and pieces of art surrounding snakes. They have a mysterious presence about them. In many stories they are sources of evil, but I think a lot of symbolism lays in them and I was struck by your pieces when I saw them, although I didn't understand the use of the chipette until now.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-21 23:33:57 +0000 UTC]

I think snakes have mostly been misrepresented and abused in a lot of things. They can be very knowledgeable and mysterious personalities outside of just being evil I think. The word I want to use is Earthly. If they get angry, things happen, if you play well, things are great, you just have to go with the tide on their temperament. I've always seen being wrapped up as a very intimate process as far as I can remember *-_-*...and, well, while I know that is still and always will be fantasy talking ...I want that displayed. At least to that sort of degree, whether I said it well or not, I want to that and anything related displayed respectfully...I guess until I can comfortable laugh at myself *^_^*.
I'm glad my pictures stood out to you among the thousands of others, that really means a lot :3 Any stand out specifically? just curious. You don't have to answer, but it would be something to talk about :/. Jeanette is a muse basically that sort spawned this whole thing. The strong will power that ultimately conceals her vulnerability is what defines the moment with the snake, and why it just all works.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-21 23:56:13 +0000 UTC]

[link] this is the one that stands out the most, I couldn't remember the name off the top of my head, though, so I went to your gallery to find it. I think it's the look on her face that is the most striking. It's more perplexed than fearful. I found that interesting even though I am not afraid of snakes in the least, if a giant one wrapped me up, i'd be at least a little panicky. I know that's not really the point, but that is what really got my attention.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-22 00:35:12 +0000 UTC]

I'm really glad you like that one :3...I was really trying to throw all the different ideas into one thing with that one because it's one of the spots that meant a lot to me next to Composure, which is why I had trouble finishing it and did it first.

You're explanation really means a lot too because I feel like my method for this was really taking some shape *-_-*. A lot happens in a very short amount of time with this moment for her, that packed a lot of expression into it which is partly why I love it, and partly why I hate it lol and wanted to tackle this. She is perplexed at this second and that's why I love it. Before this was Bliss and before that was scared to even be there :3. It's between her and the snake here and at this moment she is realizing where she is again with her arms being pinned and eyes sort of hazed. If you see composer that is pretty much right after this one :3. Basically all these pictures come from the same moment but I wanted to capture the different context :3.
I really wanted to use colors that focus on the moment of her expression and everything rather than what I was actually seeing but being so new to it I didn't stray to much on these...I really want to work on these again more personally.
Another thing I love about this, though is that the snake isn't trying to harm her, but like you say, she would never be able to know that *-_-*. I think the rising tension of the arms is a beautiful thing on the side as well *-_-* but beside the point :/.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-22 02:58:10 +0000 UTC]

You definitely did do an amazing job with the colour scheme. That was another thing that drew me to the drawings. they're happy sort of colours, but they bring on a new sense on feeling in the drawings with the actions. I also really like your technique, different drawings to show a different moment of the same figure, kind of like freeze frames.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-22 04:21:35 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, ultimately I wanted to bring out a good sense of light in these and learn that concept. That's what was going on in the one you like lol, it's all kind of backwards and experimental. Messing with light in photography is one thing but trying to think of it in my head messes me up lol I've never been good with that geometry visualization thing lol :3.
You are really good at reading it *^_^* I really like it. These are really all about the confidence, expression and vulnerability all at once in more way than one :3. I just consider the the two where she is being wrapped up her opus because she was finally in her own world but her attention is being intensely teased and she has kind of goes into awe...and then the two where she is dealing with the situation she is trying to figure out what's going on while being in an extremely vulnerable situation that she just sort of has to try and feel out and go along with. I like the snakes AND her to feel aware or smart too, not mean or pervy. I don't know if it worked lol but that's what I want to get to like if she is erratic and can't extreme it will squeeze but if she can control herself it will be elated and ending things in her favor.
But, while that whole part is the most personal to deal with, it wouldn't come together right if there wasn't Senses of Reality. Maybe there isn't enough information but I like what's going on here after everything is all said and done. Since the other two girls are pre-occupied be she is essentially trying to save the moment after all things considered *-_-*.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-22 04:28:36 +0000 UTC]

I really enjoy and admire the amount of thought you put into your drawings. It's very interesting.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-22 04:31:44 +0000 UTC]

thanks, I feel the same way about you...I can quit doing this, I just appreciate it
*-_-*, you seem like you really saw something in it. It's a good talk for things to come to -_-...:3.

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-22 04:39:20 +0000 UTC]

I did see and feel what was behind the drawings, although some of it needed a little explanation from you before I understood it fully.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-22 04:49:35 +0000 UTC]

haha I see, and it makes sense :3. I was just so into doing the main four that I finally get into wanting to get into doing others but didn't think about the connection so much just trying to get away from her constriction situation...thinking to much about what people are thinking instead of my thought process *-_-* :3. I think I need to go back and do more now *^_^* to sort of get back into practice and get used to expressions and movement and things like that :/...although I want to stay abstract...this is more deep seeded.
Any others that are confusing?

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-22 04:56:02 +0000 UTC]

No, I didn't find any of the others confusing. The only thing that threw me off was the chipmunk, but I get it now.
Have you just let yourself explode onto a pive of paper? Scribbling can be a good start for it, I know it sounds silly, but it can also be fun and you can make it creative also going at a canvas or a large piece of paper Pollack style is incredibly releasing. Just letting things drip and fall wherever they happen to fall.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-22 04:59:13 +0000 UTC]

No I haven't really tried that one, I should it seems like it would be fun. I just didn't think about the kind of take it would get. Just always thought about to many other things...as it probably seems now X3 *^_^*

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nevs89 In reply to buckoe1 [2011-11-22 05:05:00 +0000 UTC]

It is fun and you may find yourself getting deep and personal without realizing it.

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buckoe1 In reply to nevs89 [2011-11-22 05:12:37 +0000 UTC]

So you recommend using paint for this or does it really matter? Just wondering your opinion .

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