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You thought the NECA Style FvJ script description designs were done? I don't think so! Yes, back again to bring you the next designs based on what Freddy and Jason could've looked like in Freddy vs. Jason. And this time, it's 1998's Rob Bottin. Back in 1997, famous makeup artist from the 80s and 90s who did many great films like Robocop, The Howling, Legend, Se7en, Total Recall, and especially John Carpenter's The Thing, Rob Bottin was hired to direct and he pitched his own idea for the plot which would've been HUGELY inspired by the success of Scream and the scripts that were rewrites on his version reflected on that. Especially with It's sense of humor and witty dialogue and the movie was supposed to be released in 1998 but had to be delayed many times with the scripts Rob Bottin wasn't satisfied with. In 1997, David S. Goyer and James Robinson made their first version, in 1998 Johnathan Aible and Glenn Berger added more comedy to it but everyone really hated, and in 1999 with Mark Verheiden which is the most faithful to the original movies and took the meta tone out and made it a sequel to JGTH.

But the one we're looking at is the 1998 version and the reason why it took me so long to make this version is because I absolutely hated the script. Probably the worst out of all of them. The characters were absolutely boring and annoying AF, Freddy was hardly in it and he has NO KILLS, and is instead replaced with a Freddy wannabe that he sent to go after the final girl, Jason roars (all the time) and talks at the end, ("Freddy's Dead!!!!") and the meta humor was cringy since they missed the point of what made Scream work to begin with. HOWEVER! They're still positives like the final girl wasn't the worst but she's just bland at best, the kills by Jason (while not much) were still good and the practical effects would've been the best of the series considering who would direct and do the effects. And the biggest praise of the script is the character redesigns. Which could've been the best looking Freddy and Jason that maybe could've outdone Freddy Krueger from Part 2 and Jason Voorhees from Part 7.

Freddy's described to look much more nightmarishly menacing than ever but than ever before, his sweater especially. "but ancient tatters, barely covering an inhumanly cadaverous form. Twisted burn-scar flesh is stretched tight over misshapen sinew and gnarled, elongated bone."

In English, it basically described him to look like a Part 2 Freddy with his bony body that is pale and like if a zombie had anorexia. And his sweater would be torn and shredded in old tears.

Jason is described to be a massive Kane Hodder size of 300 pounds, and exposed in rotten flesh, with his new heart that resurrected him to be glowing red and exposed in his ribcage. His hockey mask is melted onto his deformed skull (a la Jason Goes to Hell) and his hockey mask would have the paint washed out for being underwater for so long, causing the mask to look semi-translucent, which gives a glimpse of what's behind it. Later on, one of the teens believes Jason is just another hallucination since in the script, it was established Freddy and Jason are just fictional movie characters, and the teen grabs his mask to see if it's fake and it reveals his face, which sounds BETTER than Part 7's…

"Everyone SCREAMS, forced to witness the gigantic malformed head housing the severely retarded and extremely tormented lake-drenched brain of the machete wielding maniac. A writhing mass of worms, leeches, and snakes slithers and squirms in and out of his head.

Jason's face contorts, squeezing out a knot of white worms, as he bellows forth a HELLISH ROAR!"

(Me smiles wide and nodes, proudly.) I'll let that image sink into your nightmares 😊…

But later in, at the ending when the final girl manages to control Jason since he has her boyfriend's heart (who's also named Jason because "Ha! Ha! Clever meta writing!") and demands they can both fade Freddy together. She manages to control her dreams and Jason roars and grows into "Nightmare Rage Jason" where he grows to a huge Hulk size. His outfit is ripping, his skin stretches and his veins pop and explode. So I basically took a zombie hulk figure and Jasoned-him-up. He has to face off against an anorexic Freddy Krueger. This should be easy. But Freddy somehow manages to outbeat him in reality when he puts his hand around his heart that brought him to life and his fear causes him to shrink back to size and he successfully tears it out just before the final girl tosses the machete towards him. But he still lives through the power of the final girl's love to live, (which is so fucking crap) and he stabs Freddy's chest and lifts him up before he speaks "Freddy's Dead!!!" And the lightning causes the two to fall in the lake as he's dying. And it ends. No cliffhanger, no set up, no revealing if it was all just a dream like the 1997 script, nothing. I guess Freddy won the battle.

Regardless, this script was hated by everyone that Rob Bottin essentially disappeared by 1998 in Hollywood. And I'm being serious, that he just vanished out of Hollywood and is barely heard from again. Maybe it was a personal drama, maybe he didn't want to do effects anymore, maybe the FvJ scripts made him realize his dreams of directing weren't gonna work out the way he wanted. He absolutely hated the new script as well. Sean S. Cunningham hated it so much, he lost faith in reading another Freddy vs. Jason script. Effects artist, Jim Issac pushed him to make a new Friday the 13th movie around this time instead which became Jason X and he agreed to sign up on it. (Yup, this script was SO AWFUL, Jason in space was produced.) Good God! But New Line didn't want that to happen. The Mark Verheiden draft in 1999 when Jason X was first written was a very faithful representation of the prior movies and followed the original movies instead of a New Nightmare/Scream approach. Took out the Freddy copycat and made Freddy do the plotting and killings and had a climax set in a burning barn like F13 Part 3 and 5. The writer absolutely loved the F13 films, especially Part 4 and Part 6 and wanted a tone similar to the two and felt Part 7 Jason was the best. And if Jason X didn't work out, then they would've worked on this script instead. Possibly with the same cast and crew perhaps. Who knows. But Cunningham was the one who wanted Freddy vs. Jason to get made to begin with and it was his company making Jason X but New Line wanted FvJ to get made first and they still didn't want to lose the fight. And in the millennium of 2000, a new draft was made to match Jason in space. See you next time…

Description
Miss me?
You thought the NECA Style FvJ script description designs were done? I don't think so! Yes, back again to bring you the next designs based on what Freddy and Jason could've looked like in Freddy vs. Jason. And this time, it's 1998's Rob Bottin. Back in 1997, famous makeup artist from the 80s and 90s who did many great films like Robocop, The Howling, Legend, Se7en, Total Recall, and especially John Carpenter's The Thing, Rob Bottin was hired to direct and he pitched his own idea for the plot which would've been HUGELY inspired by the success of Scream and the scripts that were rewrites on his version reflected on that. Especially with It's sense of humor and witty dialogue and the movie was supposed to be released in 1998 but had to be delayed many times with the scripts Rob Bottin wasn't satisfied with. In 1997, David S. Goyer and James Robinson made their first version, in 1998 Johnathan Aible and Glenn Berger added more comedy to it but everyone really hated, and in 1999 with Mark Verheiden which is the most faithful to the original movies and took the meta tone out and made it a sequel to JGTH.

But the one we're looking at is the 1998 version and the reason why it took me so long to make this version is because I absolutely hated the script. Probably the worst out of all of them. The characters were absolutely boring and annoying AF, Freddy was hardly in it and he has NO KILLS, and is instead replaced with a Freddy wannabe that he sent to go after the final girl, Jason roars (all the time) and talks at the end, ("Freddy's Dead!!!!") and the meta humor was cringy since they missed the point of what made Scream work to begin with. HOWEVER! They're still positives like the final girl wasn't the worst but she's just bland at best, the kills by Jason (while not much) were still good and the practical effects would've been the best of the series considering who would direct and do the effects. And the biggest praise of the script is the character redesigns. Which could've been the best looking Freddy and Jason that maybe could've outdone Freddy Krueger from Part 2 and Jason Voorhees from Part 7.

Freddy's described to look much more nightmarishly menacing than ever but than ever before, his sweater especially. "but ancient tatters, barely covering an inhumanly cadaverous form. Twisted burn-scar flesh is stretched tight over misshapen sinew and gnarled, elongated bone."

In English, it basically described him to look like a Part 2 Freddy with his bony body that is pale and like if a zombie had anorexia. And his sweater would be torn and shredded in old tears.

Jason is described to be a massive Kane Hodder size of 300 pounds, and exposed in rotten flesh, with his new heart that resurrected him to be glowing red and exposed in his ribcage. His hockey mask is melted onto his deformed skull (a la Jason Goes to Hell) and his hockey mask would have the paint washed out for being underwater for so long, causing the mask to look semi-translucent, which gives a glimpse of what's behind it. Later on, one of the teens believes Jason is just another hallucination since in the script, it was established Freddy and Jason are just fictional movie characters, and the teen grabs his mask to see if it's fake and it reveals his face, which sounds BETTER than Part 7's…

"Everyone SCREAMS, forced to witness the gigantic malformed head housing the severely retarded and extremely tormented lake-drenched brain of the machete wielding maniac. A writhing mass of worms, leeches, and snakes slithers and squirms in and out of his head.

Jason's face contorts, squeezing out a knot of white worms, as he bellows forth a HELLISH ROAR!"

(Me smiles wide and nodes, proudly.) I'll let that image sink into your nightmares 😊…

But later in, at the ending when the final girl manages to control Jason since he has her boyfriend's heart (who's also named Jason because "Ha! Ha! Clever meta writing!") and demands they can both fade Freddy together. She manages to control her dreams and Jason roars and grows into "Nightmare Rage Jason" where he grows to a huge Hulk size. His outfit is ripping, his skin stretches and his veins pop and explode. So I basically took a zombie hulk figure and Jasoned-him-up. He has to face off against an anorexic Freddy Krueger. This should be easy. But Freddy somehow manages to outbeat him in reality when he puts his hand around his heart that brought him to life and his fear causes him to shrink back to size and he successfully tears it out just before the final girl tosses the machete towards him. But he still lives through the power of the final girl's love to live, (which is so fucking crap) and he stabs Freddy's chest and lifts him up before he speaks "Freddy's Dead!!!" And the lightning causes the two to fall in the lake as he's dying. And it ends. No cliffhanger, no set up, no revealing if it was all just a dream like the 1997 script, nothing. I guess Freddy won the battle.

Regardless, this script was hated by everyone that Rob Bottin essentially disappeared by 1998 in Hollywood. And I'm being serious, that he just vanished out of Hollywood and is barely heard from again. Maybe it was a personal drama, maybe he didn't want to do effects anymore, maybe the FvJ scripts made him realize his dreams of directing weren't gonna work out the way he wanted. He absolutely hated the new script as well. Sean S. Cunningham hated it so much, he lost faith in reading another Freddy vs. Jason script. Effects artist, Jim Issac pushed him to make a new Friday the 13th movie around this time instead which became Jason X and he agreed to sign up on it. (Yup, this script was SO AWFUL, Jason in space was produced.) Good God! But New Line didn't want that to happen. The Mark Verheiden draft in 1999 when Jason X was first written was a very faithful representation of the prior movies and followed the original movies instead of a New Nightmare/Scream approach. Took out the Freddy copycat and made Freddy do the plotting and killings and had a climax set in a burning barn like F13 Part 3 and 5. The writer absolutely loved the F13 films, especially Part 4 and Part 6 and wanted a tone similar to the two and felt Part 7 Jason was the best. And if Jason X didn't work out, then they would've worked on this script instead. Possibly with the same cast and crew perhaps. Who knows. But Cunningham was the one who wanted Freddy vs. Jason to get made to begin with and it was his company making Jason X but New Line wanted FvJ to get made first and they still didn't want to lose the fight. And in the millennium of 2000, a new draft was made to match Jason in space. See you next time…