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Kjerya-Copenhapen [2012-08-25 14:06:25 +0000 UTC]
I like the Leo Tolstoy quotes - he's one of my favourite Russian authors and vegetarians! (I own a copy of War and Peace, one of his best novels). It's sad to think that so many people still think that animals are nothing more than objects to be used and abused at the whim of mankind. I believe all animals have souls. And it's true that humans don't own animals, or created them for our own usage. Animals exist for a number of reasons, and some animals have been here years before humans. Animals aren't our servants or products that we should mass produce for luxuries, either. I found a few other quotes on animal rights/veganism/environmentalism from Wikiquote too:
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Kjerya-Copenhapen In reply to Nightroaming [2012-08-25 19:05:04 +0000 UTC]
Well, like I say, we animal lovers, vegetarians and environmentalists should stick together and do our best to make the world a better place for all animals and people alike. And animals do matter to me a lot! It makes me very sad to think that even this very minute, animals out there are suffering at the hands of their cruel masters or being treated as if they have no emotions of their own.
Also, when it comes to supporting animal rights, people immediately jump on me sometimes; they think I'm some kind of terrorist or self-righteous eco-freak who wants to kill and hurt people. Just because I care about animals and want to put an end to the cruelty doesn't mean that I'm a human killer or think I'm some kind of super-god... I have to say it's great to talk to people like you about these things, because as animal lovers, we genuinely concerned about other animals and think that they deserve far better. No animal should be regarded as a mere tool, object or machine. Animals are far more than just another steak, fur coat or 'dumb beast.' There's so much we can discover about them and learn from them. Sometimes, I believe there's far more to animals than some of us think, something spiritual, mysterious and intricate. There's something in all forms of life which we can admire. Life comes with no price tag of its own, nor can it be measured in mere numbers or grades of value. I value my life just as much as any other animal; we should not simply assume that nonhuman animals possess lives or qualities that are inferior to ours. Whether one is a human, a pig, a dog, a rat, a snake or a bird, all animals should be respected. No matter whate species one may be, we all possess one thing in common: we are all living things who are trying our best to survive and all have goals and priorities of our own, and no matter how small we may seem, we all hold significance and are all capable of experiencing love, hate, pain, pleasure, anger and sadness.
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mintydragon [2011-09-07 13:33:24 +0000 UTC]
50 Billion and 1,680:
Worldwide, the yearly slaughter count is more than 50 billion. Every second, 1,680 animals are killed for food. Most farmed animals are killed when they are barely adolescents or even younger, such as the "broiler" chickens raised for meat who are slaughtered at only 6–7 weeks old.
250 Million Chicks:
The U.S. egg industry suffocates, gases, or grinds up alive 250 million male chicks each year; they are not profitable because they will never produce eggs and are not bred to grow at an unnatural speed like broiler chickens.
5.5 Million Calves:
The 4.5 million calves in Europe and 1 million calves in the United States annually destined to become veal are forcibly pulled away from their mothers — dairy cows — within hours, or at most 1–2 days, of birth. The milk produced naturally by the mother's body for her calf, who normally would suckle for 6 to 12 months, is to be taken for sale to humans, so the calf is fed nutritionally deficient formula. His movement is severely restricted, to give his flesh the texture and colour desired by human consumers.
90 Percent of Soybeans and 80 Percent of Corn:
More than 90 percent of soybean meal grown in the United States is used to feed animals being raised for human food; these animals also consume 80 percent of corn grown in the United States.
Animal Agriculture and Environment
70 Percent of Land:
In the Amazon, 70 percent of once-forested land is now used for grazing cattle.
18 Percent of Greenhouse Gas Emissions:
Animal agriculture is responsible for 18 percent of greenhouse gas emissions — more than all the planes, trains, ships, and automobiles in the world combined. Animal agriculture is responsible for an astonishing 65 percent of nitrous oxide emissions (a gas with a global warming potential [GWP] 296 times that of CO2), 37 percent of methane (GWP 23 times that of CO2), and 9 percent of CO2.
37 Percent of Pesticides and 50 Percent of Antibiotics:
Animal agriculture uses 37 percent of all pesticides and 50 percent of antibiotics and contributes enormously to water pollution, endangering human and nonhuman animal health and life.
Animal Testing
25 to 100 Million Animals:
More than 25 million vertebrate animals are used in testing in the United States each year — including monkeys, chimpanzees, beagles and other dogs, cats, rabbits, mice, birds, farm animals, and still other sentient beings. After the experiments conclude, essentially all of the animals who have survived the research are killed. When invertebrate animals are considered, the estimated number rises to as high as 100 million.
50 Drugs:
Despite all this suffering in the name of determining safety for humans, as of 2002, more than 50 drugs tested on animals and approved by the FDA as safe had been taken off the market or relabelled because they had caused serious illnesses and death in humans. The FDA itself estimated in 2006 that 92 percent of drugs that pass animal testing fail in human clinical trials.
Companion Animals
6 to 8 Million Dogs and Cats:
Every year, 6 to 8 million dogs and cats enter shelters, and 3 to 4 million shelter dogs and cats are killed.
80 Percent of Puppies:
Most pet store puppies (and 80 percent of the American Kennel Club's business) come from puppy mills, mass-breeding operations in which ill, suffering dogs are kept in deplorable conditions. They breed between 2 and 4 million puppies each year.
Examples of Animals in Human Entertainment
7,600 Puppies and 11,400 Young or Adult Dogs:
In 2000 approximately 7,600 greyhound puppies deemed not fast enough to race were killed, as were an estimated 11,400 "retired" dogs. Retired greyhounds, who suffer greatly as racers, may also be sold to research labs or used to breed future litters.
100 Percent of Major Circuses:
Every major circus featuring animals has been cited for violations of the minimal standards of care under the Animal Welfare Act. The very nature of travelling circuses means that beyond cruel, highly abusive training and fear-induced performances, the elephants and other animals must also endure countless hours and days confined in boxcars and trailers.
Fur
350,000 Baby Seals:
In 2006 more than 350,000 baby seals were killed, mostly by clubbing, in the annual Canadian seal hunt; 98 percent of the slaughtered harp seals were less than 3 months old. Forty-two percent of the seals in a 2001 study by veterinarians were found to be skinned while alive and conscious.
30 Million:
More than 30 million mink, foxes, chinchillas, and other animals are killed on fur farms each year, by such methods as electrocution and poisoning. Neither fur farms nor the methods by which trapped animals can be killed are regulated by any U.S. laws.
2 Million Dogs and Cats:
Some fur trims and clothes labelled as fake or as from another animal are actually made from dog and cat fur exported by China, where the more than 2 million dogs and cats per year killed for fur suffer unspeakable cruelties, including sometimes the documented horror of being skinned alive.
Wildlife
3,000 Gorillas and 4,000 Chimpanzees:
Each year, roughly 3,000 gorillas, 4,000 chimpanzees, and hundreds of bonobos are killed for bush meat in Africa — a devastating practice enabled and encouraged by the logging industry. Orphaned young usually die as well.
2 Million Wild Animals:
The federal Wildlife Services agency, a part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, kills 2 million wild animals per year (2.4 million in 2007), including endangered species, at the request of cattle ranchers, hunters, and municipalities and uses such tactics as poisoning, shooting, and even beheading and burning alive. The poisoning method in particular results in the indiscriminate killing of many "non-target" individuals and species.
300,000 Whales, Dolphins, and Porpoises:
The global fishing industry's many problems include the devastating issue of bycatch: yearly, billions of ocean animals are caught unintentionally and thrown back, dead or dying, including 100 million sharks and rays; approximately 300,000 whales, dolphins, and porpoises; 250,000 endangered turtles; and hundreds of thousands of birds. Shrimp fisheries are perhaps the worst offenders, with commonly more than 80 percent bycatch. Numerous species are facing extinction because of fishing and bycatch.
Activism
Zero:
In direct action tactics to save animals in the United States, no human being has ever been killed or harmed.
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Nightroaming In reply to mintydragon [2011-09-08 14:33:42 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for this piece of text. I would call it information, but it sadly lacks any sources.
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WarewolfPuppies101 [2011-06-04 14:44:03 +0000 UTC]
It's true. People take poor dogs and force them to mate and have puppies, just so these terrible people can sell them. Cows are taken to factories and bred in the poorest environment and fed hormones just so they can get fat to become our next steak meal. It's fine to hunt one or two animals for meat, but today, hunters kill too many animals. Beautiful snow leopards are skinned for a rich lady's new coat. Whales are killed for fertilizer and dog kibble, which could be made from other things. Bighorn sheep are turned into wall trophies. And so on...
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SherbertTCat [2010-09-05 01:41:27 +0000 UTC]
If animals and humans are to have the same rights, then that would mean we are entitled to eat meat. Other animals get to eat meat, so why can't we?
If animals are no different than we, then we should begin arresting them for vagrancy, indecent exposure, vandalism and a host of other crimes, that if they were our equals, would be guilty of!
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Nightroaming In reply to SherbertTCat [2010-09-06 08:00:20 +0000 UTC]
I never said animals and humans should have the same rights and responsibilities.
"I don't think this submission will reach many but anyway before you ask any questions, read this: [link] "
If you think that's too much text to read, let me help:
"Question 1: Animals eat one another in nature, so why shouldn’t we eat animals?
Variations on this question include, "Aren’t humans at the top of the food chain?" and "Aren’t humans omnivores?" Please really think about what we do to animals on factory farms and in slaughterhouses, denying animals everything that is natural to them and then killing them in gruesome ways, and try to tell me that this is moral. Nature’s law is, without a doubt, Darwin’s "survival of the fittest." But some animals may procreate by rape and other animals may fight territorial battles to the death. But the fact that those things occur in nature does not mean we say they’re acceptable for humans. We hold ourselves to a higher standard in our interactions with one another. We even hold ourselves to a higher standard with regard to animals we often form special bonds with, such as dogs and cats—readily granting them some basic protections. What animal welfare advocates suggest is that we should be compassionate toward all animals, not just those who we know a bit better."
So, in short, the fact that something occurs in nature among animal species other than humans does not justify us to do the same. If it did, we should legalize for example killing one's own offspring. You can't use "but it's natural" as an argument unless you abandon everything that's unnatural and adapt to the natural rule of survival of the fittest.
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SherbertTCat In reply to Nightroaming [2010-09-19 04:54:35 +0000 UTC]
Please, don't insult my intelligence by quoting pro-vegan propaganda. That's like asking Apple if they like Macs over PCs.
A good part of your quoted material takes only certain western cultural sensibilities into account. In some cultures they DO eat the species that we tend to treat as pets. In some cultures they eat people. In some cultures they eat creatures that most others would find inedible.
And If you think eating the animals is causing them to suffer, I want you to take a good look around you. Most everything you own or use has in some way has had a negative impact on wild life.
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