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The Confederate soldiers were traitors to the Union, I support the lives of our troops and seeing how the Confederacy killed hundreds of thousands of American soldiers support for the Confederacy anti-patriotic.
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Do you not understand that they were all Americans who all took up arms to fight what each and every individualΒ man believed in? ... Yes, they all followed orders but they also fought for their own Countries and their own values above what others thought of them. You being a Anarcho-Communist should understand that. Furthermore, to say that the Confederates were anti-patriotic is just foolish given the fact that it was patriotism that allowed the Confederate States of America as a nation to rise in the first place.
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First of all, I'm not an anarcho-communist I'm actually an authoritarian communist who also happens to disagree with Marxism-Leninism. So I see anarcho-communists as only slightly better than Stalinists and Capitalists. But anyway, just because people fight for their own traditional values does not make them right. Islamic radicals who preach fundamentalism only want to fight for their traditions, does that make them right? Also let's no forget that the Confederates were the ones who fired the first shots, so all the actions that the Union made in the Civil War were merely in self-defense.Β
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"First of all, I'm not an anarcho-communist I'm actually an authoritarian communist who also happens to disagree with Marxism-Leninism. So I see anarcho-communists as only slightly better than Stalinists and Capitalists."
I honestly assumed by your icon.
"But anyway, just because people fight for their own traditional values does not make them right. Islamic radicals who preach fundamentalism only want to fight for their traditions, does that make them right?"
Β Β Β I never said anything about "traditional values", I am talking about the political, Constitutional and religious rights that the Southern people had and upheld as American Citizens before the Union Army invaded South Carolina in 1861. We're also talking about the 19th Century here, their belief systems were different then ours today which twists the perspective of what went on in the era. Heck, if the United States Military forcefully invaded my home State, I'd be up in arms too ready to defend my own homeland from foreign invaders. That's the way the South Carolinians and other Southerners felt when the Union Army invaded the South at full force.Β
... "Also let's no forget that the Confederates were the ones who fired the first shots, so all the actions that the Union made in the Civil War were merely in self-defense."
Β Β Β Need I remind you that a Union garrison attempted to occupy Fort Sumter under the threat of being arrested by South Carolina Militiamen prior to those cannons being fired at the Forts walls. Self Defense was not a matter in that case because Union troops were not even suppose to be in South Carolina a year after they seceded from the Union. Full rights were given to the South Carolina Guard to defend their own land, especially since the Union gave up Fort Sumter when South Carolina became its own Republic. Nice try on giving me that run around, it won't work.
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That's fine, after my exams I'll make a journal outlining all of my political views.
Of course the people of the Confederacy were fighting for their homes, but so were the people of the Union. After all, the Confederates under Robert E. Lee marched into American territory and used mass attacks specifically designed to cause maximum casualtiesΒ to both the Union troops and his own. The most heinous example of this is of course Pickett's charge, which we all know ended in the absolute slaughter of Lee's own men. So just because they were fighting for their home, doesn't mean they weren't also needlessly slaughtering hundreds of thousands.
And just because the fort was within South Carolinian territory does not mean it belonged to the Confederates, after all it was the Federal Government who had built the fort so those Union legally owned the fort and legally could move troops into it whenever they wanted. The fact that the Confederates wanted to seize this property meant that all the Union troops were trying to do was protect their fort, which was built out of granite from New England, let's not forget.
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"That's fine, after my exams I'll make a journal outlining all of my political views."
Right.
"Of course the people of the Confederacy were fighting for their homes, but so were the people of the Union. After all, the Confederates under Robert E. Lee marched into American territory and used mass attacks specifically designed to cause maximum casualtiesΒ to both the Union troops and his own. The most heinous example of this is of course Pickett's charge, which we all know ended in the absolute slaughter of Lee's own men. So just because they were fighting for their home, doesn't mean they weren't also needlessly slaughtering hundreds of thousands."
A Country cannot win a war against another Country without pushing into that other Countries own territory, obviously. The Confederate Army did its best to push as far North as they could, though their valiant effort jabbed them in the end when Richmond, VA was taken. The rules of war were based on line battles back then just as they were in the War of 1812 and the American Revolutionary War. Granted, General Pickett could've done a much better job with his famous Charge but as you might know, his forces were already desperately dwindled from the battle prior. That Charge was a desperate last jab at the Union forces facing them on the battlefield.
"And just because the fort was within South Carolinian territory does not mean it belonged to the Confederates, after all it was the Federal Government who had built the fort so those Union legally owned the fort and legally could move troops into it whenever they wanted. The fact that the Confederates wanted to seize this property meant that all the Union troops were trying to do was protect their fort, which was built out of granite from New England, let's not forget."
First of all, the Confederacy didn't exist around the time of the first battle of Fort Sumter, it was under South Carolina's control, in fact, the Union abandoned it the moment the State secede from the Union because it was unfinished under construction. If it were not abandoned then this debate wouldn't still be going on today. You cannot possibly say that the Militiamen of South Carolina "wanted to seize this property", being Fort Sumter, when the Union gave up the property in the beginning. That one Union garrison had no place in South Carolina in the first place and was being tracked down by the Military. Furthermore, the fact that Fort Sumter was built out of granite from New England is quite irrelevant. Attempting to trigger me by where that Fort's construction supplies came from is just petty of you.
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Respect to the men in blue and there adversaries in grey.
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Amen. I salute the flags with Red, White and Blue on both sides.
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we already know whats sides we'd be on.
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we thank the soldiers that gave up their lives for our freedom.Β
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preach it, brother. if it weren't for them, we'd be in deep shit.
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We'd be overrun by some other Super Power by now.
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yup. left wing, right wing, dosen't matter. they made the choise to fight to the death for our freedoms. 'murica
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How to ruin memorial day?
Add a confederate flag.
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How to be a fool: not recognize the fact that both sides of the American Civil War consisted of Americans who took up their own arms to fight in two military's of the same bred Nation of Nations.
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Who said I didnt recognize that?
I hated both americas.
But I respect the democratic one a litte bit more.
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They were both Democratic so your statement is a bit stupid.
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I dont see a conservative state as democratic.
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Apparently you don't know what Democracy is then.
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Appearently you dont know what "for me" means then.
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If you don't see a conservative state as democratic because it's not "for you", why should a conservative see your liberal state as democratic when it's not "for them"?
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Seriously?
Taking my sentences out of context?
I said FOR ME its not democratic.
Wait a second...
HAHAHAHAHA
YOU THINK IM LIBERAL
AHAAHAHAHA
Well then.
Also I dont know.
You dont have to!
I dont think liberals are very democratic,since they tend to be corrupted.
And Corruption doesnt make a good republic.
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The only message that I get out of that is selfishness.
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Please tell me...How am I selfish?
Because all I did is Β insult america.
How is insulting a country selfish?
I didnt say my country is better than yours,did I?
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Lets see here, you quoted "For me" as if someone else already said it implying that you wanted something for yourself from an entire Country. That is a selfish thing for you to do and frankly, quite foolish.
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"I dont see a conservative state as democratic."
How is that selfish?
Please tell me.
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Nowhere in that does it say "For me".
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Its the same.
In the sentence Im talking about me,and what I think.
Thats why I used "For me".
Im sorry if my bad wording confused you.
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It'(s) not the same, learn to use punctuation first before you try to quote something.
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Criticzing Grammar.
Im sorry but thats just low.
Thats just LOW.
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If it's that low then you should avoid making the same mistake again.
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Says the guy who criticized me for forgetting a dot.
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What can I say, I'm a Grammar Nazi.
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Lol rofl ok dud
By the way that was on purpose.
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