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Description Hello!

So I just got this new girl, she's beautiful I KNOW! Well she's been here in the US for about 2-3 weeks now so I'm assuming it is something that I have not done (as in changing water properly doing this that or the other).

Her left eye was cloudy today when I saw it and bloated. As you can see here it looks funky. It has since grown (to me it could be the change of light).

I have Maracyn Two on hand and so I gave her that and will be sticking to the 5 day treatment. I am going to get epsom salt tomorrow so if this doesn't work than I'll have that (or I may add it along with the treatment).
I was also going to get some almond leaves form aquabid.com

I need some advice because i don't want to lose her or have her suffer from my lack of knowledge!

I have her in a 2.5 heated little tank. I just added the gravel today and I have no live plants with her. I also did a 100% water change today when I noticed her eye. I've had her for about a week and 2 days now. I believe I over fed her yesterday so that's why I took a close look at her because she seemed bloated and then I noticed her eye!
HELP!

I have posted on bettafish.com and here is the link with more pictures! [link]
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AzakiShimo [2014-02-18 16:34:34 +0000 UTC]

My fish has pop eye and I'm extremely worried~

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ohmyhii In reply to AzakiShimo [2014-02-18 16:37:37 +0000 UTC]

Do you have pictures?Β 

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AzakiShimo In reply to ohmyhii [2014-02-18 17:22:13 +0000 UTC]

Not at a moment I'm trying my best to take a quick pic, but he(long tail fish) just keeps moving around to much~ his eye looks like it's going to Β pop out soon and I can see what it looks like blood from his inside eye socket~

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ohmyhii In reply to AzakiShimo [2014-03-19 03:17:20 +0000 UTC]

Oh gosh I'm so sorry it has taken so long to reply!! Β How is he?Β 

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Junitea [2013-03-24 15:09:09 +0000 UTC]

That's unfortunate, hopefully she'll be okay!! Thankfully I haven't had any problems with male crown tail betta, Leonardo.

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ohmyhii In reply to Junitea [2013-04-08 15:22:15 +0000 UTC]

Well I have noticed at my home Petco that most of the EE bettas have eye problems and since she is one it probably came from that. She is a LOT better now and from what I can tell her eye is fully healed it was just using the maracyn two for the 5 days and then Epsom salt 2 teaspoons per gallon (in her 2.5 I only put about 3 teaspoons just to make sure I couldn't or won't over do it). But she's happy and healthier now!

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Junitea In reply to ohmyhii [2013-04-09 14:15:23 +0000 UTC]

That's great to hear!!

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dogatemymanuscript [2013-03-21 15:28:33 +0000 UTC]

I use Melafix for most of my Betta infection problems. It's hit or miss between individuals on how well it works though.

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ohmyhii In reply to dogatemymanuscript [2013-04-08 15:24:41 +0000 UTC]

I've heard that all -fix type medication can be bad for the labyrinth organ. Also I know that sometimes it's just water quality related or just from stress. I did use maracyn two for the 5 days recommended but I didn't really see an improvement until I did the 2 teaspoons per gallon of Epsom salt treatment (For her 2.5 I only did about 3 teaspoons to make sure I didn't over do it) and she seems fully healed

I've also noticed that EE bettas tend to have eye problems and I thought that was maybe just at my home petco but I found out others have it which would explain why she got it out of the blue. Most likely from stress and being in a new home again.

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dogatemymanuscript In reply to ohmyhii [2013-04-08 15:56:45 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad she's better. Epsom salt treatment is really good for stubborn health problems. Oh, and I've never heard the -fix medication was bad for the labyrinth organ. I use melafix and premafix a lot, but mine are all pretty fine. It does seem to make elderly Bettas somewhat worse though.

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ohmyhii In reply to dogatemymanuscript [2014-04-02 02:35:07 +0000 UTC]

Yeah be very careful with the -fix type medication. Β Especially because the bettas cannot tell us if they have trouble breathing or if they're not getting enough oxygen. Β 
I find that the best cure all is clean heated water. Β And a cycled tank is the best as well. Β I lost 3 bettas because i believe I added AQ salt in too quickly and it stressed them out Β 

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Fox-Mistress [2013-03-20 19:41:40 +0000 UTC]

Her coloration is quite beautiful! Is she feeling any better?

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ohmyhii In reply to Fox-Mistress [2013-03-21 00:20:22 +0000 UTC]

Thank you and she is doing a little bit better today but it is only day two of treatment :/ but at least she doesn't seem to be getting worse (knock on wood!)

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Double-Trouble23 [2013-03-20 19:32:52 +0000 UTC]

The maracyn 2 should help, one of my bro's fish had it (due to trauma) and I did the M2, it didn't go away until after the treatment, this could be different, the most I can say is clean water to help it out. Continue with the M2 and wait a few days before you start with epsoms.

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ohmyhii In reply to Double-Trouble23 [2013-03-21 00:21:47 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I don't know what happened (someone suggested she could have poked her eye) but she seems to be getting a little better so I'm being very hopeful! And I am doing 20% water changes and then putting the medication into the new water. And at the end I may do a full 100% water change and then add a light dose of Epsom salt just to continue to fight this

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Double-Trouble23 In reply to ohmyhii [2013-03-21 05:44:30 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, she could have! Might have been some sort of trauma, or maybe even water quality from shipping?? Its likely that it might not have shown up right away... or it could be your water quality?? In a 2.5 she should be getting 100% changes...

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ohmyhii In reply to Double-Trouble23 [2013-03-26 18:55:59 +0000 UTC]

Well she was with a transporter for a week and then me a week so I believe it was either stress or maybe the fact that I only did a 50% change within 6-7 days rather than several at a time? (She also has been 'playing' with my other girl through the glass of their tanks so she could have scratched it on something?)

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Double-Trouble23 In reply to ohmyhii [2013-03-26 19:30:09 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, could be stress among other things, the water should have been changed completely then. If there was something near the glass she could have!

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ohmyhii In reply to Double-Trouble23 [2014-04-02 02:37:51 +0000 UTC]

She turned out to be fine afterwards Β 

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Ebony-Winged-Oni [2013-03-20 05:06:56 +0000 UTC]

Try Maracyn, it's stronger than Maracyn Two. And only change 25% of the water
each day that you are treating her, or else she won't benefit from the medication.

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ohmyhii In reply to Ebony-Winged-Oni [2013-03-20 13:00:23 +0000 UTC]

Ok I don't have that and I was also going to add Epsom salt. Should I still be doing a 20% water change with both the Maracyn Two and Epsom salt?

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Ebony-Winged-Oni In reply to ohmyhii [2013-04-01 18:11:45 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I would do that.

(I know this is a late reply, I hope your fish is doing well.)

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ohmyhii In reply to Ebony-Winged-Oni [2013-04-02 15:10:44 +0000 UTC]

She's doing excellent I medicated her and have been using Epsom salt and her eye is MUCH better

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Ebony-Winged-Oni In reply to ohmyhii [2013-04-03 19:08:40 +0000 UTC]

that's great! maybe you could help me with my fish?
[link]

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ohmyhii In reply to Ebony-Winged-Oni [2013-04-04 05:55:21 +0000 UTC]

ok I just checked him out, let me know how he's doing!

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PunkyPug89 [2013-03-20 04:57:22 +0000 UTC]

Are you sure that's a female? It appears to be a male. Either way, if you're going to do 100% daily water changes. You might as well save that medication. Clean water is the best medication in my book.

20% weekly changes aren't enough. 20% changes should only be done in cycled tanks. Make sure there's nothing that could of poked it's eye and cause injury. If there isn't anything, then it's likely the cause of improper water changes. BTW, I'm on bettafish/TFK as FishyFishy89

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ohmyhii In reply to PunkyPug89 [2013-03-20 13:07:20 +0000 UTC]

Yes she has eggs, I made sure to check lol and I wasn't planning on doing 100% changes because it stresses her io it ( I find that unless the cup I cup them in is clear they really freak out so I'm getting clear cups today).

I never even got a chance to do any partial water change. I was going to change according to the ph levels but since I've only had her a week that never happened. I got her last Saturday and I did do about 20-30 percent water change Friday when I went home for the weekend. When I got back everyone seemed fine. I then did a 100% yesterday when I noticed her eye. In checking the pH yesterday both her and my peachy girl had zero (although hers seemed to be a little more green than yellow). I was told by a lady on bettafish.com that 20% worked for her and she'd do a 100% water change once a month. I thought that wasn't enough but I also had a betta who had been on horrible conditions and required his water to be fully changed every 5 days or he would clamp up. So I'm new to keeping fish in 2.5 without full water changes. I'm currently cycling a 10 gallon for my girls. Maybelline is in her 5 gallon cycled tank and my two new girls are in 2.5's.

And glad to meet you again! thank you for getting back to me on this!! I've never had a betta get pop eye under my care I've only ever adopted betas with it

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PunkyPug89 In reply to ohmyhii [2013-03-20 20:35:46 +0000 UTC]

Well if you're going to be using medication, you should be doing daily 100% changes. I've done 100% water changes before and never had any "freak outs". I lure them into their cups with a little blood worm. Lift the cup out, give em another wormy/secure the lid. When they're done acclimating, I let em swim out and give em 1 last wormy.

Unless your tank is cycled or is fully planted, you should be doing 50% weekly.

Good luck with your rare girl. Lucky find

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ohmyhii In reply to PunkyPug89 [2013-03-21 00:24:27 +0000 UTC]

I'm doing 20% water changes and adding the medication to the new water. The reason that she is panicking every water change is because the cup I use is solid and not clear. I've actually been 'experimenting' without really knowing it. So now I need to find the time to actually get off campus and find some clear cups so that she won't be as stressed.

And don't worry that was the plan until this happened :/ so my 10 is being cycled so I can put all my girls together in hopefully 2-3 weeks!!

And thank you she came from aquabid.com her and my white one are the first two fish I ever bought from there!!

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PunkyPug89 In reply to ohmyhii [2013-03-21 01:22:14 +0000 UTC]

Are you using a carbon filter?
You may accidentally over medicate by not doing 100% changes. The 100% changes are removing the medication.
Likewise, if you're using a carbon filter she may not benefit from the medication enough if the carbon removes it from the water column too quickly.

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ohmyhii In reply to PunkyPug89 [2013-03-21 02:37:32 +0000 UTC]

I made sure to use my Chemistry knowledge to give her the amount that would be required for a 2.5 and no I do not. She is in a still water 2.5 gallon tank.

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Bluesand1313 In reply to PunkyPug89 [2013-03-20 05:44:57 +0000 UTC]

The only surefire way to tell if she's a he or she would be to see the front fins. If they are small it is most definitely a she. If they are long and flowing, it is most definitely a he. Just because she is pretty and colourful doesn't mean that she is a he

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PunkyPug89 In reply to Bluesand1313 [2013-03-20 20:27:53 +0000 UTC]

I didn't say that because the fish was pretty and colorful that it meant it was a he. I've actually had several betta fish among the years. Both male/female, young/old. I am more inclined to think that it's a male simply because it's quite rare to see an elephant ear female.

FYI, the ventrals aren't really a sure fire way to tell the betta's gender. I've had females with long ventrals and males with short ventrals.

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Storm137 [2013-03-20 04:14:33 +0000 UTC]

My betta had popeye too (my crowntail) we did a 10 day regimen of epsom salt and water changes but he was getting weaker from constantly being moved so we had to adjust it for him.

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ohmyhii In reply to Storm137 [2013-03-20 04:18:05 +0000 UTC]

I know that doing 100% water changes are going to stress her out to no end and with the maracyn two it is a 5 day thing and you only do water changes if the water becomes too cloudy so I'm hoping this will help! But I will be getting epsom salt. How did you boy do?

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Storm137 In reply to ohmyhii [2013-03-20 04:21:15 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know distilled water was bad for my fish at the time and I had been using that...It took longer because his immune system wasn't the best but it went down eventually...It just took two weeks.

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ohmyhii In reply to Storm137 [2013-03-20 04:26:47 +0000 UTC]

Oh ok, I just use tap water which I know is 0 in everything and I do water conditioner. I just hope she'll be ok and that I will be able to put her into her sorority when it is ready!
I really dont' want her losing her eye sight!!

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Storm137 In reply to ohmyhii [2013-03-20 04:27:53 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know tap water was better for betta's at the time. Your doing it right I'm sure. Kai could still see out of his eye he was just very sickly after...But that was all mine and my parents fault.

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ohmyhii In reply to Storm137 [2013-03-20 13:21:24 +0000 UTC]

Trust me I've done a lot of things without knowing there was a better solution or things I am defiantly learning as I go!
It wasn't y'alls fault, you guys didn't know better and at least he made it through! I've only ever adopted sick bettas so I've never really known a full on healthy betta so I feel horrible because her pop eye is from my negligence and I've been doing this for almost a year with countless bettas so I should be well informed on what to do but yet I let this happen

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Storm137 In reply to ohmyhii [2013-03-20 13:22:45 +0000 UTC]

It's not your fault either. The real fault lies in places like Petsmart who mis-treat betta fish to begin with. Ammonia filled cups? Not exactly the best thing for them to be in to begin with. No one's fault but THEM. Not yours.

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ohmyhii In reply to Storm137 [2013-03-21 00:25:45 +0000 UTC]

I actually got her from Thailand she was shipped in about 2 and a half weeks ago and stayed with a lady for a week until I was able to pick her up. This one was all on me because I had her for more than a week BUT it is all pet stores faults for not knowing how to take care of their own animals! Gosh unless I see them in nice big tanks with other fish that they're suppose to be with. I'm not happy!

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Storm137 In reply to ohmyhii [2013-03-21 04:25:47 +0000 UTC]

Hey accidents happen. I had Kai for six months before his pop eye showed up sometimes it just happens.


Very true I just..I can't go into the betta aisles anymore because their so gross.

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ohmyhii In reply to Storm137 [2014-04-01 22:51:32 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I do not go to walmart period. Β I refuse to support them for their barbaric methods

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Storm137 In reply to ohmyhii [2014-04-01 23:01:04 +0000 UTC]

Unfortunately a lot of the groceries my mom buys are only found at WalMart so as much as I hate them (and I'm sure they hate me, I've raised enough bitch fits that they've stopped putting fish in those disgusting half gallon 'tanks' for display) I can't afford not to go there. Q__Q;; ;

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ohmyhii In reply to Storm137 [2014-04-02 02:24:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I just go to krogers when I'm in college but we also have a dining hall so that's practically where I get everything. Β But if you keep doing it hopefully someone will listen Β 

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Storm137 In reply to ohmyhii [2014-04-02 02:30:15 +0000 UTC]

Unfortunately not many actually listen to someone who knows what their talking about, they claim they're "happy" in the cups and claim the huddled to the bottom of the cup classic stressed/sick betta pose is: "Fish napping." to whichΒ  told them and I quote:

"That is bullshit and you know it, you know nothing about these animals. Look at the one in the fish tank over there, he's healthy and HAPPY, because he actually is in a place where he's comfortable, now LOOK here this isn't acceptable, look how much feces is in here. If you can't even keep them from inhaling their own shit then you should stop selling animals." Then I left. They actually did have a crown tail in a tank with some neon tetra's, dunno if he could reach the top to poke through but from the rapid swimming around and seemingly being happy in his little abode I could tell a big diff...Pity I never got that one, but by that point I had two fish of my own.

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ohmyhii In reply to Storm137 [2014-04-03 16:53:45 +0000 UTC]

Ugh I know what you mean! Β As an animal science major there are a few things I've learned that others have not. Β But regardless I think people in general have a hard to admitting that we don't know certain things. Β And when I worked at petland it was hard for me because I know what is the right home for them but no one listens.Β 


Yeah I refuse to buy fish from anyone like that from now on. Β my petco does an ok job with caring for their fish but still not good enough. Β 

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Storm137 In reply to ohmyhii [2014-04-03 16:55:04 +0000 UTC]

My petco finally has a heater branded for betta's specifically...It worked great for when I had my boys, it was a below ground heater but the water was warm through out.

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