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Noticed similarities with Bart and Naruto but also wanted to point how bad the popularity of Naruto is(No offense Musashi Kishimoto, since I'm referring to those who love the cartoon, not your work as the original).Naruto Uzumaki©Musashi Kishimoto
Bart Simpson©Matt Groening
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Expecting favoring by "narutards" in 3, 2, 1... Now!
Created: December 3, 2008
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HEH clever. I personally feel naruto is TOO long and needs to end. I enjoy Western stories a bit more cause their shorter than manga.
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Thanks for the favorite, friend.
As for Naruto, I agree. Kishimoto had a great story about a more fox-like child(complete with tail) and his challenge against adults who want to help him.
Then he got awarded, and then he changed the story about a brat and some side characters that take up more screen time than him.
I personally hope that when Naruto ends that Kishimoto finally does his mafia story. It looks way much mature compared to "Colorful Ninja of the week".
As for Japanese comics in general. They don't bother me. I actually having the books on my shelf rather than reading them online since I feel as though I'm following along with the storyteller as their epic tries to find closure.
Though, you're right. Series like Inuyasha really just needed to be 15 volumes long instead of fifty books of filler due to Rumiko Takahashi trying to stall things for her characters. Though if we're going to bring western comics into our conversation, Tin Tin and Asterix have a lot of volumes, but each story seem to be different(just like Deadpool) which works in my opinion.
Japanese gag manga tend to follow the European roots of storytelling by having different stories for each chapter which makes it easier to follow and characters set into the mind. Which is the reason why Looney Toons work.
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AGreed, Kishimoto had a good story at the beginning.Heck im using the idea of a fox man in a story of mine except im putting elements of Spawn into it.
Ill admit the characters hes made are mostly well developed but again its TOO long. Thats why i like stuff Like Deadpool (Love this guy). the world hes in is ongoing but its a bunch of stories, so it works (as you said).
Japanse manga doesnt bother me either, i jsut wish it was shorter. Also yeah I want to read Kishimotos Mafia sotry cause it seems it would be more mature (and again hopefully shorter).
Sorry for my ramblings heh
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No problem, I love to hear people's theories and opinions. At least you separated your thoughts into paragraphs unlike some people(I have a hard time reading a wall of text that isn't properly paragraphed).
Naruto worked at first since it was about characters doing odd-jobs and not heavy emphasis on a continuity. Then we had Orochimaru and the tests, and that's where I think the story slowed down for me.
Now, with stories like Genkaku Picasso and Midori Days, each chapters is easy to jump in and you don't have to worry about a whole bunch of continuity. Though there is a exception in Dr. Slump, where you have some continuity, but the gags and current chapter story work that you don't have to worry about backtracking.
The more shorter the volumes, the better I feel. Afro Samurai had only two volumes, but it didn't have any filler, so it concluded well.
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AGreed on the wall of text being annoying and on naruto.
Since the whole Madara etc etc stuff happened its been focused on all of that (and the extended fight scenes dont help). I much prefered it at the beginning because there wasnt such a slow story.
I really dont read manga that much, I read American/Western comics more. Again i dont hate manga i just hate how long some of them they can be. Oh that and the fans can be scary. I honestly feel a bit bad for Kishimoto cause hes got a raging underworld below him (the more crazy shippers).
I dont mind filler as long as theres not a CRAPLOAD of it. so id agree with you that the shorter the volumes better i feel.
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When there's a fight scene in Fullmetal Alchemist, it's not over four chapters long(except for the war story). Arakawa knows what she's directing and doesn't want to bore her audience.
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Ive never seen full metal Alchemist, Heard its good though. With a war story a long fight is forgivable casue well its WAR. I plan to avoid ultra long fight scenes in my comics, they can get boring fast.
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Same here. Though in Camoflauge(comic I'm redoing from a older unfinished work), I start it In Medias Res so that I can give impact to the story while explaining who the protagonists are before I show more of the characters.
It's how it worked in Soul Eater, until the author did a Kishimoto. So... Yeah, trying to make sure I don't have the story go slowly with a 50 page fight scene. I hope that it only goes 25 since my characters need to be introduced and a interrogation with the villain in the chapter. It also has to do with pacing.
Good luck on our comics.
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SAme to you on your comic. Ill have to read it.
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My old comic pages are on my older accounts, here's the links so you have a idea.
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I deeply apologize for all the links but here's the original old crude comic pages.
The problem with the way I used to tell them comic is that I made the chapter's villain is a little too wimpy even though as he changes his personality starts changing to suit himself.
What I've learned from making the comic is to use less panels, make the title character have less nanonite blotches to make the page go faster, and research and study backgrounds instead of winging it and add random color elements unless it's a close-up.
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Eh its ok, Many of my early comics are crap too. Actually my recent ones probably still are crap in most peoples eyes since I cant do em in photoshop and have to rely on pens and such
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It's a early piece, I'm still studying the style.
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Thanks, it's something I was thinking at the time, but my opinion has changed since then.
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I don't like the animated version myself much, but I reluctantly won the eighth volume for free which was the cause for me buying the mangas 1-?.
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Well, for me, The Simpsons is a better show in many ways.Better dialogue, better script, better anything. All in all, ''Naruto'' isn't a good show, and it's overrated-ness repulses me, A LOT.
And fans should stop at these '... character meets ... character!'', because the first time it can be fun, but then after a while it gets boring and annoying.
I hope I didn't offend anyone, by this post...
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But you have to consider that "The Simpsons" and "Naruto" are very distinct shows on their own. I like both. One makes laugh and entertains me and the other I find that it has a thrilling and entertaining story too. What I mean is, The Simpsons are an american animated sitcom show and Naruto is a japanese anime based on an action/drama/comedy(maybe) manga. Comparing the two shows isn't a very good idea in my opinion, because it's like comparing a dog to a cat, they might have their similiarities, but are very different from each other. Also, saying that The Simpsons or Naruto (anime) have better scripts than the other is kinda wrong, because The Simpsons don't have a concrete storyline and are a comedy show, while Naruto follows a manga rather than having their own script (of course, they sometimes change small things in the story, and they do write their own scripts for filler arcs, but I'll ignore that). And that makes Naruto and The Simpsons pretty much like water and oil. However, everyone has their opinions.
I do confess though, that some fans from the Naruto fanbase might be a little rude to those who don't like Naruto as much as they do, lack a critical eye and make people look at Naruto as being a bad show, even if it isn't, and I apologize for those fans, but I also beleive every series has their own hardcore/die-hard fans, no matter how small in numbers, so they're never perfect.
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Oh of course, but I wasn't trying to get the two to meet each other, I just thought they reminded me of each other. Of course Simpsons is a much well written series, but it's just that the two characters aren't supposed to be good role models but people can be so impressionable that it leads them to do the most inane things. Mind you, this isn't pointed at anyone in particular.
Naruto is better if you read the manga, the show isn't reconsidered well to my tastes.
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The fandom can be very scary, indeed. Sometimes I get surprised by some fans and their ideas...
Oh, well I never read the manga. I prefer good ol' comics
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All in all, it's a experience that you could be passing if you don't look into all the mediums. As the saying goes "don't judge a book by it's cover".
With all the comics I've read, it's dignified my personality synthesizing a individuality. Then again, mangas are still comics whether or not their Japanese. If you know, the Koreans have a book form of their own called Manwha but it's still a comic.
Comics(graphic novels to the snob nosed) are just like people. We are all the same appearance wise. Sure, we might have different colored skin or our religion might offend another but we are all human.
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I think I would like it so much more if it wasn't all around the place. I understand it's a hit, but some people overreact too much over it. Besides, the only thing that it's talked about it's the anime. So by that way I don'know if the manga is better.
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Same here, and otherwise it doesn't run in circles, book wise. Kishimoto has stated that the story is ending, which I'm highly anticipating due to him creating a gangster story called Mario. It takes place in the states.
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Really? That's interesting...it's good that Kishimoto is going to other things, unlike many authors that keep on the same story over and over again...
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When I saw the illustration, the art style reminded me of "Gantz" while the theme retrospected to the detective drama "Law & Order".
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I don't really get the popularity of Naruto...erm, why IS it so popular?
Actually, I've been wondering why a lot of things are popular and others never catch on. Like Harry Potter! They were good books, but I've read a lot of others that were just as good and yet they never got popular acclaim. How does one make something that can please the crowds? *WITHOUT selling your soul to the devil, that is*
I'll never make anything widely popular because I can't cater to the crowd...
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Funny that you bring up Harry Potter. It was a huge inspiration to the work Musashi Kishimoto created. In one of his biographical accounts in one the volumes, he makes a note that he wanted to create a story about a school of wizardry with a main character who was hyper and bit daft(similar to Uzumaki). When he realized he was getting to similar with the story Harry Potter and the plot was complex, he decided to do a story called "Spiral".
Hopefully he'll finish his ninja story so I can get to read his gangster story "Mario"! Something that I think will detract from the fantasy and more into the realism. Which I consider a good move.
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Your laughing at the last comment in my commentary, arn't you?
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