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photo: Paige Addamsmodel | mua | styling: Ifa Brand
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You know a picture is good when Drama happens!
Also saying models aren't skilled *laughs*
Photographers know that working with an experienced model is an entire different world than working with a non-skilled model.
And it can bring your picture to a much higher level.
Funny it are always those that have absolutely zero knowledge about the subject that say how something is hard or easy or how ' no skill' is needed.
( Also, dying at the ' those shoes just look painful to wear ' especially because it comes from an anime fan. All their clothing are SO PRACTICAL )
Loving this picture! The colours are so gorgeous here as well... And Ifa Brand <3
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How is this sexual posed person art? And how did THIS get a DD?! Kids leik me are on here FYI!
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Explain to me how this is different from softcore porn? And those shoes just look painful to wear. I mean, I might be asexual, but I appreciate a good tits of tits, but Idopnt' see how that is art. And before you say it's not about that, the model would not be laying in a clearly sexual pose, in clearly sexual, seductive clothing.
If you want to hide this comment, fine, but I am sick of seeing pictures like this on the front page instead of artistic nudity. I just want to know why it's on the front page or considering art.
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Your points are very well spoken and have great merit, Please think of the idea that art is in the eye of the beholder. In the strictest sense, the very definition of "ART: something that is created with imagination and skill and that is beautiful or that expresses important ideas or feelings." Some express themselves with paint and canvas, some with pencil and paper, some with molded clay, etc. Some create works that make you happy and excited, while others bring out a much darker feeling, even one of disgust in some aspects. There are expensive works, hanging in every major museum in the world that someone, somewhere, doesn't think is art. The impressionistic era of paintings were long thought of as mere trash and even now much of the modern viewers will never "get" the concept.
This photo at hand, took much of what's in the definition, imagination of the photographer to set everything up, the skill of lighting, depth of field, color correction, ability to guide the model and have everything come together in one photo. He/She probably took 100s of photos to get this one. And in the definition, did it express ideas or feelings, YES, even if they are sexual in nature, you got a feeling of arousal and seduction, exactly what it was trying to portray.
Just because you don't care to see, or like that this is on the front page, and as of now has earned a "Daily Deviation" by the DA staff for outstanding art piece, does not mean that it isn't art. Art is a subjective topic. Just go to most any MODERN art gallery and you will find much that pushes the envelope of the term ART. At some point I would love to take photos like this, instead of my flowers and butterflies, and I know how difficult it will be to set up and execute.....and I HOPE someday, that it elicits a conversation as to what it is.....because that means it's making people think, and if your thinking and expressing, then it has expressed and important idea or feeling and I would have succeeded as an artist.
Keep up the great work Paige, and Naoko, keep people thinking!!!
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Just how is this even close to porn? Do you think a woman is a slut when her ankles are exposed?
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What a wonderfully unoriginal and narrow-minded response. the subject matter is clearly sexual, and not in the form of education or far of a piece of fiction (and even then, fiction can still be porn when the sex is not plot essential or casually mentioned). That is pornographic. People can enjoy such a thing, but put it on a website where it belongs instead of flooding this site with more of it.
The outfit is clearly meant to frame the body in a sexual manner, otherwise it was not be so short and the neckline would not expose her breasts and the pose would not be alluring, almost teasing. And before you reply with the typical response, there is a difference between natural nudity and sexual nudity. Once again, the subject is wearing clothing clearly meant to frame the body in a sexual, alluring, almost teasing manner is sexual nudity. That is pornographic. A very soft kind, but something made to arouse nonetheless. People can enjoy such a thing, but put it on a website where it belongs instead of flooding this site with more of it.
And before you reply with the typical response, there is a difference between natural nudity and sexual nudity. Once again, the subject is wearing clothing clearly meant to frame the body in a sexual, alluring, almost teasing manner is sexual nudity. A woman standing on a scallop trying to hide her naturalness shows shyness and perhaps vulnerability. Nudity can also represent purity and innocence, such as in the painting "Glad Day". Finally, it can represent a person being in touch with nature, or liberated from earthy things, or power.
It all depends on the clothing, the pose, the environment, the meaning.
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"The outfit is clearly meant to frame the body in a sexual manner"
So is 90% of the clothing people wear every fucking day.
Troll will be troll until trollpocalypse.
And yes, you are a troll, no matter how well-eductated you try to make yourself appear to be.
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I do not agree that modern art should be called art. From what I see of it, it's all drivel which is an insult to great pieces of art everywhere. That doesn't mean for one moment that it's not seen as art in the eyes of others.
The model is a beautiful woman, regardless of the pose, it's nicely composed to insinuate provocation without being vulgar. In many ways, both the male and female bodies are, in their own way, already a work of art, so why not allow something that even verges on softcore porn to be considered artistic? There's a fair amount of hardcore stuff that does it artistically.
Not agreeing with something does not make it any less artistic.
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Well, fan art and prose can be art if done well, since, like art of before, it is celebration of the subject (for the most part). However, I do agree.
I am not saying it is 'vulgar'. But a sexual image is a sexual image. It has no deep meaning, it is not celebrating anything meaningful, it is not mean to elicit anything other than arousal. You can show a beautiful person without it being sexual. And I fail to see how hardcore porn can be artistic.
Something is not automatically artistic because it took effort. People can see things like this as art all they like, but it is not. Neither is any painting of the past which was meant to display sexuality in a non-education or romantic manner.
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You said yourself that you consider yourself 'A-sexual'. Realistically, you do not look at yourself then as having any interest in sex... If you have no interest in it, of course you are not going to find something you like about art related to the subject.
Also, I didn't mention anything about effort. Something can indeed be made artistic purely by composition alone. But, like I have said, you do not have to see it as art because you do not enjoy sex. For the vast majority of the human race, sex is something celebrated. For one, it's symbolic of the creation of life. If that's not something to celebrate, then nothing is.
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Some sexual people don't like erotic pieces either. It makes them hypocrites (but who is not one?), but it still happens. However, the creation of life aspect is the good, as it is a wonderful, beautiful thing. So if sex if it is it meant to show the connection between the subjects in the piece. However, a piece that is made purely to display sexuality, with no higher meaning, is not art, in my opinion.
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This clearly sexual pose, in this clearly seductive clothing being clearly softcore porn is your own interpretation based on your own preferences and perception.
Ifa certainly knows how to throw that femme fatale look, but I fail to see where porn or vulgarity comes into play here.
Either way, who made any claims about trying to make "art"? I certainly didn't.
I like lingerie, I like the classic dame look, and I like pretty shoes that are impossible to walk in. So we've put that all together to make a pretty picture. Simple.
Luckily for you the next day brings a new batch of DD's so you won't have to look upon this photo anymore 
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I'm not saying it's vulgar. I'm just saying it is sexual and something that is sexual is not art. I'm not one of those people who think if if arouses than it is automatically porn (there plenty of things which are not sexual, but people are clearly aroused by). I see what you mean about the femme fatale or dame, but it does not excuse what it is and what that kind of character that is.
I wish we could see more male models in contexts such as this, not because of some bullshit 'objectification', 'feminism', but because it would be interesting and a more artistic piece.
Well, then why did you post it here? I guess because about half of DA is this anyway.
I'm not saying you should stop or anything arsehole-ish like that. Oh, there will be another one and the day after that there will be more, and then more. However, if DA sees a hint of sexuality in a picture of male nude/sexual piece, it's not even going on here, whiloe easy things like this get piles of views and praise. Yes, I understand the work that can go into a single picture, but the subject is still easy and quick to conjure.
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Your premise is false. "Something that is sexual is not art" is your own opinion and not fact. I'm sorry, you lose. Have a nice day. Actually, don't have a nice day because you're a shitty troll who doesn't deserve anything nice.
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Again, I've never claimed this was trying to be art, so why are you still hammering on it.
You say you understand all the effort that went into the photo. Yet in the same breath you discredit everything else about the photo (such as technique, post-processing, the models skills) because the subject is cheap and easy to you.
You may be tired of the same old same old hogging the spotlight all the time, but I won't stand for any disrespect towards my model, or the time and effort she and I spent on this shoot.
If you don't like the front page, then I'd suggest you find some artists that you do appreciate and only keep an eye on your watch list from now on.
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I'm not 'hammering'. Then once again, why did you put it on this site?
Ahahaha! "Skills"? What 'skills'? Models are not 'skilled'. The only skill they have is the ability to stay in a certain pose for long periods of time. Everything else is done by another person or their natural beauty. Work which takes thinking or strength is skilful. Editing, Painting, drawing, and writing are skilful.
Well, I don't care. I will 'disrespect' whatever I like, and I am not disrespecting your effort. I am allowed my opinion. And to response to what you said to another person, I am not 'insulting' you by stating the fact that that is a form of porn. I am not saying that porn does not have it's place in the world, but is not here, and it was only made people by horny people.
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I wouldn't say there's any need to justify your work to anyone. There are no rules against posting this kind of work and it can hardly be considered your 'fault' that it gets nominated to the front page lol.
As with all things in the art world, there will always be those who disagree.
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Thank you
I don't mind a little banter between 2 different opinions, as long as one opinion isn't trying to push as the only right opinion. Which is exactly what seems to be happening here though.
Neither do I appreciate the whole I'm-not-trying-to-insult stance while at the same time "this is porn" towards my work, and "easy" towards my model have been thrown around already.
I am very much done with the discussion now.
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I wouldn't let it get to you. There will always be folk who are quick to throw judgemental comments around.
It's not the type of photography I myself would shoot, but that doesn't stop me from respecting the work. I think that's where a lot of people go wrong.
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Some of my friends will kill for those.
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Your amazing work has been featured here: Hell on Heels
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