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Published: 2016-07-23 18:45:27 +0000 UTC; Views: 3133; Favourites: 63; Downloads: 15
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Description An edifice is a word for a tall structure. what better word is there for these lightning rod lizards?
G. Brancai is the face of Brachiosaurus. If you see a Brachiosaurus in media, it is most likely a Giraffatitan. so, in an ironic sense the Brachiosaurus that is so famous, is not even a Brachiosaurus anymore..... 
remind anyone of a certain 'Velociraptor' antirihoppus?

Disclaimer: I do not take credit for the skeletal references used as bases for the silhouettes I make.
The brachiosaurus is based on Scott Hartman's Brachiosaurus, and the Giraffatitan is based on Paleoking's new reconstruction of Girafatitan.

a big thanks to
without his help, I would not have known that berachiosaurus could get larger than the type specimens

-update 7/24/16-
giraffatitan  and chart height increased 
a big thank you to

-update 7/29/16-
brachiosaurus has been updated in terms of height
a big thank you to 

there is now an alt of this chart:
paleop.deviantart.com/art/Batt…
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Comments: 71

Paleop In reply to ??? [2016-08-01 22:09:42 +0000 UTC]

but was it brachiosaurus?
and I could make an alt to accommodate it

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bricksmashtv In reply to Paleop [2016-08-01 22:12:45 +0000 UTC]

Lol yes Lapparent & Zbyszewski originally described it as Brachiosaurus atalaiensis paleoglot.org/files/Lapp&Z…

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Paleop In reply to bricksmashtv [2016-08-02 03:50:08 +0000 UTC]

I will edit it

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bricksmashtv In reply to Paleop [2016-08-02 04:05:47 +0000 UTC]

ok cool. Can't wait to see it!

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Paleop In reply to bricksmashtv [2016-08-02 14:36:52 +0000 UTC]

it will be a while

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bricksmashtv In reply to Paleop [2016-08-02 15:39:38 +0000 UTC]

Of course, great art always takes time. No matter, I'm sure you'll get it right!

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Paleop In reply to bricksmashtv [2016-08-07 17:51:54 +0000 UTC]

as in "I might forget about it" kind of while

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bricksmashtv In reply to Paleop [2016-08-07 18:49:43 +0000 UTC]

lol it's okay

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Princetarbos [2016-07-31 00:39:22 +0000 UTC]

Giaffatitan's tail seems short.

was it really that short?

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Paleop In reply to Princetarbos [2016-07-31 00:52:08 +0000 UTC]

according to paleoking

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Princetarbos In reply to Paleop [2016-07-31 01:39:00 +0000 UTC]

interesting. Thanks!

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vasix [2016-07-29 00:53:32 +0000 UTC]

The walking skyscrapers Also get a load of this? How come not many people were all over this paper when it came out the same way Carr and Brusatte's tyrannosaur phylogeny paper got out? Look at the placement of Alamosaurus in particular...doesn't that seem rather...odd...? www.tandfonline.com/na101/home…  also here's the paper in case you need it. I'm not really sure what's going on here though. www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/1…

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Paleop In reply to vasix [2016-07-29 18:55:07 +0000 UTC]

so, according to the paper alamo is a member of Lognkosauria. IIRC puerta was a Lognkosaur too. considering the rows of osteo-spikes Lognkosaurs could all have had that trait...

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vasix In reply to Paleop [2016-07-31 01:05:46 +0000 UTC]

Looks that way. Puertasaurus is a lognkosaur, and so is Ruyangosaurus from Asia ( maybe Asia's largest dinosaur by way of mass and hell, simply by being a lognkosaur, and unfortunately not known from a massive quantity of bones either. Nima's written a little about it but that's about it-paleoking.blogspot.com/2011/11… scroll down for that and other really large Asian titans). Goodbye saltasaur Alamosaurus, which is an odd thing to say aloud, now that I saw the cladogram there. 

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Paleop In reply to vasix [2016-07-31 18:15:46 +0000 UTC]

sadly Ruyangosaurus has no skelitals
any recommendations for a base skelital?

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bricksmashtv In reply to Paleop [2016-08-24 01:31:09 +0000 UTC]

Wish granted! Just finished this one: bricksmashtv.deviantart.com/ar…

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Paleop In reply to bricksmashtv [2016-08-24 03:57:22 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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bricksmashtv In reply to Paleop [2016-08-24 04:00:22 +0000 UTC]

No problem!

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vasix In reply to Paleop [2016-08-01 00:40:36 +0000 UTC]

There are no skeletal diagrams of Ruyangosaurus anywhere, and only a few life restorations (few meaning few good, and few good meaning like, four or five that I know of). The best person to talk to about this is Nima, really. If you really would like to make a skeletal I would suggest using other lognkosaurs as your base for this one, Other than that, I'm pretty clueless about R.giganteus. Pity because the proportions Nima lists make it sound somewhat odder than most. Anyway he does use a 38-meter Puertasaurus length in his scaling of Ruyangosaurus in the blog post (that is, IF Ruyangosaurus was even proportioned like Puertasaurus to begin with). 

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XStreamChaosOfficial [2016-07-25 04:18:12 +0000 UTC]

Oh wow! O.O

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Paleop In reply to XStreamChaosOfficial [2016-07-25 15:47:23 +0000 UTC]

indeed, girarffatitan was tall enough to look puertasaurus in the eye

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Saberrex [2016-07-24 14:52:05 +0000 UTC]

I've read that some of the Brachiosaurus specimens in america were closer in appearance to Giraffatitan. Perhaps this means that Giraffatitan or another closely related brachiosaurid shared the Morrison with Brachiosaurus.

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Waldbeere In reply to Saberrex [2016-07-26 15:57:29 +0000 UTC]

Giraffatitan and Brachiosaurus look so similiar that they are confused with one another all the time. I still know some people that think they shouldn't be seperated from another.

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Saberrex In reply to Waldbeere [2016-07-26 16:14:53 +0000 UTC]

I can understand that, but the autapomorphies between the two species are too great to keep them together.

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Waldbeere In reply to Saberrex [2016-07-26 16:42:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I know. That comment was to show you that it's unlikely that there were Giraffatitan living alongside Brachiosaurus.

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Saberrex In reply to Waldbeere [2016-07-27 23:19:05 +0000 UTC]

who knows? maybe they did, or at least an extremely close relative of Giraffatitan.

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Waldbeere In reply to Saberrex [2016-07-28 07:55:14 +0000 UTC]

It's unlikely for another species to take the same niche in an ecosystem. If Brachiosaurus already was the local high-browser it probably didn't have any competition.
But it's not impossible. Just look at the sheer amount of Apex Preadators we find in the Kem Kem beds. Spinosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus, Bahariasaurus, Sarcosuchus, Stomatosuchus and maybe Sigilmassasaurus too if it's really representing S. marrocanus.

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Saberrex In reply to Waldbeere [2016-07-28 15:04:14 +0000 UTC]

Ah, but you forget niche partitioning to help decrease competition. 

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Waldbeere In reply to Saberrex [2016-07-29 22:58:41 +0000 UTC]

I have no idea what's the word for niche partioning in my language so I had too google it in english and therefore I'm not sure if I understood it correctly. But if I did I don't think that would work with two animals so closely related to each other. They would most likely eat the same food and not search for diferent tree species to feed on.

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Saberrex In reply to Waldbeere [2016-07-29 23:17:40 +0000 UTC]

Two animals may share the same environment and may prefer different foods or have different habits; example: a hawk-owl hunts by day while a great horned owl hunts at night. It could be that one of the two brachiosaurids, should there prove to be two in the Morrison, was likely feeding on more a varied diet or had different activity patterns than the other. That way, they could coexist without competing. There are also two species of Brachosaurid from Tendaguru; Giraffatitan and the "Archbishop", an as-yet unnamed Brachiosaur that lived alongside it. That is another example of niche partitioning.

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Waldbeere In reply to Saberrex [2016-07-30 12:35:29 +0000 UTC]

Ah, now I know what you meant. What material do we have from that other braciosaurid?

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Saberrex In reply to Waldbeere [2016-07-30 18:49:03 +0000 UTC]

I believe it is a partial skeleton. The tail on this animal is extremely short, if I remember right. 

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XStreamChaosOfficial [2016-07-24 06:19:10 +0000 UTC]

Finally! Someone does the head right!

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Paleop In reply to XStreamChaosOfficial [2016-07-24 14:57:06 +0000 UTC]

#thickenthenecks  
#addmelons

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XStreamChaosOfficial In reply to Paleop [2016-07-24 19:55:52 +0000 UTC]

Lol wut

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Paleop In reply to XStreamChaosOfficial [2016-07-24 20:02:33 +0000 UTC]

just hashtag ideas...

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XStreamChaosOfficial In reply to Paleop [2016-07-24 21:07:08 +0000 UTC]

Watermelons lol

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Paleop In reply to XStreamChaosOfficial [2016-07-24 22:43:01 +0000 UTC]

Don't confuse toasters for watermelons

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XStreamChaosOfficial In reply to Paleop [2016-07-25 00:11:58 +0000 UTC]

How could tell the difference?

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Paleop In reply to XStreamChaosOfficial [2016-07-25 02:14:10 +0000 UTC]

randomdinos.deviantart.com/jou…

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XStreamChaosOfficial In reply to Paleop [2016-07-25 18:47:40 +0000 UTC]

By their necks?

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Paleop In reply to XStreamChaosOfficial [2016-07-25 19:07:50 +0000 UTC]

yep

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lemerart [2016-07-24 00:02:20 +0000 UTC]

RIP Lusotitan- loved by no one.

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randomdinos In reply to lemerart [2016-07-24 00:33:16 +0000 UTC]

We'll always remember Lusotitan as the guy who was accidentally an asshole in Dinosaur Revolution.

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Paleop In reply to lemerart [2016-07-24 00:27:53 +0000 UTC]

you know a dino has it rough when someone who can ist over a hundred dinosaur genre doesn't even remember it exists...

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camthecowboyman [2016-07-23 22:07:37 +0000 UTC]

The skulls look so different now

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Paleop In reply to camthecowboyman [2016-07-23 22:12:29 +0000 UTC]

the skulls are buried under allot of flesh

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camthecowboyman In reply to Paleop [2016-07-24 03:42:24 +0000 UTC]

I can see that now, haha.

Regardless of how this changes my perception, fantastic work!

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randomdinos [2016-07-23 19:16:36 +0000 UTC]

Edifice xD amazing

but I can't help but ask... is that Giraffatitan the type?

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Paleop In reply to randomdinos [2016-07-23 20:22:57 +0000 UTC]

it is scaled directly from Paleokings
edit: I have no idea

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