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exist thinks like guns, oh, minute... you forbade them.
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Did this really happen? If so give me details please.
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It really happened but I don't know any details about it.
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Well Obama did successfully defend the middle class tax cuts that the republicans opposed. You don't get into politics and expect to come out clean.
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Obama as a jedi "force ghost"? Interesting thought....
And in his defence, he's only human. One can't expect him to be able to cope with utter success with the entire mess his predecessors left him...
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Oh please. Obama put himself in his situation. I don't even get why he's raising taxes for the rich. How is that supposed to help?! Don't even say it was Bush's fault. Obama made so many bad decisions, and he could have resolved Bush's problems if he made the right ones.
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At least Obama doesn't hate women or people who lost their jobs.
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Obama supports people who hate conservative women, and if he wants to tax the rich then he obviously wants people to lose their jobs!
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Our Pres. is officially an idiot...
Good picture, by the way!
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a few months ago I would have disagreed with you.
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What changed your mind?
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His inability to stand up to the Republicans and his constant selling out to capitalists.
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Yeah, he's a coward. He won't even visit the troops during daylight hours, he destroyed our relations w/ Israel, and lies to us Americans all the time. Not to mention Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, or Obama didn't even BOTHER to read the health care bill. They're just too sleezy to be likable. They're all so into themselves too. Really annoying.
Most of the Republicans are corrupt too. No doubt about that. Most of them have taken some sort of bribe.
Actually, capitalism is a good thing. It's when businesses function w/o gov in it. When people are allow to both succeed AND fail so not everyone is paying for those on walfare and we don't "spread the wealth" which is stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. Obama acts like Robin Hood and God in one. It's socialism, which is the oposite of capitalism, you wanna watch out for. That's what dictators use. There is one law, and the people have no say in the government or pubilc affairs. It sucks.
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True he's not doing much for Israel US relations but he hasn't stopped them bulldozing Palestinian homes.
He has to read the health care bill he took so much out of it.
Capitalism is a good thing?
The three richest Americans have assets that exceed the combined gross domestic product of the 48 least developed countries is this a good thing?
I'm a Communist trust me Obama is no socialist the left (the far left mostly)has deserted Obama.
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Agreed comrade! All this 'Obama is a socialist' shit is annoying.
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Well, the Israelis actually own the land they are trying to build on, but the Arabs don't agree and try to run them off with bombs. Obama was supporting terror when he told Israel to stop building there. Not to mention the U.S. has no business in telling Israel what to do.
Capitalism lets people work for themselves, choose their career, and keeps people who don't bother to work from getting other people's money. It's a VERY good thing. It's freedom, and what America is about.
Those rich people worked for their money, and other people have less money due to the fact that they live in coutries that work against capitalism. Countries that support welfare, and people not being able to choose their own jobs. They are poor because the gov is crushing the freedom from them. They could have the chance to be just as wealthy but they are without freedom.
You're a commi? So, you support putting those who don't work on welfare, the gov controlling the schools, and pretty much EVERY aspect of the citizens lives. This includes what they eat, where they live, whether they are allowed to bare arms, and what knowledge they are allowed to possess. You don't think that's good, do yah? People should be free to learn, live, and believe however they please as long as they don't impose themselves on the rights of others.
If most of the far left has deserted Obama, why is Nancy still around. also Harry Reid is still by his side, along with all Obama's "green Czars". They're far from moderate left. Many of the Democrats have left him, but they were pretty moderate. It's the unconstitutionality of the whole bill that drove them away, I'd say.
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They don't own the land it was given to the Palestinians by the UN in 1948 after which each side has fought over it. Yes the Palestinians have killed Israelis but what they kill is nothing compares to what the IDF can do maybe you missed the Gaza 'war' last year but it looked very one sided to me. Obama is hardly supporting Hamas or the PLO by asking them stop building.
Capitalism forces people to sell they labour to the Capitalists It only lets a small number of people make their own way.
The rich don't work for their money they make others make it for them.
All Scandinavian counties and most European counties have a welfare plan and they are some of the richest counties in the world plus they don't have a PATRIOT Act crushing they freedom.
I support giving welfare to those can't work, not those won't all past Socialist states had very low or nonexistent unemployment.
Why shouldn't the government supply it's citizens with a free education.
that funny coming from a conservative you advocate smaller government, but firmly support laws regulating what consenting adults do in their bedrooms, who can get married or adopt, what people can put into their own bodies, what health decisions a woman can make, who can choose to end their lives, and what languages can be spoken in government buildings so don't talk to me about controlling people's lives.
Nancy Pelosi Harry Reid are hardly far left the Democratic Party isn't even on the left.
And may I point out your constitution was written over 200 years age by people a number of who were slave owners, that lived in a very different world than the one we live in now.
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Obama is taking sides by telling the Israelis to comply with the Palestinians demands. That land has always been Israel's and I doubt they'd give it to the UN just so it could pass it on to their worst enemies.
Those people are not FORCED to work in capitalism. They choose to work, and if they do they get payed for it. That's a good thing. Any number of people can choose to make a living for themselves, and be independent, free individuals.
The rich are rich because they worked for their money. They have the freedom to work and make money for themselves. This includes running their own companies, and employ those who need and want work. The people them employ aren't slaves, but are FREE to leave whenever they choose.
China and Japan are two of the worlds richest countries, but that does not mean the people living there are. People who live in countries like that live in extremes; the extremely poor and extremely rich. There is no in between. In communistic countries people are stuck as poor if they are born poor, and cannot make their own way in the world. There is no freedom. There is no such thing as a free education. All money the gov has for education is taxed outta the people. They don't just have some magical stash. "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." ~ Margret Thatcher
Although I am against gay marriage, and believe it should be only between a man and a woman, I don't care if people are gay. I just am against paying for them to BE gay, and the citizens being taxed to pay for the fight against AIDS that those gay people contracted by sleeping with someone of the same sex. Abortion in murder. Killing a child is wrong, and whether it a single sperm, or a child ready to be born, it's killing a potential person. If those people didn't want the child then they should be more careful when sleeping with others. Accidents do happen, but what would be the harm in putting them up for adoption rather than killing them? If people wish to come to the U.S. they should learn to speak the language. we have a national language, so speak it. It's that way in all countries, communist or FREE.
If Polosi and Reid aren't far left, then what IS? If the Democrats aren't even on the left, the who IS?
That's OUR constitution, and it's a timeless piece of work created by men who were inspired by freedom, and still felt the sting of communism from their old king. It is never too old. Our rights will never be outdated, and freedom is never out of style. Please take a gander at WHO abolished slavery: Abe Lincoln, that of whom was a Republican, and loved our constitution. Slavery was brought from England, and it was not the American way. Lincoln established that fact.
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The original idea for Israel put forward by the UN was that both the Israelis and Palestinians would have their far share of land this something the PLO and Hamas are willing to talk about but ever time they sign a peace deal the Israelis rip it up and flout UN resolutions remeber Yasser Arafat said
I come bearing an olive branch in one hand, and the freedom fighter's gun in the other. Do not let the olive branch fall from my hand.
The Israeli government hasn't so much as let the olive branch fall but more kicked it out of his hand.
capitalism is Slavery to survive it must maintain a class of owners and a class of the owned, or workers.
The rich man's dog gets more in the way of vaccination, medicine and medical care than do the workers upon whom the rich man's wealth is built.
Samora Machel
In a communist states there is no rich and no poor everone gets what they need.
And don't quote Margret Thatcher or as I like to call her Pinochet's whore.
Give me one good (and I mean good)reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. plus why are you willing to let for two people of different gender get married but not two people of the same gender what about two people of different race should they be allowed to marry.
And there are alot of Sexually transmitted disease out there which heterosexuals can get as well aren you willing to be taxed to pay for the fight against them?
This something else about you CONservatives you will fight for the child while it's in the womb but once they are born theey are on their own remember you don't like welfare so you think the Parents shouldn't get help to rase their baby.
here's video for you
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This should give you a better idea for were the Democrats are
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If I remember the British abolished slavery long before the US did and the British never had Jim Crow laws.
yeah your right and freedom to kill native americans and steal their land your right to fund terrorists and murder democratically elected leaders because they don't want to be puppets of the United States.
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Most if the info you've provided for Israel is of opinion, and I'm not gonna bother with it. We agree to disagree on that one.
Please read what I wrote about capitalism before attempting to combat it. It does make sense and is true.
I'll quote who I like, thanks.
People can marry a tree for all I care, just don't tax us for their problems when we don't agree with what they do. I don't care if they're purple, don't tax us for them! Thats what I'm getting at.
I fight for life not to pry money from people's fists every time someone decides to have a kid. If someone wants a child, they should support it for themselves. That video is a a simple rant. Yeah, there are people who get raped and people who don't take care of their kids! It's called adoption! It works, and it doesn't involve murder.
Just because your graph says they're not on the left doesn't make it so. Notice some spaces don't even have anyone in them; supposedly no one exists to fill those spaces?
The pilgrims still brought it over from England. If you wanna talk time, England held onto slavery much longer than the U.S. Slavery goes WAY back.
Killing Indians was wrong, and I disagree with that. No country holds a perfect record, but most countries don't bother to improve themselves like the U.S. It's been quite some time since an Indian has been shot in this country last time I checked. How do we fund terrorists?
As far as I can tell, this argument is going no where. You don't wanna change nor do I.
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Fine I agree to disagree
my great grandfather lost his three middle fingers when a when they switched the machine he was clearing back on, and he had a young family didn't get any compensation from the company that owned the factory or the government.
if culture is so much stronger then class why wasn't he helped.
and he is just one of millions and millions who every year are thrown in the street when they can't make money
That is capitalism.
Tell are you willing to have 50% of your tax used to build weapons.
yeah dumb the kid at an orphanage thats very kind. you should hear some the stories that kids who go through that system here is two videos with are in part about this
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And tell me are you pro war and pro death penalty if so don't tell to me about murder.
England never used slaves true we did play a great role in the Atlantic slave trade but we never used slaves in England.
The US hasn't improved itself it just pull it's killing fields over seas remember Korea? Vietnam?
Iraq? Afghanistan?
How do you fund terrorists? lets see
The Mujahideen of Afghanistan
UNITA of Angola
Contras of Nicaragua
Apartheid government of South Africa
and may more!
Here is a graph with more people.
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Very well, we disagree.
First of all, i don't wanna be taxed at all, but some things need taxing. That would be taxes for paying the military, creating public facilities, and that IT! Everything else should be handled by the People themselves. If you want it, buy it yourself. Nobody else wants to pay for you to smoke, or get AIDS.
I'm not gonna sweeten it, life sucks sometimes. None the less, we can't depend on the gov to step in and fix everything every friggin' time we have a problem. Part of becoming a strong people, and nation is learning to take care of oneself.
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Your willing to pay to pull holes in people but not patch them up very humane.
If you don't want to be taxed fine just don't expect your mail to come your roads to be repaired your food to be safe to eat, your childs school to be free, the Police to enforce the law.
When you say the people don't you mean the bosses.
life isn't easy but it can be made better.
only by helping each other can we help our selfs.
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Did you ever bother to think about why people fight? We fight for freedom, and that's a good reason.
You didn't read what I wrote did you? If you did, that would not be your response. This argument is pointless unless both people read the opposing sides views.
The gov doesn't always have the people's best interest in mind. I wouldn't trust them as much as you do.
Yes, helping each other, not letting the gov mess with our lives. Citizens can be strong, educated, and the very backbone of a country if the gov gets out of the way.
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Yeah you fight for freedom... freedom to oppress.
Yes much of the time the goverment have the people's best interests in mind but I would rather trust the goverment then a private for profit individual who only has personal interest in mind.
If you remember the bottom dropped out of the economy because of the lack of regulation plus you are more then willing to let the goverment mess with people's lives justr as long as it's not yours.
How to most people get an education, by goverment payed schools!
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Oh yeah, because Hitler fought against oppression didn't he.
Have it your way. Gov is out for itself. Power corrupts.
IT WAS TOO MUCH REG.
You and I aren't going to see eye to eye anytime soon... Wanna just drop it?
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If you remember the British Soviets and Chinese had been fighting the Axis a long time before you stepped in.
And I wasn't talking about world war 2 I was talking wars Like Vietnam Iraq and Afghanistan.
What regulation are you on about!
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Yeah, and they aren't any better. The Chinese took people off the rice patties, forced them to build for the Olympics, and them just sent them back to the patties without even paying them. Does that sound like freedom or forced labor to you?
I was about to ask you the same question.
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I never said the Chinese goverment was any better I'm not a supporter of the 'Communist' Party of China
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What difference is there in the Chinese communism and communism anywhere else?! There is none. Communism only works for those in power.
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The CPC has abandoned communism.
There main different types of communism
there is Marxism Leninism Marxism-Leninism Trotskyism Maoism Luxemburgism Hoxhaism Titoism Eurocommunism Prachanda path Anarcho-communism and Christian communism.
Every socialist state in history has given it's citizens free heath care and a free high standard of education and women are given more rights then many in the so called free world. something the good old freedom lovin USA hasn't given it citizens.
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You don't connect with my views and I fail to do so for yours. So be it.
Now, if I'm not mistaken, you're from the UK. Why do you care about ANYTHING that's going on over in the US? You don't know what it's like to live here. I'm a non-wealthy citizen and LOVE this country. If this country was so horrible in the way it runs, then why do you think so many people migrate over here from other countries? Why do you think people DIED trying to get here, or put their lives on the line in some way? BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY IS GREAT, AS IS THE FREEDOM IT HOLDS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN STAY WHERE YOU ARE.
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Yes I'm from the the United Kingdom but why shouldn't I care about the US we all live on the same planet.
Your right I wouldn't know what it would it is like to live in a country were 25% of the opposition believe the President is the antichrist or were people are scared of the idea of Universal health care.
You know the saying the grass is always greener on the other side, people who go to the States think that but when they get there they see the green grass is owned by only a few people.
As Vladimir Lenin once said
Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners.
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True Americans love freedom and want to keep it. People immigrate here for a reason.
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Americans love freedom aa long as it's for white male christians.
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Sorry sir, but I'm female. I fight for myself AND others. I have friends of many different races, and treat them just the same anyone else. People are respected based on their content of character, as it should be. If you're a thief, rapist, or murderer, then you can forget respect and go to jail where you THEN lack your freedom. Rightly so, I might add.
Where have you gathered your views of the U.S.?
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If you truly fight for everyone then you would be a socialist or a lest a social democratic our whole ideology is based on egalitarianism.
I agree that People should respected based on their content of character not by they race.
I got my view from the history of the United States from textbooks and history books those should be hard to come by now after what the texas board of education did.
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Okay, let's put aside all these party names, and look at things as they are. You and I agree people should be respected based on character. Removing the blindfold of politics and parties from it all, I think it's safe to say we may agree on quite a few things. Basic morals, if people really look inside and question themselves are all the same. You and I both agree that those who commit crimes should be punished for it, I assume. You probably think that it's good to be truthful with one and other, attempt to find things in common with each other regardless of race or outlook on life, protect those you care about, and treat others as you wish to be treated. About right? We aren't so different. We are looking for the same things, but attempting to reach our goals in different ways. We both want peace, freedom, and truth. We want safety for the citizens of our countries, and want justice brought to those who put our country in danger.
Textbooks: It really depends on which books you read. Different companies attempt to push different views on their readers. Sometimes half truths or complete lies are printed. Always look for the truth on your own terms, and let no one tell you what to think. Find proof for yourself. I think a lot of textbooks make the U.S. look like crap because that's the way the writer felt. Texas was not putting anything new in the text, but only preserving what existed. Schools are attempting to take God out as well as rip our Founders right out of the picture. Our first president, George Washington, is hardly mentioned anymore, nor is our Constitution.
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I agree on all but one point 'our countries' to me there are no nations only borders I what all people to be united in building a better world.
Most textbooks have some form of bias but some have more bias then other.
I thought one of main ideas of the founding of the United States the idea of a Secular state where no one religion could dominate.
George Washington isn't likely to be forgotten nor is the US Constitution but one point when it was talking about the right to bear arms couldn't have been talking the right to a pair of bear arms rather then firearms?
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So, you're thinking a one world government would work? I beg to differ, because people don't have the same goals so there would always be someone who was not being listened to. People should work together, but I don't think the government should lead it. The government has show that it can put us trillions of dollars in debt, decide what goes into our textbooks, and offend our friends including the UK. I don't think they are going to do much better if they has total control.
The main idea was "Freedom OF religion." not from. So, basically you can't demand that any one religion be removed from your life, school, ect. But you can choose any religion you should wish to have and express it freely as long as it does not impose on the rights of others. Bear Arms: Funny joke but it makes no sense. What reason would our Framers have for providing the citizens w/ bear arms? Our law is open to inturpretation, so if the judge can push such a thing, and get the jury to agree on it, then we get bear arms! None the less, I doubt that would ever happen, considering that bear arms are hardly helpful to any sort of milita which is nessessary to the freedom of a state and legalized in our constitution.
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Yes a world State could work It would have the same framework of the United States (ie a federal state)or a modernized version of the Soviet Union just much bigger.
The Goverment would play a role in people's lives but only so far.
you could hit terrorists with bear arms
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It sounds like a good plan, but if that one world nation were to fall, that would be everything. No one and nothing to carry. It would all be over if anything went wrong.
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If it failed I guess the world would just break up into the old states.
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Maybe, depending on how different things had become by that time. People might be so used to others taking care of them, they might just die off, not knowing how to fend for themselves. Not to mention, it would be a real headache trying to organize new communities after something like that. There would be all kinds of people trying to take power, and you wouldn't know who to trust. It would just be REALLY bad.
I say, let the free market do it's thing. Allow those to fail who will fail, and those to succeed who will succeed. Nations have fallen and risen for as long as there ever were any, and it's worked pretty well so far.
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