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So are you saying that there's one big conspiracy that is the reason for all the worlds evils?
Having looked through your works, read your comments and descriptions, I find you to have separated people into two camps. 'With us, or against us' so to speak.
If you would please treat this as a serious question, I'd be very grateful.
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HAILOLOL I KNOW U 2. ZOMG BFFL.
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. . .Alright listen. . .I'm so sick and tired of hearing people make the assumption that "OMG ALL PAGANS WORSHIP SATAN AND MAKE LIVING SCRIFIEZ THEY R EVIL!"
I am a pagan. If you ever did ANY research into what paganism really IS you'd probably find our Rede saying as follows: Do what ye will but harm none.
Now tell me something. How can someone make a living sacrifice or - really even KILL anything - if they're to follow that rule?
Pagan's are NOT the blood bathing, evil satan worshipers that the media makes us out to be. If you're going to dive into this shit at least back up yourself with research from both sides so you know what the hell you're talking about. Only doing research looking up biased angles are going to get you biased answers. Look at it from our side too not just the hate spewing "OMG EVIL PAGANZ BURN THEMS!!1!!!!11" resources.
Not doing proper research makes you look like an ASS - which you've kinda accomplished here.
I won't lie to you and say that I know all about the freemasons - because I don't. I don't know anything about masonic stuff but you know I really wouldn't doubt it if Walt started putting subtle hints in his movies as a little joke for those that understood what it meant. I could also understand why he went pagan after all, the majority of hate spewing people I know are absolutely wonderful Christians.
Eitherway. Do your fucking research.
Blessed Be - and please burn in your own hell,
A pagan girl <3
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The media rather portrays paganism as a nice thing. In fact, it encourages it by all means.
If you truly study the roots of paganism, the real pagans do sacrifice and that's an undenyable fact. Period. Study ancient history.
For the record, you believe what you want, I couldn't care less. But I DO know what I am talking about.
George W. Bush is a pagan. Hitler was a pagan. Every pope and Roman emperors that ever lived were pagans. All of which were bloody murderers.
If you fallow the roots of paganism, you will get to Babylon and in Babylon, they sacrificed babies. FACT.
In ancient Rome, they celebrated the pagan holiday people call "christmas" by setting a huge log on fire which represented a penis for 12 days and then sacrificed a human on it and participated in sex orgies which the children had to participate in.
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The media rather portrays paganism as a nice thing. In fact, it encourages it by all means.
Probably becuase in this country we have this thing called freedom of religion. I personally sick of Christians like you polluting up our airways with your propaganda and bullshit like this. But it's your right to and I can't do anything about it.
If you truly study the roots of paganism, the real pagans do sacrifice and that's an undenyable fact. Period. Study ancient history
Also. In the roots of Christianity, Christians also sacrificed and you cannot deny that, almost every world religion aside from Hinduism and Buddhism offered sacrifices at one point are another. Modern Christianity preaches self sacrifice in the name of god.
For the record, you believe what you want, I couldn't care less. But I DO know what I am talking about.
No. You don't. Try taking the bible out of your ass.
George W. Bush is a pagan. Hitler was a pagan
So you just call anyone you don't like a pagan? I don't like you, so you must be a pagan. King George is some kind of Protestant. Hilter was more of an atheist.
Every pope and Roman emperors that ever lived were pagans.
Most of the Roman Emperors viewed themselves as gods. But Popes? Popes as the leads of the CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CRIST. Popes didn't even come into power until the fall of Rome.
All of which were bloody murderers.
But more people have died in the name of Christianity than any other religion. Your religion has brought death.
In ancient Rome, they celebrated the pagan holiday people call "Christmas" by setting a huge log on fire which represented a penis for 12 days and then sacrificed a human on it and participated in sex orgies which the children had to participate in.
Oh really? And I'm sure your preacher told you this. Even if it was true, it was one cult. One cult. Romans practiced freedom of religion. That means any cult could worship whatever god they wanted as long as they paid tribute and sacrifice to the emperor. It's also funny that Rome didn't fall in the time of the orgies, but during the of Christian reign.
You are either a world class troll or epic faggot.
Do you're research retard. Also, before you start comparing someone to Hitler, look in a mirror. Your statements are filled with lies, propaganda, a faggotry. I can't even begin to amass the lies you are feeding these people. It's sickening.
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I love how people get so agitated with truth.
-Probably becuase in this country we have this thing called freedom of religion. I personally sick of Christians like you polluting up our airways with your propaganda and bullshit like this. But it's your right to and I can't do anything about it.
Answer:If you studied history properly, you would know that the Bible is accurate perfectly. Scientist Sir William Ramsey decided to devote his time in proving that the Bible was wrong...He became a Christian because everything he investigated were so accurate. You don't have to believe it, that's fine. Christians have been the most prosecuted people in the world. Because the Vatican owns the education system now(through high level Freemasonry, Knights of Malta and Knights of Columbus, etc), we are no longer taught history in schools and are being lied to profusely. And now they have been teaching the most retarded religion in the whole world to kids in schools while we pay taxes for the, Darwinism(even himself was ashamed at the end of his life and said in a letter he wrote, "Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself whether I may have not devoted myself to a phantasy" -Charles Darwin(Charles Darwin, Life and letters, 1887, vol. 2 p.229) Darwin went on a boat trip where he started dabbling into witchcraft and this is what lead to his retarded book and the theory which all aspects of science refute(read The Evolution Handbook and you'll be ashamed to ever having believed any of this if you have))
Here's a small video for you that MAY open up your eyes at least a little bit.
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-Also. In the roots of Christianity, Christians also sacrificed and you cannot deny that, almost every world religion aside from Hinduism and Buddhism offered sacrifices at one point are another. Modern Christianity preaches self sacrifice in the name of god.
Answer: Christians sacrificed animals(NEVER humans) until the historical Jesus Christ came to fulfill over 300 prophecies of the Old Testament and be the ultimate sacrifice for the whole world and this is when the sacrifices ended(with the exception of some jews who denied that Jesus was the prophecised Massiah until the temple was destroyed by Rome). The Babylonians sacrificed human babies in the fire, some still sacrifice bagbies today and I have heard and read this from many valid sources who were on the inside. The paganism today roots from Babylon where queen semiramis gave birth to Tammuz on December 25th declaring that she was the queen of heaven and that her son was Nimrod's reincarnation and the sun god. She had people sacrifice babies to her. This power and cult was taken over by Medo-Persia, then Greece and then Rome and out of Rome came the "holy" Roman Empire(this was prophecised perfectly in the book of Daniel chapter 7 and it happened, this is basic history), the Vatican Empire still has the same means and cult as the Roman Empire like Greek, Medo-Persia and Babylon. So a pagan today is as much a Roman Catholic as anything else, he just does not realize it. There is a belief in high level Illuminism/Satanism/Catholicism that by sodomizing small children, one absorbs their youth and life and can enter different universes and become gods of that universe. This was confirmed to me by many different sources that were in the occult. You may want to watch seminars and read books by William Schnoebelen who was a 90th degree Freemason/Luciferian priest/Old Roman Catholic Bishop/witch/Black Magician and I have seen all of the certificates proving he was. You may want to look into some of Leo Zagami's material who was an Aristocrat 33rd degree Freemason who was to take over the P2 Lodge in Rome.
-No. You don't. Try taking the bible out of your ass.
So you just call anyone you don't like a pagan? I don't like you, so you must be a pagan. King George is some kind of Protestant. Hilter was more of an atheist.
Answer: You have made it 100% clear that you are clueless about any of this by now. Fact: You have zero knowledge of the Bible and it's history and yet you spew garbage out your mouth hole about it. You are a very naive person. George W. Bush like his father is a Masonic Skull & Bonesman(Formerly known as the Brotherhood of Death) and is 13th cousin to the Queen, a bloodline going back to Godfroi de Brouillon who was a crusader under Pope Gregory VII. The Skull & Bones is a PAGAN cult of worship of death(not unlike Catholicism), George Bush's father is also a Papal Knight of Malta and a member of the Golden Dawn Pagan cult. Adolf Hitler was a devout occultist and Catholic(many pictures to prove that, infact, his book was written by a Jesuit Priest). Hitler was a Freemason Darwinist(You can be a Catholic and Darwinist easily, most Catholic priests are including the pope, darwinism and the occult/paganism go together, infact, the theory of evolution came from spiritists and occulists).Hitler wanted to perform the ultimate sacrifice of 777,777,777 jews(According to William Schnoebelen in his book Lucifer Dethroned, something he was taught in the occult) Here's the Nazi Oath: [link]
The God they swear by is the Catholic god(which is a pagan god) and not the Biblical God.
What King George are you refering to?
-Most of the Roman Emperors viewed themselves as gods. But Popes? Popes as the leads of the CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CRIST. Popes didn't even come into power until the fall of Rome.
Answer: The Roman Emperors did vew themselves as gods. Constantine became the first pope in 312, the Roman Empire fell in the 500s and the "holy" Roman Empire became in power. Constantine was a pagan until his death, he changed all his pagan gods to Christian names. The Jesus of the Bible is NOT the Catholic Jesus, they are absolutely two different guys. One was born in Bethlehem(olive skin, green or brown eyes, short hair(Nazarenes cut their hair) and probably a full beard) and the Catholic Jesus(Tammuz/Horus/etc) is white skin, blue eyes, blond long hair and is portrayed in majority as a dead skinny man on a cross(the worship of death). Catholicism has NEVER been Christian, ever. In fact, the Inquisition was killing Bible Believing Christians for the most part and the rest were Jews.
-But more people have died in the name of Christianity than any other religion. Your religion has brought death.
That statement proves beyond any doubt that you are clueless about any of this. Sorry, I don't mean to sound mean but it's truth. First, your assumption that Catholicism is Christian is absolutely GROSSLY wrong. Catholicism goes against the Bible throughout and break most of the commandments in their practices and beliefs alone. FACT: The true Bible Believing Christians were the most prosecuted people throughout history. The Inquisition killed Bible Believing Christians who recognized the papacy as the spirit of the antichrist prophecised to come out of the Roman Empire and were killed in the most horrific ways you can think of. The Musslims still kill Christians today in Africa, Egypt, Asia(the cult of Islam was started by Augustinian Monks in North Africa for the pope with the purpose of claiming Jerusalem for the pope and killing the Christians, when Islam got Jerusalem, they kept it and the pope started the crusades). FACT: Anyone who kills in the name of Christ is not a Christian but the opposite PERIOD.
-Oh really? And I'm sure your preacher told you this. Even if it was true, it was one cult. One cult. Romans practiced freedom of religion. That means any cult could worship whatever god they wanted as long as they paid tribute and sacrifice to the emperor. It's also funny that Rome didn't fall in the time of the orgies, but during the of Christian reign.
Answer: No my preacher did not tell me this, a study of hitory did(a knowledge you have not obviously) The Romans did nos practice freedom of religion because they put the Christians in lion pits and burned them up in flames, the practice continued with the "holy" Roman Empire. The Roman Empire did not truely die, it changed and the means of the Vatican are the same as the Roman Empire, to have the pope as god of the world and ruler of all kings and this is what the two keys on the Vatican flag represent(Temporal Power and Apostolic Succession).d
-You are either a world class troll or epic faggot.
Do you're research retard.
Answer: Back at you actually...I'm the one here who knows a thing or two about this subject.
Also, before you start comparing someone to Hitler, look in a mirror. Your statements are filled with lies, propaganda, a faggotry. I can't even begin to amass the lies you are feeding these people. It's sickening.
Answer: hahahaha You're showed your true colors there. First you proved beyond any doubt that you were clueless of what you were speaking of and then proved that you were just another stupid kid. I deal with morons like you all the time and they all end up walking home with their little tails between their legs. Listen, you are wasting my time kid. And your insults came out your mouth and fell on your shirt. I have told no lies and hopefully taught you a few things.
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Might wanna fix your links thur, most of them are broken. Also might wanna organize your ideas a little better. You contradict yourself six or seven times.
I already wrote you a long ass comment on the other page, I'm lazy and I wanna go draw so I'm going to make this one quick.
I think it's deeply amusing that you claim anyone's ideas whom you don't agree with as OMG WITCHCRAFT!!11one. Tell me, oh great and enlightened PASCAL[Funny how he was a hero of the Church, conducting scietific experiments in the name of god and you share his name] Science? Math? Is learning about things other than THE GREAT SAVIOR JAWSUS witchcraft?
Let me remind you that you're using a COMPUTER right now to reply to me or should I say UNHOLY BOX OF SATAN
PROTIP: The bible is a literary allegory and plagiarism of several pagan religions. There is nothing to prove the events in the text happened.
And to be fair, you're the one running in this argument by calling anyone who disagrees with your sacristan drivel a pagan or a "stupid kid". You're the one hiding my comments where I call you out to be a deluded hypocritical fraud.
And then you try to act like a big man about it.
I suppose you want a gold star for your efforts.
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There's one on the teletubbies as well.
Wait you told me that.
I'm commencing pitbulls.
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I agree with your comment here, really I'm rather tired of hearing Christians and other religions bash Pagans/Wiccans as devil worshiper that sacrifice and eat infants or something ridiculous like that.
I may not be a Pagan/Wiccan but I believe in religious understanding and respect for the beliefs of our fellow man. This person obviously has no idea what they're talking about and is using biased (most likely Christian) understandings and applying it to art.
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omg i never saw that 666 sign ...good for noticing
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Because he added it in as a part of his own demented propaganda.
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Wait, wait, wait.
You're going to buy into this mindless drivel? Really?
Please, I beseech thee, look further into things than this terrible bit of slander before altering your view to fit this person's skewed mould of what the subject at hand is.
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Heyy......no you don't.
WAIT I REMEMBER WE MET IN A CANTINA IN PARIS
YOU BOOGER c:
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I can see forever D8
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Thanks very much Marona!
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i believe "respect" is the golden rule, and if it isn't then it should be....
respect thyself and respect thy neighbor~~~~~~~~~~
thank you for enlightening all those who take time to enjoy your art and lessons~!~
blessed be~~~~~~~~~
ahhh.....trying to step out of the washing cycle is a challenge indeed no matter where one wanders the landscaped earthly garden~~~~
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funny one. actually, i think that right behind fantasia in occultism disney movies is the lion king.
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Mickey is a mason!
BTW, did you have a chance to read that book I sent you?
I don't know what to think about Freemasonry. Sometimes, because of the quality of character of the Freemasons I know, the brotherhood's actual influence in the way I am (my father moved to the city at an young age and went to live with his freemason cousin (now 33 degree), who taught him many moral lessons - and he uses the many of these lessons to teach me), and its reputed involvement in the the end of monarchy and oppression in most of the world through revolutions like the French, American, etc...I am led to think positively about it.
But other times, when I see the favoritivism inherent in it amongst its members, such as in business relations and other things, I am led to think negatively...
As in all other things, there is always a bad and good side, or the good and evil, and that's how I try to see Freemasonry, even though I cannot understand or have access to all its secrets/mysteries.
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I did not read the book yet. I will try to eventually.
The thing about Freemasonry though is that 90% of Masons really have no clue what they're into.
At the top of the ladder it's satanists who sacrifice humans and animals and literally believe that sodomy with children will make them immortal...So there's not much good at all about Freemasonry.
A corrupt tree can not bring forth good fruit...
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I know...it seems like most Freemasons have no clue. I once asked one a couple of questions and he wasn't even sure about the name of the different rites: york and scottish. But...there are some, specially those in the 32 and 33 degrees...those are the ones most knowledgeable, I would think. But these don't reveal a thing about the brotherhood when you ask or comment about it, as they are supposed to igonore our '
I have a question, and I think you may or may not be able to answer it: have you actually met a Freemason before personally, or been around one for a long time? They are the nicest people, and in leadership positions, usually. I've had the opportunity to meet a couple, and my father lived with one for a long time (his cousin). He never says anythign negagitve about him, only very positive things. That's why I am sort of confused sometimes as to the true nature and meaning of it, as if it was something solely evil in nature, why would positive comments come out of it?
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A lot of Catholic people are very nice people...
It doesn't matter my friend. It's not them.
It's the higher powers.
You may have met really nice satanists. It doesn't mean that their religion is good.
Freemasonry is a religion...A cult.
And there are a lot more degrees than 33...The 90th - 100th degrees have a clue of what they're about...The men that perform satanic black masses in the Vatican, plan to enslave the people and who sodomize children.
Saddam Hussein was a Mason. Hitler was a devout Roman Catholic occultist Freemason.
Some of my friends are evolutionists. They are very nice people, but their religion is 100% lies and was proven to be by science and the teachers still teaching it to the children is an absolutely wicked act...But does it make everyone who believes in this religion of evolution an evil, wicked person? No, it's the wicked men who enforce its teaching in our schools who are wicked and evil.
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I know what you mean. I was born Catholic and I was able to see the great hypocrisy taking place around me, even though I am aware that the masses are ignorant of the past of the church, of the Great Council of Nicea, of Constantine's influence in the centralization of power in the papacy, of the artificial creation of the concept of Trinity in 365 AD (which is still disputed), the inquisition crimes against humanity, the oppression, etc, etc...all too obviously beyond the simple message of "love thy neighbor".
Sincerely, I do believe in a higher power, a source of creation, and I think the bible is the book closest to revealing great secrets (if you can interpret them properly). I have searched, and I do not find an ideal religion, as the wickedness of men has unhappily distorted the simplicity which seems to envelop the 'original' truth. I am not an unbeliever, but I do not blindly follow any religion, as I have not yet found an ideal one, if it does exist (which I doubt). If you know one, please let me know. I would gladly consider it in a scholastic approach first.
And about evolution, I have gladly discarded it since 2005.
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BTW, I had never actually thought about the symbol of mickey being a wizard in terms of a person who does magick in real life, but that makes sense now...and he has a wand and everything.
And Walt Disney was a Freemason? Wow..
I was in Washington D.C. last week, and I would say that it's a city full of masonic temples and monuments - the washington monument being the most outstanding.
An ex-tour guide sat next to us and started talking about it, and how there are masonic stones from each of the initial states inside the building. She talked about Washington, etc, etc, and I mentioned that in Brazil (my country), the lodges are usually named after revolutions and revolutionary leaders. She wasn't surprised at all.
Anyway, it was an interesting conversation.
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Interesting note:
The French Revolution was the Jesuits' Masonic revenge to the Pope who had then banished the Jesuit Order...
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Hmm, how come then Jesuits were persecuted in Portugal after it had been taken up by Freemasons? (this after the French Rev.)
Since there were many other revolutions around the world led or influenced by Freemasons, I would think that there would be a greater reason for them: perhaps freedom from cleric oppression and kings? How are the Jesuits involved in this if they are highly clerical and almost opposed to Freemasonry?
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The founder of the Jesuit Order was Ignacius of Loyola, he was an occultist part of the Bavarian Alumbrados(Illuminati).
The Jesuits later, in 1776, used Adam Weishaupt to fuse Freemasonry with Illuminati. Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit trained Canon Law Professor. From then on, the Jesuit General controlled all high level freemasonry.
In fact, all the Scottish rites were written by the Jesuits.
The Jesuits were banished from every country in Europe in the past except for one I believe. Because they are the strongest force of tyrany. Regardless if Portugal was taken over by Masons or non masons, if they banished the Jesuits, Portugal eventually payed the price for the Jesuits never forgive or forsake. The Jesuits today are stronger than they ever were! People don't even know what a Jesuit is in general and have no clue of their history or the history of the papacy, that's how powerful they got.
The papacy once put a ban on Freemasonry, this was to keep Catholics out and have Protestants flow in and thus the Vatican now controls a great majority of "Protestantism" now and out of that, the charismatic, ecumenical movement emerged.
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Insteresting. I always thought that the reason why the Catholic Church hated freemasonry was because of a resentment felt because of Freemasonry's role in spreading secularism in Europe with the persecution of Kings and the Clergy. Probably the greatest blow to the Catholic Church was the French Revolution, which inspired so many others around the world. I was looking at the lodge names in Brazil and, interestingly, a lot of them are named after the French Revolution and revolutions that took place in Brazil (brazil was a monarchy before). All this persecution, to me, seems to have started as a revenge against the times when Templars were persecuted and killed (Jacques de Molay being the Templar to spread this revolutionary plan). A king and a pope ordered Jacques de Molay to be burned at the stake, and killed hundreds of others...It seems like most of this was a conflict of power and interest, although I could be wrong...
I still need to research a lot about it, because it's too complex to understand all these possible scenarios, including the one you present.
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The Knights Templars, which are Freemasons today, were Papal Knights Templars...
What happened is that they were worshiping Baphomet and were studying more and more the Kabala.
They were performing ritual sex with young boys.
As they became increasingly opened about their worship, they were persecuted by the pope. Jacques De Molay actually put a curse on the king and the pope who both died that same year.
Many of them fled.
It was only in 1776 that the Jesuit Order finally became in control of the Masons with Adam Weishaupt.
The French Revolution was indeed a big blow to the Catholic Church, I tend to think that the Reformation was a bigger blow but still...The French Revolution was a revenge plot by the Jesuits against the pope who had banished them and they wanted to show the Vatican how truely powerful they were(the Jesuits) and to never mess with them again. The Jesuit General today is the one controlling the Vatican.
Here's a good read for you:
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I see. Could the modern Knights Templars be connected with the Jesuits? I mean, after the death of DeMolay they still continued to exist in Malta and Scotland, and Freemasonry was begun through them, according to some sources. Templars also developed a grudge and feeling of revenge for what the church had done to them, and from that point on seemed to have plotted to end the oppression of the Pope and Kings, causing major revolutions around the world...where there is clearly masonic connections to most of them. Could this be?
There are so many theories about all this that it's hard to be sure about what is really going on...
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Don't believe his propaganda. He has no clue what he's talking about. The King of France owed the Templars money, so he made the pope declare them heretics. They weren't worshiping the devil.
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