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"Hawk II (Holly Granger)" commissioned by Warren Griffin.Character belongs to DC Comics.
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I guess if I was gonna play around with Holly's Hawk design bit... I'd almost consider fusing all her cape strands into just two long pieces
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This is seriously amazing, man. I'm not on DA as often as I used to be, so each time I come back your improvement is extremely clear. The perspective, the facial structure, everything. Well done!
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Yes!Β I fully latched on to Holly Granger as hawk back in Teen Titans!Β So glad you drew her too!Β
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I take it that you didn't take her being gored and thenΒ flat out ignored very well...
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Well to make you feel better Gail apparently wasn't just ignoring it but was slow burning it... 'whether you think that was the smart choice or not is different matter'
gailsimone.tumblr.com/post/168β¦
But then the whole Reboot/NotReboot Nu52 happened so no emotional payoff for everybody!!!
Apparently they go back and forth whether the rest of the Grangers are alive in the new 52 timeline, I think it was said when asked why Nu52 Dawn is more detached and sullen then her previous self, That her whole family was killed shortly after getting her powers * Basically Kestrel goes hunting Dove instead of Hawk* but whether that was undone by rebirth is unknown... H&D haven't shown up since Titans hunt and missed Rebirth completely... hell they didn't get a passing mention in Titans
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Her waist seems to be a bit too small, as do her arms. Her head also seems to be too big. (Not trying to sound like a jerk, just some constructive observations).
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To be fair I did ask that Holly be drawn more like a proper Teenager *IE The age range she's intended to be* before crazy Judd Winick shenanigans got involved
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Judd Winick shenanigans.............. or like the Impractical Jokers once said while pretending to be reporters, "Do you prefer the normal look.......... or Mondo Gazungas".
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" I was under the impression she was the older one! I swear!"Β Β Its one thing that it got past the writer... its another it got past the artist... how the hell it got past the Editor
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaPvmβ¦
then again knowing Judd he probably had to be talked out of not making them lesbians with each other... even after they pointed out their related. Granted one of Holly and Dawn's biggest flaws is the lack of sisterly affection between the two but come on NOT that kind of affection!
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How did things like that get past the writers, artists, and editors? Well as the old saying goes, "fish stink from the head down". The management of DC has been garbage since 2003, and if the bosses don't care about the quality of their company's produce, then the employees won't care either. Dan DiDio has single handedly fucked that company into a hole that it may never recover from, and Geoff Johns is a limp-dick hypocrite with no spine to take a stand on anything that would actually make things better. Because of things like that, every other writer/artist/editor have no passion for their work, and are only there for the paycheck. This is why continuity gets rewritten so often; why storylines are always the same; why characters are constantly killed off in ever increasingly pointless manors.Β
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In light that Rebirth has for the most part been a massive success and has for the most part been headed by JohnsΒ ,Yeah there is stuff I wish was back or characters had been focused on but the current direction is a breaths of fresh air compared to the slog that was the late 00s and early 10s with the editorial dictatorship finally have been reigned in. Rebirth relied on story telling and not shock factor.
Frankly speaking Didio losing most of his political clot cause of how much of the NU52 project fell apart was the blessing in disguise...
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The waists is due to the red... though yeah her head does seem rather large now that I'm looking at it
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Shame we didn't get to see more of her. I would have love to know more about her and how she was different from Dawn. Especially since we've seen so much of Dawn already.
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Holly's problem was she was a half finished character concept that got thrown to the wolves.Β Geoff effectively just creates her and then never touches her again *then proceeds to ***** that everybody ELSE screwed her up -_-'*
I get the distinct impression that Holly and Dawn weren't suppose to be THAT different like Hank and Don were designed to be two extremes trying to find a middle ground
Essentially They'd have been a better Yin and Yang dynamic where they were two sides of the same coin. The problem is Holly was weakly defined *Geoff apparently tried to explain her backstory in back issue Q&As... He should have sucked it up and done a proper reintroduction to H&D instead of just Having the duo randomly show up after a decade in what amounted to a meh royal rumble debut
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