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Published: 2018-07-09 08:15:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 6567; Favourites: 155; Downloads: 8
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What if some species would evolve from very different branches of evolutionary tree than it happened?Related content
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I did it in one of old comments here "I wanted this angelfish (angel tetra?) to be type of characid instead of cichlid. Neon tetra (siamese neon fish?) is type of anabantoid instead of characid. And tiger barb (tiger hap?) is cichlid instead od cyprinid.
It could be found easiliy by searching their genus name in internet, all of them belong to real world genus. 
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oh, ok. angelfish as a tetra and tiger barbs as a minnow / carp. I did get the betta as a neon tetra, I wasn't sure about the others.
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Tiger barb is a carp-like fish. On this drawing it is a cichlid.
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In GIMP. Its a free program, you can download it from internet. I draw black outlines in transparent layer, and then put colors on the layer under it, using brush with less than 100% opacity. Then I put shadows and highlights and drawing is finished. These fish are quite crude work, I wanted to finish them in no more than one day so it is only a dozen or so hours of work. I dont have very much drawing talent in fact, I overcompensate it with patience and stubborness, working on every picture for days or weeks long.
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Nice what I've noticed is that my drawings at the moment look a bit similar to your old drawings so I'm still learning
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How do you colour your drawings
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I meant does he use pencil crayons does he digitally colour them what does he use
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pencil, then darkened with pen and then photoshop.
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I've been having a similar idea. Would this be the first of a series?
If this were so, where would our familiar songbirds be placed in an alternate Earth where Passeriformes never existed?
Would Feliformia and Caniformia look and behave differently if they still evolved from one same ancestor (on the genus scale) but circumstances made them separate orders rather than suborders of Carnivora?
Same question applies for Yinpterochiroptera and Yangochiroptera.
Which orders or families of fish would occupy the niches of perciform fish if Perciformes itself never existed?
Would Afrotherian whales look different from artiodactylian whales?
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I dont plan to draw it as series, but I have few similar ideas to test how they would look on a drawing. However I dont know if I would ever draw them or not.
About birds, if you try to paint them exacly the same way like I drew these fish, you would get quite surprising results. If you would try to turn passeriform into hawk, you would end with falcon. Turn seagull into quail and you would get a button quail. Or flamingo into loon and you would get grebe. Birds have quite limited options for body shape and so convergence is surprisingly strong in them. If two completely unrelated species behave the same way, they would very often look almost identical to layman eyes.
But I cannot guess which birds would become Passeriformes equivalent if there would be no real Passeriform.
About Percomorpha, the second most species rich line of fish are Ostariophysi, however most of them live in freshwater.
If there would be no Percomorpha, I think Ostariophysi would be best suited to take their place.
Closest thing to Afrotherian whales alive are Sirenia. They are herbivorous, which makes them very diferent from carnivorous Artiodactylan whales.
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I'm a bit confused. Which group did each fish evolve from here? I think that the angelfish is of the piranha family, but I can't be sure.
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Absolutely amazing! Really great.
The Betta would be the best aquarium fish ever, tbh.
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And you are close.
It could be found easiliy by searching their genus name in internet, all of them belong to real world genus.
By the way I choosed to merge species with as diferent behaviour, swimming style and body shape as it is possible, but effect was surprisingly compatible.
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I see, I see.
Ooh, what about doing some more drastic swaps: like eels evolving from bichirs or lungfish and bull sharks from gar. Hell, seahorses and moray eels alone provide a ton of potential.
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It could be interesting, but I chose these on the picture because of few reasons. I dont really like very old groups of fish, like lungfish. They are stuck with body plan, which was innovative in triassic, while other groups of fish (speaking mostly of Percomorpha and Ostariophysi) later evolved traits which enabled them to do better just everything fish can do, and so tremendously outcompeted such lungfish. And I prefer rather streamlined, swimming fish instead of seahorses and eels. Also I breed many fish in my aquariums, and so I choose some beautiful and well known aquarium species.
But scientists quite recently did molecular analysis of fish and it was of course full of surprises. For example billfishes turned out to be very closely related to flatfishes and cichlids to poeciliids. Eel shape also evolved several times, also in group very closely related to anabantoids, the Synbranchiformes. Here is whole article currents.plos.org/treeoflife/a…
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