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Very old favorite. I no longer have the original so this is from a very old photograph, I guess it'll do.I wasn't sure if this was landscape, still life or people.
Yes there is a tiny bit of colored pencil in the flag,
I was reckless in my youth.
The rest of course is graphite.
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Me too, and you're much better situated for them than I am.
Here old is 200 or 300 years.
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Some of the Victorian cemeteries over here are amazing,especially when they are abandoned and overgrown.Highgate Cemetery in London is one of the best
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I would be very contented there, I'm sure.
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WOW that is reckless !Really let your hair down eh'.still life extint' i reckon. like it though,It says a bit,about the fickleness of emotion and memory,life and the futillityof it all
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I can't be doing naked or half-naked people all the time now can I?
Besides I have a thing for old cemeteries. If I ever got
to England I'd be ecstatic for all the ancient graveyards.
And as morose and black of mood as I'm capable of getting
I never quite buy into the notion of futility.
Do you?
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I had a stay in hospital with a 'breakdown' bipolar episode some years ago.Meds seem to cotain the hypermania but the depression still spreads its shadow ocasionaly and I'd have to admit to sometimes wondering why the bloody hell do y' bother.punishment for being an agnostic -atheist[I waver a bit there]I 'spose
It'd be nice to be able to believe in a caring 'nanny' almighty eh?
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I had to sleep on this to ferret out the difference
between hopelessness and futility.
Depression is such a bugbear, I can only imagine how
hard it must be to struggle against that level of bleakness
that must come at the extreme points of bipolar.
I don't believe in a God, despite having muddled through
years of Catholic home life and education. If there is one
it's a pretty disengaged one and made itself largely irrelevant
except as concerns influencing presidential elections and sporting events
apparently. But I agree a benevolent God is a lovely idea and we human
animals seem to crave it. I haven't figured out why we teach our kids
not to believe in magic and fairy tales but assure them with all
conviction that God exists.
While I often waver between hopelessness and a more sedate equilibrium,
I never really think that life on the whole is futile.
Some people get screwed at the get-go, some people get the scales
decisively tipped in their favor, and most of us are somewhere in between,
in terms of raw material and circumstance. We can't control what we were born
with or born in to, and the struggles and miseries can make us hopeless.
But the capacities for pleasure and love, beauty and joy, friendship and dogs and horses--
I guess that trumps futility for me, even if existence is inherently meaningless, godless, absurd.
Goodness I've gone all musing and philosophical-ish.
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okaaay,maybe i'd better sleep on that .oh well, here goes; I'spose i was thinking of the fallen,no longer given a damn about,gravestone ,which was no doubt installed with the best intent by people to commemorate and remind future generations of the importence of that individual, to them, and society in general.now fallen, uncared about, and forgotten, and except for the temporary comfort it gave to those mourners, who would have spent a considerable amount of probably illafforded money on it.,,,futile? gravestones and most other monuments, i feel, are an expression of our craving immortality,,,futile.
I drove myself to a break down, probably contributed to gregs illness,and caused ali considerable grief and hardship, trying to build and pay for a far larger and more expensive than necessary home.and keep up with the joneses--pride -futility?
we are, by almost any definition ,extremely lucky. I grew up in one of the wealthiest [per capita]countries,in peacetime,at a time when pollitics here, of both persuations, had very strong social adgenders,free education [even to uni if you worked],near free health,and opportunity for all: With a little application and hard work ,we'vb come from zero to, by world standards, pretty comfy.I read recently that if you have total net individual $ worth[debt free property savings etc] over 350,000,then you are in the top 1.5%. We may be a little property rich -dollar poor,but we fit there, and yet, one still finds himself feeling miserable,and I'll bet there are many who are in the bottom 1.5% who are reasonably contented with their lot.---futility?
Of course you're totally ,right the ONLY things of any real value are love ,family and friendship ,human or animal, [unfortunatly the human type can be a trifle ephemoral at times], kids ,laughter beauty,food and shelter, etc.[thinking 'bout that i'm not sure where the worlds great beautiful buildings and monuments fit in here,lol]
you cant really compare hopelessness to futility.hopelessnessis an emotion ,a state of mind,lack of hope,not necesarily justifiable,[the cavalry may be on its way][unless you are wearing concrete boots and just made a large splash in deep water,when one would be hoping he was wrong about god]. Whilst futility is an adjective,i think.[english lessons are a distant memory]describing the fact that many of our strivings have, in the wider scheme of things ,no real point: But, that in no way changes the fact that that we can, and should,enjoy the bounty of beauty and grandeur that surrounds us and which we can create with our minds and hands and even more importantly the joys and comfort of friendship and love.[and i wont go into trying to separate those two.lol]
Now how was that for a totally piontless, FUTILE ,musing ,philosophical-ish rave. see ya
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I thought it was quite a nice and interesting pointless futile rave.
Yeah, that idea that some people nurture, that as long as we're remembered
we remain somehow present, as if to live in memory imparts immortality....
I don't much care what happens to me after I die.
I don't know about that example of futility though. Perhaps ill-advised but
not unusual, to strive for more than is easily achieved. And it's often
hard to ferret out our own wants and needs from what we feel pressured to do
for whatever reason. Especially when we're younger, eh?
Certainly a high cost extracted in your case, but I don't think
I would call it futile. It was a goal and a desire and it might have turned
out differently, you couldn't have known at the get-go.
I do agree we human animals seem strongly motivated to over-reach ourselves.
And never a day goes by when I don't appreciate the fact that I'm warm, well-fed
and physically able, despite the lack of a new car or a finished stairway, as
compared with the many millions of people who live in horrible ways.
A Zen attitude is about the best as near as I can tell. Chop wood, carry water.
Me trying to learn math, that would be futility.
I'm a Nihihlist at heart, I do think any meaning, purpose or morality in the
world is contrived solely through the mind of man. But we're here and this is what we've got. Might as well enjoy the good bits and try hard to avoid the nasty ones.
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damn !I hate it when people agree.like a bucket of cold water, on a good arguement.
not sure whether for me ,trying to learn anything isn't futile given that its all i can do to contain how much i forget.
i dont know if greg,s told you , but i was brought up a jehovahs witness until i extracted myself at about 17 ,which may explain some of my antiphathy towards formal religion[or perhaps i just recognised bullshit when i saw it]
god , maybe theres a bit of one in all of us,[except phsychopaths]our concience. as social animals we all crave forgiveness when we offend ,but perhaps the most important thing for our health of mind, is to be able to forgive ourselves ,as well as others
nihihlism:-as opposed to theizm yes but it's a concept that seems to have multi connotations. I suspect we may have some errr- inherent, instinctive ,if you like,nucleus concept of good v bad,right v wrong.In the same way that other social animals seem to sense and obey the herd, pack, mob, whatever rules, even in multi species herds.Evolved or overwise aquired to benifit all. Which allows us to concieve the concept of ethic as opposed to law.just as wild geese 'know 'to migrate and cuckoos know to cuckold etc.And so we tend to make gods in our image[the bible only got it slightly wrong].does'nt stop us enjoying just helps us get along .
rave ,rave, rave maybe i should look at join philosophy group,--or just up my meds
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How dismal for you then, I seem to agree with you in
nearly every particular.
Extracted yourself, I love it, well put.
It must have been pretty difficult for you
especially at such a young age. I don't imagine
anyone held the door open for you. You must have had
heaps of courage.
It certainly is crucial for emotional well-being, to know how
to forgive ourselves. Also I do think that we are bound more
than we realize, by our natures as social or herd animals.
That strong desire to fit in and to belong, to whatever group
or family unit we acknowledge as our own, it's the grease that keeps
society running more or less smoothly, also creates buckets of trouble
in the form of territorial squabbles and wars, the old 'us against them' bugbear.
(That's a big reason I have very little faith in the democratic
process---there, do we disagree on politics if not religion?
I think the majority of people are too easily led and influenced
to make wise far-sighted decisions about their government
and the planet.) I seem to be straying rather far from the original topic.....
But anyway, we do make gods in our image don't we? It makes
me giggle to think God has a digestive track and needs to trim
his fingernails now and then.
Oh you don't need to up your meds just because you've
taken your brain out for a spin.
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on the 'took courage, bit ;have you any idea what its like to knock on a class mates front door and try to sell their dad a watchtower[LEMMEOUTAHERRRREEE].courage born of desperation more like .besides no kid i was responsable for was ever going to die for lack of a blood tranfussion and even then i didnt have much time for hypocrites.like i said it was'nt that hard to recognize bullshit when it was shoved down your throat
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I don't have an exactly precisely sort of idea but
kids are predisposed to dislike putting themselves
forward like that, I remember that.
Not a grand thing to ask of a child.
I dunno, Andy, lots of kids buy into what they're
raised to believe. You were clearly a thinking youngster,
whatever the source of the motivation.
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oops wrong button there.I was saying that they tried to introduce compulsory filtering by the servers here ,but wikileaks[bless 'em] published they're proposed banned list ,and 'system' of implimenting bans,which raised a few eyebrows and got it shelved for now.But the heat they're applying to wikileaks sort of indicates where we're heading.
It amazes me how we all just stand arround and watch[greg has ideas about group learned helplessness] more likely just plan apathy.I dunno ,I cant thik of many reasons to hold much hope for the civilization in which we live but im just an old nuffy whose pretty much given up.It'll take someone of a bit more stature than me to change the allmost inevitable
[you can show 'em whats happening,but you cant make 'em think] to slightly coin a phrase. I'm of down town with Kinna to sip a flat white and watch the scenery walk by[shes worth her weight in gold as a bird puller] better make that a dirty old nuffy eh.
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Really! Compulsory filtering?? I don't think we have
that here, I haven't heard of any such thing outside of China, say.
Certainly wouldn't have expected to find it in Australia.
Well possibly what Greg calls group learned helplessness
I call being herd animals, or flock animals--sheep to be specific.
We most of us want to be comfortable, want structure, want to be led,
and don't want things to get in the way of what we perceive to be
our immediate concerns. We seem incapable, at least in the US,
of making short term sacrifices for the sake of the long term good.
Most of us, mind, not all. There's always stratification among the herd.
Election years in the US are always exceedingly disheartening.
It leaves me with little or no respect for the democratic process,
people are so gullible and so easily influenced, undiscerning and short-sighted,
self-interested....give me a benevolent dictator any day....
I can't support your illicit use of Kinna, seeing as I'm not perky
young eye candy myself.
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I'll have to talk to greg about exactly what & how the proposition was .I remember it was supposedly aimed at the worst of porn and terrorism which sounds reasonable.The trouble being once the system is in place ,if the banned list is not .publicly available ,it can be used to filter anything the government of the day chooses.
Tolerate,any sort of dictatership; What were you saying about humaniy,,,realy BAAAAAAr.Democracy;Its not the concept that is the problem ,but the system and rules of implementation.We dont have to chuck the kid out with the bathwater.I lean towards a simple system where small groups of electors say 3000 to 5000' elect, their say, 3 area representitives,on a preferentual system to avoid one partys overrepresentation.these 3 would vote in a larger area of responsibility and also elect on a per-capita bases ,representitives to the next stratta of government ,and so on up to national parliment,who elect the prime minister and cabinet or -and president etc .Say 6 year terms with elections of three local reps every three years to ensure smoother transitions and avoid idiotic 'issue' elections.result :-pollies representing their electorates or they're out ,much less domination by large partys, some less influence by lobbist ,you're voting for people you probably know,or know of.and only one election for all levels of of government every three years... Might have some chance of working.
hardly illicit,maybe unethical. she has no prejudice,gets 'em all in ,from 10 months to 100..Im old enough know its not worth the trouble to more than look and ali knows me well enough to know i know.and if they wer'nt meant to be looked at they wouldnt look so damn good ,and dont try'n tell me you've never been guilty of a sneaky perv... anyway you dont get into trouble for lookin ,just for getting caught tryin to pretend you're not
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Well how about this?
Any permutation of democracy is viable so long as
money is removed from the equation.
It seems to work pretty well here in tiny progressive
Vermont, but that may be simply because the candidates
I approve of usually win.
But in fact the state is small enough that there doesn't
feel like such a huge disconnect between candidates and
the electorate. You really can get to know the people
running for office, to a degree, if you make the effort.
I have never been guilty of a sneaky perv.
Nor been one either.
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democracy! always thought it should be spelt crazy.seriously though i like any of the alternatives less.the important part is its constitution .both our countries are bound by constitions that need massive updating to reflect the changing atitudes, technology and international realities.the true free media,not in the total control of the oligarchy or political interests and true education where kids are taught how to think and conciously analyse what they are presented with as distinct from getting grades by simply cramming 'facts'.errr, dont think ill be holding my breath ,waiing.it terrifies me thatin the not too distantfuture they'll can the current freedom of the internet[our last bastion oftrue exchange of thought]in the name of controlling porn or terrorism or some other excuse they tried to introduce compusory
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Wow! I did a photo for a Historical Contest in our town very similar to this, just last week! This blows mine away, though!! You're talent is incredible! I love your work!
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Thanks so much, you're a sweetie-!
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A good name for the drawing! I missed this one b4. Really nice work!
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I was seriously proud of that title.
Thanks.
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Those eyes seem to run in the family. Thank you again.
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I really like that little touch of color. great focus point
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Very bold of me to add that bit of color. Thanks!
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This piece so flawless and beautiful. Well done.
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Haha how very reckless indeed!! I'm glad old age has shown you the light of a life without colour?!
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Pfft, I drew this when I was reckless and...young.
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Thank you, and how are you? You're not around so much these days.
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Well, it's Summer... Too much heat, too much humid heat, too much people... I draw and paint every day, but slower
Gosh I miss winter!
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Me too-! But I imagine your winter is a little different than my winter.
Isn't summer why you have siestas?
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I have siestas all year (well, I try to have them 
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I agree, it's humid and in the 80s here ('too hot' in celsius)
at the moment and sleep seems the most or only sensible thing to do.
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Thank you. 
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now that is cool. I love the touch of color
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I was very adventurous back then.
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Thank you Zeyno. Was a long time ago.
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It's so funny that I never noticed the poignancy
before. Thanks Carrie.
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I'm a sucker for graveyards and whatnot, so...
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Me too.
How are you?
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I've been doing all right. Things have been pretty hectic lately. Finishing up some of my final classes for my Bachelor's Degree and I get to take some studio art classes this fall. Can't wait
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I'm glad you'll be doing some studio art, you are so
good at it! I've been fine, a little cranky today because
it's been nasty hot and humid the past couple of days.
Good haying weather and that's about it.
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I really can't wait! I love that I HAVE to take some studio art classes. It's like "awww... you twisted my arm... shucks..." 
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