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Description Maybe you can read the clues and figure out what this is ... or can wait and I'll tell that, despite all the woolly fuzz, giant keratinous spines on the tail, and double nasal trunks, this might very well be a .... gasp! ... ankylosaur!

What could we say, speculatively, about ankylosaurs? First, we cannot really assume the spines are really covered in huge keratin sheaths -- croc scutes certainly aren't -- while there are suggestions that these were have been embedded into the animal's skin, and thus may not have been exposed as much as they appear. If some basal ornithischians had bodies covered in fuzz, and Mark Witton [link] makes a great case for ceratopsians covered in "dinofuzz," there's no real reason to stop at them and hit ankylosaurs as fuzzy, too. And as for the schnoz... ankylosaurs have these huge narial fenestrae, with ample evidence for them containing an ample extent of nasal tissue ... so why not a trunk-like apparatus? Doesn't need to be a "trunk," of course. And if these guys got any more north than other polar dinosaurs, there is no reason the suggestions for ceratopsian "wool" cannot really apply to them, too. Mental excercise, artistic, and above all, not serious.
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Comments: 52

Qilong In reply to ??? [2013-12-23 13:19:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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vasix [2013-12-18 03:55:31 +0000 UTC]

I feel like drawing a Minmi like this....already planned it, should get down to the actual work

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Qilong In reply to vasix [2013-12-20 06:34:09 +0000 UTC]

Note that this reconstruction is, to be blunt, wrong. I don't think there's a chance they were so heavily "furry." Not even armadillo-like sparsely furred. Ankylosaurs are pretty spiky throughout their evolution.

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Nettleheart [2013-12-02 12:05:29 +0000 UTC]

Nice; though I'm not fond of the trunks.

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Qilong In reply to Nettleheart [2013-12-02 13:26:39 +0000 UTC]

Nor am I. It's all an impossibility. I doubt any part of this reconstruction is true.

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Ikechi1 [2013-11-22 15:22:30 +0000 UTC]

Can I borrow this wooly, (is fluffy better?) drawing and present it

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Qilong In reply to Ikechi1 [2013-11-22 16:43:15 +0000 UTC]

For what purpose?

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Ikechi1 In reply to Qilong [2013-11-22 23:15:06 +0000 UTC]

to show speculative possibilities and now evolution is not limited by human imagination

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Qilong In reply to Ikechi1 [2014-01-04 16:08:48 +0000 UTC]

I suppose I can allow this. But no derivatives. Please leave the illustration intact, my signature attached to it, and you must note that I own the illustration.

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Ikechi1 In reply to Qilong [2014-01-04 16:47:23 +0000 UTC]

No derivatives will be made, your illustration will be made intact, signature and all and it will be made clear that the work is yours. I would be remiss to leave that out.

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Kazuma27 [2013-01-20 13:33:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh my goooooooood!!!!!!!!


Well, that's cool actually. Love the twin trunks!

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Qilong In reply to Kazuma27 [2013-01-21 18:04:24 +0000 UTC]

Ha! I need more comments about the schnozes!

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Irkenarmada1 [2013-01-20 04:01:05 +0000 UTC]

This is really cool. Good work!

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th3punk1n4t0r [2013-01-18 20:17:48 +0000 UTC]

very interesting- I was always more interested in theropods and sauropods than ornithischians, but you raise some interesting points. I always assumed that they were scaly, but if the plumage I associate with small scale theropods went much further back than the Cretaceous, it IS entirely possible that some ornithischians had such features.

perhaps things as far back as Ceolophysis had protofeathers; I've seen one or two depictions of this, but haven't done enough research to determine whether or not that's likely.

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Qilong In reply to th3punk1n4t0r [2013-01-21 18:14:50 +0000 UTC]

If we assume the things in Tianyulong confuciusi are the same things in Sinosauropteryx prima or Juravenator starki, then we allow ourselves to say: these things extend back to the origin of dinosaurs, and thus may have been present in the lineages leading to the three major groups, and most subgroups, of dinosaur. We know some ornithischians were ornamented with filaments, so we can posit that -- as this stems from Mark Witton's discussion as I note in the image description -- if one derived group has them, could all of them have them? I don't actually think this is TRUE for these guys, and the evidence for rough texture and hard skin is strong, but I can quite imagine some type of frilly, fringe filaments around the face or in regions less armored. One wonders, then, that the appearance of dinosaurs may be more fantastic than we've expected growing up. It's a good thing that guy like John Conway ([link] ) and Memo Koseman ([link] ) have jump started the conversation on this. My concern, and this illustration edges on that, is that this fantastic-ness can go a bit too far. BUT ... what they suggest we all do is be a little more fearless, and less "standard." I agree.

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th3punk1n4t0r In reply to Qilong [2013-01-22 16:45:03 +0000 UTC]

I shall have to research these things later; thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

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sapiens89 [2013-01-18 12:08:36 +0000 UTC]

I love the concept, it's really interesting to conceive the prehistoric animals as creatures from science fiction but remaining plausible.
I'd like to know, why two trunks?

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sapiens89 In reply to sapiens89 [2013-01-23 14:25:50 +0000 UTC]

you did well.

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Qilong In reply to sapiens89 [2013-01-21 18:07:55 +0000 UTC]

It's to do with the two large narial fossae in ankylosaurs, one on each side, but often with a roughened section of the snout between them, or the grooved, possibly keratinous beak below them. It just seemed "conventional" to give them a beak, topped with a heavy pad a la musk oxen, and then there were the nostrils ... so i just made trunks. I wasn't trying to be sleek and mysterious for my reasons, I didn't think there was a grand case for trunks -- and its likely there weren't any, they lack the evidences FOR trunks -- but those huge pneumatic narial fossae just screamed "Do something visual with me!" And so I did.

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VovinaArt [2013-01-18 05:57:57 +0000 UTC]

Looks pretty cool.

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bensen-daniel [2013-01-17 18:55:34 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely awesome

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ZEGH8578 [2013-01-17 18:50:26 +0000 UTC]

Definitely an intriguing idea.

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LordGeekington [2013-01-17 17:27:19 +0000 UTC]

"trunk-like apparatus"

It has recently been argued the term "trunk" should be abandoned for things sticking out of vertebrate's faces and replaced with more precise terminology. I believe this would qualify as a prorhiscis.

[link]

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Qilong In reply to LordGeekington [2013-01-17 18:24:06 +0000 UTC]

Ah. I was drawing this tongue in cheek, not quite worried about precise terminology. Noted!

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LordGeekington In reply to Qilong [2013-01-17 18:49:05 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... I am a shameless prorhiscis proselytizer.

Absolutely amazing concept, by the way!

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Qilong In reply to LordGeekington [2013-01-24 21:53:52 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! (However tongue-in-cheek the idea actually is.)

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buitreraptor314 [2013-01-17 16:00:17 +0000 UTC]

This is wonderfully awesome!

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Hyrotrioskjan [2013-01-17 15:26:15 +0000 UTC]

Arrrr, I knew I should publish my wolly ankylosaur earlier! Crazy, Awesome stuff!

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Qilong In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2013-01-17 18:23:39 +0000 UTC]

And ... you can't publish it somehow? It's not like I care about being "first."

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Qilong [2013-01-17 19:47:53 +0000 UTC]

I will publish it, but without the sweet smell of the revolutionary

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Qilong In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2013-01-18 11:26:49 +0000 UTC]

We shall both say that this is inevitable: Once one group becomes enfluffled, so too must they all.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Qilong [2013-01-18 19:22:34 +0000 UTC]

Yes we should.

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PrimevalRaptor In reply to Qilong [2013-01-18 16:35:03 +0000 UTC]

"Once one group becomes enfluffled, so too must they all."

This sentence made my day. ^^

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Qilong In reply to PrimevalRaptor [2013-01-24 21:59:55 +0000 UTC]

Glad to help!

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PrimevalRaptor [2013-01-17 15:10:25 +0000 UTC]

A fuzzy ankylosaur?
Finally!
I always appreciate quilled ornithischia ^^

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Qilong In reply to PrimevalRaptor [2013-01-21 18:05:01 +0000 UTC]

Well, no quills specifically in this one.

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PrimevalRaptor In reply to Qilong [2013-01-21 18:17:56 +0000 UTC]

Yes, you`re right.
Well, it`s still fluffy. ^^

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DinoBirdMan [2013-01-17 14:06:22 +0000 UTC]

No tank dinosaurs has ever cover in Dino-fuzzy before!

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Qilong In reply to DinoBirdMan [2013-01-17 15:05:40 +0000 UTC]

Yeah ... one can thank Mark Witton for the impetus.

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DinoBirdMan In reply to Qilong [2013-01-17 23:47:46 +0000 UTC]

I see... So, it was so hard to miss understanding about fuzzy ankylosaur, than first the fuzzy ornithopods, then fuzzy ceratopsians and now this? (Sigh) I guest this new picture is all ends up Stuck in my head.

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Qilong In reply to DinoBirdMan [2013-01-18 11:26:17 +0000 UTC]

I want you to question! Look at the data that is present as fact, or as proof, or as suggestion for this or that, then explore that data, not the result. As an artist, though, let your imagination run wild. This drawing is where the two interfere.

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DinoBirdMan In reply to Qilong [2013-01-18 14:01:38 +0000 UTC]

Alrighty! Now let see where I suppose to do.

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Orionide5 [2013-01-17 12:54:51 +0000 UTC]

Ha, this is great. Does its neck go much higher than that? If so, leaning its neck up all the way would make it even harder to recognize.

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Qilong In reply to Orionide5 [2013-01-17 15:41:39 +0000 UTC]

I didn't really draw it with the anatomy in mind. I think it possible the neck COULD reach further up.

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RickCharlesOfficial [2013-01-17 12:46:15 +0000 UTC]

I don't know what to think of this... But it's awesome.

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Qilong In reply to RickCharlesOfficial [2013-01-21 18:04:42 +0000 UTC]

Why, thank you.

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T-PEKC [2013-01-17 12:38:12 +0000 UTC]

This is the craziest depiction of an ankylosaur EVER! 0_o Looks like an alien from a "Star Wars". What is it, Euoplocephalus?

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Qilong In reply to T-PEKC [2013-01-17 15:05:17 +0000 UTC]

This is whatever your heart desires! Tail club + giant neck spines? It's not anything in particular, it was merely an outrageous concept.

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T-PEKC In reply to Qilong [2013-01-17 16:30:01 +0000 UTC]

I thought it's reconstruction of a real animal, because it kind of reminded me of both Euoplocephalus and Sauropelta. Anyway, it's indeed an outrageous concept. Your speculative (or more unusual) concepts are awesome!

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Qilong In reply to T-PEKC [2013-01-24 21:54:20 +0000 UTC]

Sometimes they're okay .

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