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So. A random doodle I started, and would like to attempt to finish at some point in time.I often Livestream the image, as it's more fun to talk about the image as it's being made.
Yes, not all of the lines have been coloured or inked yet... those will come in later.
Dio Brando of Jojo's and Alexander Anderson of Hellsing
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Few little tweaks.
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"May the god of light and heaven above purify the road you walk on scum!"
"Hahahahaha! What lowly creature thinks he can stand up to I, DIO!"
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Dio will win this.
Unless Anderson uses the Nail of Helena, and becomes a Monster of God.
Then he has a shot with his insane regenerative powers, and holy fire that burns anything that is unholy, or demonic.
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I say Dio will win, because honestly Dio has something that Alucard does not.
Freedom to do as he pleases. Sure, Alucard had all that power, but he was constantly under restriction, at least until a point in the manga, but he still went back to being restricted. Also, yeah, regenerate any wound? I notice that Anderson's torso usually doesn't take damage, just his limb. What if The World yanks out or punches out his heart? Can he stay alive and regenerate if his heart is forced to stop beating?
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Well said, well said. Ah, perhaps you should let the other fellow up above you know about the whole... ripping out his heart.
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I posted to that one, but not about ripping out the heart. I brought up Part 1 Dio's ability to CANCEL OUT the Ripple, which is essentially using purifying energy.
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Anderson is going to whup this guy to kingdom come!
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Dude what can anderson do when DIO stops time. And if by some miracle he can get close to DIO he's just gonna summon his stand which is invisible to people who dont have a stand. so i'd say that no matter how strong anderson is DIO will own him(seeing as stuf like cross and holy water doest affect DIO at all).
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Won't matter if he can stop time because Anderson can regenerate from any injury he can inflict one him.
As for his stand can Dio summon the stand fast enough before Anderson closes the distance and slashes him, or is the stand spirit fast enough to stop Anderson?
I'm not talking about crosses or holy water, Anderson is going to use razor sharp bayonets to impale Dio with or cut him to pieces. Also Anderson is a Paladin, they can see into other planes of existence. He might be able to see Dio's stand and effect it with his power.
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same for DIO he can regenerate at an amazing speed also his stand is fast enough to stop a bullet at point blank range and both dio and his stand are strong enough to lift a road roller. But in retrospect the match would be quite an even match.
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Possibly, though who is the more skilled fighter will decide the outcome. How old is DIO?
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well that depends. If we count until the day he got killed (by the mc) that would be until 1989, so his age would be 119 years(since he gained his vampire powers in 1890) old. But to be fair he was asleep for nearly 100 years and he only had a stand for a few years after he awakend. But in those few years he became the most powerfull stand user on the planet bested only by the MC. true Anderson may have more battle experience but DIO didint became the strongest by sheer force of luck. He is not only powerfull but highly intelligent using tactics and wits in battles instead of random power ups and he isint overly depended on his stand power. He is master tactician, a good example would that after only a few months after he became a vampire he was able to beat some of the strongest ripple warriors( fighters who with special breathin technique harnes the power of the sun). These warriors have been training for nearly theire entire life but DIO using his wits and strenght easily beat them.
So again the fight could go either way but if youre thinking that Anderson could be DIO with ease then you are surely mistaken.
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The fight would sadly cause Dio to win.
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Anderson is well over 129 years, and has been fighting vampires since he was a teen. I don't think the hundred year sleep would give DIO alot of combat experience. I would expect DiO wouldn't have been the strongest Stand-user by pure luck but Anderson is also extremely cunning and highly intelligent in his own right, especially when it comes to combat as he's known no other life outside of that for over a 129 years.
I never said Anderson would beat him easily, no fights are, but he is very likely to beat him.
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Wow. This was... this was really an entertaining argument, I must say.
I thought about who would win in such a fight but after a long while, sadly I believe Dio would win in this fight. Stopping time would kind of do that.
True, Anderson has holy relics, but he cannot see Dio's Stand. That in itself would be part of his downfall.
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It should be noted that JoJo vampire aren't harmed by holy relics. The only way to kill a JoJo vampire is with sunlight(super powerful UV lamps will also suffice), or with Hamon/Sendo/The Ripple(a breathing technique that also happens to let you punch sunlight at vampires).
JoJo vampires can also survive being decapitated, until the 1980 he was reduced to a head by his adoptive brother, his head is now attached to that man's body.
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Or hurt DIO's Stand. Granted Anderson is vulnerable to the punches of The World( Stand of DIO).
Also I don't think his Blessed blades will Hurt DIO that much. The Nail might.
Holy Relics don't hurt JoJo vampires. Only sunlight or the Ripple/Hamon/Sendo(three names for one thing actually).
But yeah Anderson could win, but the odds are stacked against him.
Victory is possible just really difficult to achieve.
Victory would be impossible for Anderson if he was fighting Giorno(DIO's son) with GER.
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Depends on how you view.
I looked up Dio, I still stand by that Anderson would win this battle.
It's not the holy relics that's the problem, Anderson's a paladin, he can see supernatural entities such as spirits or demons and harms them. He will be able to see Dio's stand and attack it.
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While possible in its own right, Dio will still trump Anderson. Time-stopping aside, let's look at the original Dio Brando, before he got the power of The World, after he put on the Stone Mask, and before he snatched Jonathan Joestar's body.
Dio is neither a Twilight variety vampire -something I would honestly pay Anderson to kill- nor the Hellsing variety. He, however, is the kind of monster that Anderson dedicated his life to slaying, especially because of how his vampirism works. To use the the Stone Mask, one must coat it in fresh blood... a feat Dio performed when he slew George Joestar, his adoptive father. He became a vampire not through accepting a bite, but through cold-blooded murder.
Even then, while the JJBA are vampires, far more vunerable to sunlight and purifying energy, Dio, in the first part, developed a technique to not only stave off that power, but also cancel it out and overwhelm it be freezing the blood and body of his foes through mere touch alone, like living liquid nitrogen. He can still catch and stop Anderson's blades barehanded, taking a blow in favor of cancelling out that purifying energy.
If Part 3 Dio, with the power to stop time with The World, would lose, then I garuntee that part 1 Dio, whom took a bullet to the skull and regenerated from it in the same instant, whom could freeze blood from mere touch, and only lost to his foes because Jotaro developed the power of stopping time as well would defeat, dominate, and decimate Father Alexander Anderson.
Anderson would earn Dio's respect for the effort though, something VERY hard to do.
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Power won't really mean anything if he can't hit or kill Anderson, especially considering Anderson might be the more skilled fighter.
I know, I read up on him. He's still a supernatural being.
There is no frame of reference that Anderson can't see or hurt Dio's stand or Dio himself with his powers. As for freezing Anderson how do we know his powers can effect Anderson, and if they do he needs to hit Anderson, Anderson won't let him have a chance. Catching Anderson's blades would be incredibly stupid because they explode. Freezing would take longer on a regenerator giving Anderson time to cut of his frozen limbs and grow new ones.
Anderson's bayonets are a lot deadlier than bullets especially to supernatural beings like vampires.
Considering Anderson's speed and swordsmanship skills he would have closed the distance between him and Dio in an instant and slice him up before Dio could react and stop time.
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... You are wrong, sir, and your stubbornness on this matter astounds me. You are blinded by what I can only describe as 'fan-ism' for Anderson, just as I am "blinded" by fan-ism for Dio. I've not only looked him up, I've read the manga and watched the OVA, and the same goes for Anderson. He doesn't just freeze the body, he freezes the blood, slowing the movement of his foes down to a crawl, if not outright freezing limbs in place.
Also, Dio CAN react in an instant. One of his own subordinates, Hol Horse, quietly and carefully tried to do him in with his own Stand, with his back turned. He simply 'moved' out of the way, with The World assisting minorly, considering he didn't shout the Stand's name.
And as said, regardless of holy powers, only Stand users can see other Stands. So, working back to The World on that note, Anderson can't regenerate something still part of his body, at least not in an instant, correct? Anderson has shown in the manga and OVA by having to resort to Helena's Nail to not be able to take TOO much punishment to anything but his limbs.
The World has shown quite clearly that it, and Dio, can gut a man in a single PUNCH, so imagine when that fist goes and rips out Anderson's still-beating heart and squeezes it until it stops beating. Regenerator or not, that's the pump of blood throughout the body, helping send blood to the brain, which is connected to the nerves which, in turn, send signals for his body to regenerate. And I'm not giving a 'what if' thing. Dio WOULD do this.
I can understand wanting whom among the two is the good guy -Anderson in this case- to win, but he can't. Even Jonathan Joestar, whom beat Dio briefly, did so through luck, and Dio did come back as a living severed head and possess his body.
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You accuse another for having a opinion as "stubbornness". While you may admit to yourself having the same fault it is not a good idea to make judgements like that about people, kills the conversation.
How do you know Anderson isn't faster, considering the man can outstrip vampires who can appear and disappear with their speed.
In the world of JoJo's Bizarre Adventures yes, but Anderson's a paladin from the Hellsing universe. They can see things that are really there, that would include stands.
Anderson's limbs were shot by the Jackal, the Jackal is designed to interfere with the regeneration process and prevent beings like Anderson from healing, anything else Anderson can recover from in an instant.
So can Anderson, he's also superhumanly strong. And durable enough to withstand blows from beings like Alucard without even being fazed. Regeneration speeds up cell division throughout the body to replace missing or destroyed cells, Anderson could very well replace his heart assuming Dio could manage to punch through his superhumanly strong muscles and bones.
Anderson a good guy? Technically he is but the guy is also certifiably insane.
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Thinking about it... I'm curious as to where you've gathered your facts. Anderson is never stated to have an age, but it's been guessed 60 years of age. ... Where does it state that paladins from Hellsing can see things that aren't really there?
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What I know of Paladins and the fact that Anderson has been hunting down supernatural beings for at least over 90 years perhaps longer judging from his age when Maxwell, Yumie and Henkeil were kids. No they are in their twenties or thirties and Anderson still looks in his thirties thanks to the regeneration process. Anderson has invoked divine powers before, and hunted beings such as ghosts and demons which cannot be seen be normal means.
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Manga wise... Anderson's hair is actually silver/grey. Blonde hair came from the anime.
Never in any format however, does it describe what a Hellsing Paladin exactly is.
A normal Paladin: any one of the 12 legendary peers or knightly champions in attendance on Charlemagne.
any knightly or heroic champion.
any determined advocate or defender of a noble cause.
... So going by that, we'll say a Hellsing Paladin is a defender of the church, and hunts down the supernatural. Alright, I can see that then. However... the supernatural in itself, I would see as... you said, ghosts, ghouls, demons.
That's out of the way.
Still, in either manga or anime, it never states how old Anderson is, nor does it state how old he was when he went into the regenerator process.
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He's definitely lived a lot longer than that, and considering he's a superhuman Anderson is most likely older than he looks.
A Paladin is a holy warrior able to invoke divine powers in the Hellsing universe, which Anderson does on several occasions. He's a fictional Paladin.
Yes, and Anderson possesses the ability to detect and destroy beings of that nature, your point?
That is left to the reader, judging from how old he was when he brought up Maxwell, Henkeil, and Yumie and the fact he hasn't aged since then he is most likely well over 90 or possibly 100
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Let's just agree to disagree, even as we keep debating, okay? That's the only solution I can think of to this.
I know Anderson isn't faster because his Stand is stated to be slightly faster than another Stand, Star Platinum, which is stated to move at the speed of light. Add that with stopping time and somehow being able to move so far in just a measly five seconds of frozen time, and then that getting longer the stronger he gets... Until or unless Anderson uses the Nail, he's... he's gonna have a far more rough time than Alucard would dish out with all his magic.
Superhumanly strong? Last a checked, his big thing was being to able to regenerate, not be a Resident Evil Tyrant. XD He's kinda like Wesker, though, isn't he?
He's a good guy compared to Dio Brando, whom burned his adopted brother's pet dog to break him, whom promised a woman he wouldn't lay on her infant child, then vampirized her and watched as she ate her own child, technically yet evilly keeping his word.
I still live by my verdict. Dio would win... and then Anderson would use the Nail and fuck him up if he lived through the battle. XD
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Unless he strikes Dio before the stand activates. Considering the damage Anderson can take he can withstand the Stand's attacks while closing in on Dio. Or put barriers up to protect him against the stand.
All of Anderson's physical abilities are enhanced to superhuman levels in addition to his regeneration. In fact he may be physically stronger and faster than Alucard.
Well there's that, if Anderson found that out he would inflict ungodly amounts of pain on Dio for that sin.
I stand by mine, Anderson really wouldn't need to use the nail against Dio. He only used against Alucard because of the Jackal and the frustration he felt at Alucard.
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That's the thing, no one can strike Dio -okay, big exaggeration on my part- before he activates his Stand, aside from the one kid, Jotaro Kujo, who had a similar Stand. He's been struck, but never killed in a single hit. And the Stand is a close-range Stand. Getting close is the LAST thing Anderson should do.
Er... right... that's why he had to pull out the Nail and use it... Well, may be stronger, but not faster than Alucard. Then again, Alucard's appeal is sheer magic power. In the original anime, Anderson did have the upper hand, even decapitating Alucard, until Alucard started spamming his magic. So, yeah, I could see that. Physically, he's stronger and faster than Alucard, yet Alucard has all that black magic.
Oh, heck YEAH he would try to! It would fuel resolve for the much epic of battles! XD That's not factoring in his kin-slaying, poisoning his biological and adoptive father, and killing the latter physically to become a vampire when that failed. Anderson would be BEYOND ticked off, I'm sure.
Regardless of whom wins, it would be pretty darn close, I have to say.
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He's never encountered Anderson before. Getting in close is the best thing Anderson could do, strike before he can react in close quarters combat. At long range he could freeze time but considering he doesn't know Anderson's a superhuman that would catch him off guard.
He used the Nail because of the injuries he sustained which he couldn't regenerate from. He closed the distance between himself and Alucard in a split second from across the room and grabbed him before he could react, that qualifies as faster. Alucard was taken by surprise by Anderson, it's more personal vampiric power than external magic. Which is why Alucard needed the Jackal.
Despite his religious fanticism Anderson has a strong moral compass.
I agree with that.
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And Anderson has not encountered Dio Brando before. Both of them have advantage in close combat and regeneration. Not sure who is better on speed, though. I like Dio, and I think he'd have advantage with his Stand, however, at the same time, Anderson is less bulky with his own muscles, so he's likely to have more maneuverability.
Just a question, but... could Anderson survive as a severed head, or would he still need the heart and lungs? I know Dio could, and has, but I've never seen Anderson in such a position.
That aside, Dio's vampirism is explained as "reaching and exceeding the peak of human potential". It's odd. Also... there's a part 1 power I forgot and just remembered. I don't know why, but he was given the ability to fire pressurized eye fluid like Superman's heat vision, slicing all in the fluid's path. It was apparently powerful enough to slice apart a boulder that was a few yards in diameter, and cut much like Walter's wires. Very weird power.
So true. I mean, it could not have been easy essentially condemning Maxwell, someone he raised from childhood, to death for his selfishness. Dio on the other hand? He'll have no problem putting down like a dog, in terms of decisions.
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No, but he's encountered vampires and can tell one from looking at them. Anderson has more of a advantage in close combat thanks to his sword skills and the fact he wields more than one bayonet. Dio would have an advantage with his stand if he can invoke in time, or if he even starts out with it in the beginning. I doubt he would bring out his trump card in the beginning of the fight against an unknown opponent, and with a sadist like him he would try to toy with Anderson where as Anderson wouldn't waste time and be on him in a flash.
His entire body sends out signals to regenerate, his brain is perfectly capable of sending out signals even with no blood going to it due to being sustained by the regeneration process. Theoretically he could.
Anderson is beyond the very peak of human potential as well, he's called a "superhuman" for a reason. Interesting power, seems like this guy pulls new ones out of his rear each time, but having superhuman reflexes would allow you to dodge it. Just as Jan dodged Walter's wires, and Anderson's reflexes are beyond Jan's.
That's our religious fanatic.
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.............
Wow what even did I just read.
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Someone's arguming who's trying to make Anderson far more powerful than he actually is?
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And at the same time declaring Anderson to be the good-guy out of the two.. xD
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We had this discussion on Plurk (weird name I know) and we agreed that.... even the Anderson fans, fighting Dio would cause him to lose. It's a fight he can't win.
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this was a cool conversation to follow XD. I've never been able to have a jojo conversation nobody i know knows about jojo so this was really fun 
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Lol. Giorno used to be my fave... now it's Josuke and Jonathan in a tie.
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No one likes Jonathan -shot- I kid XD
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Don't diss Jonathan Joestar. XD
"With my shivering heart, and this burning heat, slice him, beat of my blood! SUNLIGHT YELLOW OVERDRIVE!!"
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The frame of reference is clearly stated. Only Stand users can see another Stand.
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They haven't encountered Paladins before. Paladins are able to see things that are really there, such as extrademensional beings which is what stands are.
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Whether or not he sees The World doesn't matter.
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Actually it does, he can see what lives on that plane of existance. What is invisible to normal human eyes like ghosts or spirits he can see.
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No. You missed the point. It doesn't matter.
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Actually it does, in addition to seeing them he can effect them with the divine powers he invokes. Also if he can see the stand he can avoid it and concentrate on attacking Dio.
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