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wheaman [2009-04-15 22:03:54 +0000 UTC]

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red5 In reply to wheaman [2009-04-16 19:06:24 +0000 UTC]

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JeremyBrettFan [2007-01-31 08:34:01 +0000 UTC]

I really like the colouring, and even though I'm not American, I understand the pride that's in a nation's flag. Xx.

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red5 In reply to JeremyBrettFan [2007-02-05 21:01:42 +0000 UTC]



thanks for the compliments.

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Bolognist [2006-09-29 22:30:16 +0000 UTC]

so?.....the symbol of worldwide terror?

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red5 In reply to Bolognist [2006-10-02 16:06:20 +0000 UTC]

ah, no...

symbol of freedom.

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Bolognist In reply to red5 [2006-10-02 16:46:15 +0000 UTC]

symbol of freedom?.....symbol of the biggest terroristnation on earth?....how very alike those two different things can sound.

what country on earth kills most innocent ppl?....is that freedom?....then I dont want to be free....thats for sure...
haveyou as an american ever noticed that ur country actually has got some problems.....for example...you claim to be the most democratic nation on earth....do the afroamericans agree?....how many percent of them votes in ur free democratic nation?...
you have a voting system that makes it possible for a president to get fewer votes than another candidate and still win....he got more states....and the right ones....isnt it better to count the total number of votes?...yes it is offcourse better.

well....u see....for anyone in a modern european country that looks at your country and thinks more than once, its obvious that ur not the free worlds soldier.....ur just a big nation gone crazy in its belief of being biggest, strongest and free-est on earth.....so crazy that u forgot what you fought for in the beggining...

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red5 In reply to Bolognist [2006-10-02 17:46:54 +0000 UTC]

the united states does not intentionally kill innocent people.
the innocents that have died, died in wars. the government does everything it can to avoid civilian deaths even creating 'smart bombs' to limit collatoral damage.
and to be sure...we don't line people up and put them in mass graves like iraq, soviet union, communist china, communist vietnam, communist cambodia, communist north korea, and so on.
the united states is a democratic republic. republic is the key word. the system is set up this way because each state is an independent republic that belongs to a federal government. so every vote is counted in each state. and if you get win the popular vote in that state you win the state. each state has a number of electoral votes based on it's population. so you can win the popular vote, and still lose the election. it's fair and it's worked for over two hundred years. much better than most governments. the presidency is balanced out by by senate and congressional districts that are won on the poplar vote so that even if a president wins the national election based on electoral voting, congressman and senators can balance out the president and be able to override most of the decisions that he/she makes. checks and balances...read up on that.
btw, is the united states government perfect. no. but what government is?

about african americans votes? the same as everyone elses. maybe not fifty years ago but we've overcome that with the civil rights movement of the 60's and would not have happened without lyndon johnson and a republican controlled congress. but to say that any person or agency of the government keeps any person from voting nowadays is a flat out lie and propaganda. what percentage of people vote in america? i don't know but it certainly isn't high enough and if someone doesn't vote it's b/c they choose not to. not b/c someone is keeping them from doing it.

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Bolognist In reply to red5 [2006-10-02 18:44:26 +0000 UTC]

in wars?....what kind of wars is it that the US have been part of on the latest?....attacking wars...owh...well...did they make anything better?....and did the US have any real reason for the wars?....NO and NO...

"and to be sure...we don't line people up and put them in mass graves like iraq, soviet union, communist china, communist vietnam, communist cambodia, communist north korea, and so on."
Plz dont use the communist term like that....the countries call themselves that yes....they ARE not...
and for the second part....I would not care how I was killed as long as it was done by someone without a pldidly good reason(is there any legal reason to kill anyone?)

and about the US system.... well....why dont you just have separate elections for the states and for the entire federation of states...the US then?...owh....the key word is not republic. the ey word you wrote yourself actually....or its more a key sentence....

"it's worked for over two hundred years"....

it is actually an old system....too old...to much not modern....it should need a refreshment....and to me...its stupid to discuss...its to obvious to discuss....
and you say its worked better than most.....in what ways can you say it works better or as good as the eurpean systems....over here the average percentage of ppl voting is somewhere between 70-80 %....in sweden we have never had it below 80%. and guess what....we have what you dont....we have separate elections for the regions in sweden and for the entire country....and more internationally.... the European Union which is on its way towards a new modernized united states(like it or not, I dont like it...but that another story....ask about it if you want to...its rather interresting)... uses separate elections for its parliament and for the memberstates.
ey we rock your system.......

you know....ppl dont vote when they think that there for some reason is no point in doing so....why do they feel so?... according to serious research I have seen the numbers of black voters in southern US mostly.... barely votes at all...the ercentage that votes there is terribly low....much much lower than the rest of the US....cos they dont feel there is any point in voting....
USA have a sytem which we in sweden would call something like the 3/4 system. it means that the 3/4 of the population which have enough money get perfect healthcare and good nice schools and so on.....the last quarter of the population doesnt. they dont have enough money for the ensurances and such.....interresting.....its the same ppl that doesnt vote.
that is one of the problems in a capitalistic society.

"congressman and senators can balance out the president and be able to override most of the decisions that he/she makes. checks and balances"....hey I know how the US system works....we in sweden actually(as all european countries as we got almost the same educational system).....learn about all bigger countries in the world and their electionel systems, how the country looks, work....what resources you have....how you elect ur president....if you have a king....all of it...this is something you study fro 1st class junior and through the coming 12 years of school.

lol....about school sytems....and education....
I saw this really funny interview series where a swedish jounralist in new york asked ppl where on teh map this terrible Iraq which the US was warring against was situated.....5 out of 100 adults knew it....in sweden it would have been like 98/100....LOL

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red5 In reply to Bolognist [2006-10-02 20:04:30 +0000 UTC]

did we make anything better?

how about the fact your national language isn't german or russian.

in regards to voting...it's still a choice that they make on whether or not they vote. on european countries having high voting percentages...65% in our last national election. not bad considering how big the us is. some states had voting percentages over 90% some lower than 40%. when you have a smaller country, it's much easier to have a higher voting percentage b/c people feel more involved mostly b/c they probably have a family member, friend, or friend of a friend that is a member of the government.

school and education...well in some parts of our country it's excellent. other parts of the country, it's laughable. when it comes to journalism or journalist, most lean left and already have a bias or antiamerican setiment. it also depends on where exactly he is in our country that'll affect his poll.
in the neighborhood i grew up in, 99/100 would've known where iraq is. in other neighborhoods, i don't know. maybe no one would know.

health care? no health care systme is perfect. canada is going bankrupt from it's socialist health care system, and the people are sick of being overtaxed. that's why they're starting to elect more conservative officials. same with many other countries.

every day i wake up i thank god that i was born in the united states. i feel like i won the lottery every day i go to work. we've got a low unemployment rate of 4.2%, any person can do whtever they want to do with their life. here. wanna be rich, work hard and go for it. wanna sit on your ass and mooch off the system...go for it. if you take responsibility for yourself and work hard, you can accomplish anything here. the problem is not everyone wants to work hard and take responsibility for themselves. as for those who can't take care of themselves? there are government programs and charities to help them. the problem with that is there are too many people cheating the system, because they don't want to work and they're taking money from those who really need it.

i've been to sweden when i was little. beautiful country and beautiful people.

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Bolognist In reply to red5 [2006-10-02 20:38:18 +0000 UTC]

"did we make anything better?

how about the fact your national language isn't german or russian."

for one thing....dont take it so natural that US was the sole saviours of the ww2....it was as much the russians....the evil soviet....even though they might have had less good reasons........

And have I said anything about the ww2?.....I talked about modern or more modern warfare....like after ww2....
think vietnam, afghanistan x 2, Iraq x 2.....and all the small coups which the US have been helping in tons of states around the world....that mostly wasnt democratic and in many cases worked against the democratic forces.

"people feel more involved mostly b/c they probably have a family member, friend, or friend of a friend that is a member of the government."....lol.....we are not that small.......and whatabout countries in europe such as germany, france, GB, spain, italy?...those are really big countries.....and the EU is far bigger in population than the US....

"we've got a low unemployment rate of 4.2%"
again...check what the afroamericans, the llegal hispanics, latins and so on work with and what their employment rates are....you have to sociaeties....one where everything works....one where it doesnt...

"the problem is not everyone wants to work hard and take responsibility for themselves. as for those who can't take care of themselves?" the first lie of a capitalistic nation....
as the capitalism works....not all ppl start on the same level in society....in many cases its near impossible to work your way up from there...

and finally....yeah.....we rule.......owh....you wanna know a funny thing?....sweden has been ruled by leftwing parties for almost all of the 20th century....and guees what?....it works.......

FINALLY AGAIN!!.....lol.....if the democrates of USA was a swedish party we would have called them fascists....extremeright wing party or such....populist party........our parites most to the right would be called leftwing parties in USA...

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red5 In reply to Bolognist [2006-10-02 20:46:09 +0000 UTC]

your facts are incorrect.

you should really stop reading left wing propaganda. you know, journalist that fake photos like in reuters during the recent conflict between the isrealis and hezbollah.

i don't have the time to debate this anymore. i have this thing called work to do.

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LukeInferno In reply to red5 [2008-10-31 07:10:10 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry you even had to get into that debate with someone who obviously had the choice of not commenting childishly on the picture in the first place. That says a lot about him: picking a fight because he doesn't agree with your beliefs.

Very nice picture though. It's not only symbolic, but serene, inspiring, and aesthetically pleasing.

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red5 In reply to LukeInferno [2008-10-31 20:13:56 +0000 UTC]

ahhh, communists. they just want to shut everyone up don't they?

Thank you for your comment about the photography!

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LukeInferno In reply to red5 [2008-10-31 21:17:17 +0000 UTC]

So very true. lol. Too bad liberty kicks commy butt anyday!

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red5 In reply to LukeInferno [2008-10-31 23:02:23 +0000 UTC]

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Bolognist In reply to red5 [2006-10-02 21:00:25 +0000 UTC]

haha....work....lol.....sorry for your sake........well...I gotta study....I actually do tat now......Allah akbar kinda it is right now...

owh.....you know....on that my facts were not incorrect........its different sources of information yes. but that wasnt from communist propaganda.....it was from wellknown historybooks and other stuf.....damn....I would be stupid if I read and believed propaganda....as stupid as you are if you believe in Fox news...

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StudioVision [2006-09-23 21:09:11 +0000 UTC]

Freedom, is the only way to live. It's worth dreaming about, and worth fighting for.

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red5 In reply to StudioVision [2006-09-26 22:41:00 +0000 UTC]

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JimField [2006-09-12 09:27:02 +0000 UTC]

Indeed a great symbol for many people

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red5 In reply to JimField [2006-09-18 19:46:33 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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hphoto [2006-09-08 01:32:26 +0000 UTC]

Nice one!

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red5 In reply to hphoto [2006-09-18 19:57:45 +0000 UTC]

yessss!

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iamtsu [2006-09-06 19:25:25 +0000 UTC]

Hooah. This is great picture, it is inspiring yet apathetic.

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red5 In reply to iamtsu [2006-09-18 19:58:47 +0000 UTC]

hooah!

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wese [2006-09-06 18:17:47 +0000 UTC]

thats awesome!
its like off to war with the contrails in the background!

good stuff!

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red5 In reply to wese [2006-09-18 19:59:06 +0000 UTC]

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cappaholic [2006-09-06 17:55:27 +0000 UTC]

Great perpective and lighting, but the jet streams are a bit distracting.

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red5 In reply to cappaholic [2006-09-18 20:00:24 +0000 UTC]

thanks for your critique but the jetstreams behind the flag were the reason to shoot it. maybe i could've done it better, but my wife and i were at a gas station on our way home from az and i snapped it at the last second before we took off.

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cappaholic In reply to red5 [2006-09-18 21:01:09 +0000 UTC]

Still a cool shot.

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red5 In reply to cappaholic [2006-09-18 22:21:27 +0000 UTC]

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battlefield1010 [2006-09-06 17:36:00 +0000 UTC]

The stars and stripes!

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red5 In reply to battlefield1010 [2006-09-18 20:00:38 +0000 UTC]

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