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Published: 2018-09-12 02:11:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 16477; Favourites: 407; Downloads: 47
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I couldn't draw just ONE picture of Iron Spider MJ, now could I?
Also, just kind of wanted to give reference to what I was thinking of. Spidey and MJ go on a "Date night," with her donning the costume to do a little web slinging alongside Peter, and wackiness ensues.
Although know that I think of it, now that I've done this image, Marvel's even less likely to do something like that now, since they wouldn't want to look like they are stealing ideas from fans.
Maybe shot myself in the foot with that one there...
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I like the this picture and all the others of Iron Spider MJ you have shown thus far.
Did you plan on making one with her having the mask on?
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They sure do like using a lot of webbing on date nights
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Beautiful scene! Not those are the kind of swingers I'd like to see in the pages of Spidey's comics!
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Excellent work. You treat both characters with far more respect than Marvel Comics these days. (Seriously, do they think readers will appreciate a Peter Parker who's a perpetual loser?)
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I think Spider-Man's been treated very respectfully by Marvel these past few months. Far more than he was under Slott's direction.
Just because Spider-Man doesn't have a magic tech job anymore that makes it easier for him to be both Peter Parker and Spider-Man to the point where there isn't any drama to the situation doesn't mean he isn't being treated respectfully. Especially since Spencer has had Spider-Man be presented as far more competent, insightful, thoughtful, resourceful, cunning, compassionate and mature than he has been under Slott.
Spencer's Spider-Man is not someone who is shown zero sympathy whatsoever, even in his darkest hour. He's not someone who is criticized for not making the perfect decision, every time, or just not being perfect in general, while giving some other pet character a pass for all the negative deeds they did. And Spencer's Spider-Man is actually able to save the day on his own, rather than have another hero save the day FOR him.
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I wouldn't worry about Marvel ripping the idea of.
They've done it to fans before, if I'm remembering right.
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Hey, given all your old comics poking fun at Superior Spider-Man, I was wondering if I could get your thoughts on something.
I asked this question on Twitter to a comic reviewer named Professor Thorgi (twitter.com/Aros0011/status/10… ). Basically, other than Anna Maria and Ock now having powers, was there anything you can think of that Dan Slott established in his ASM run that was still there at the end of it?
Parker Inc and all the new gadgets are gone. Peter again works at the Bugle, not Horizon Labs. Aunt May is a widow again. Black Cat is no longer a crime boss. Carlie Cooper left New York completely. Someone had to remind me Alpha was even a thing. Jonah's no longer mayor. Doc Ock and Silver Stable both came back to life. Eddie Brock is Venom again. Norman Osborn is right on the road to becoming the Green Goblin again.
The only things that Thorgi could point out were Silk as a new character and Flash Thompson is now dead.
But as for Peter, his world, and his story, what's changed? What's developed? At the beginning of Slott's run Peter was broke, alone, working at the Bugle, and taking care of his elderly widowed aunt and at the end of Slott's run Peter is...broke, alone, working at the Bugle, and taking care of his elderly widowed aunt.
Yeah, stuff happened in the Dan Slott run, but all it's seemed to have amounted to is just an inch changed in what Peter's overall world looks like now. After a ten year run and almost nothing, no growth, to show for it. We are right back where we started.
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Notice how Slott's run started with the Status Quo of Spider-Man, and ended with it. That's how always will be.
Gwen Stacey was killed because Marvel felt Peter having a relationship made him feel 'too old' to be a popular character. They fetched in MJ as a temp character, but she clicked too well for her to just be a temporary thing, so she stayed. That became the new SQ, until things started getting more serious- ever since they got married, things started fluctuating all over the place.
She left then came back, ad nauseam until Marvel decided to axe the marriage with One More Day. Despite all the hate for it, Quesada's version of that abomination was the *Better* of the two ideas- because JMS' version was from what I remember of it an abomination against nature that would've crashed Spidey's sales to a dangerous degree.
Slott came in for the fresh-slate, farted around for a decade or so while the character achieved... nothing lasting. Sure, there were some memorable things- and the glory that was The Superior Foes of Spider-Man -but he left with a blank-slate for the character.
In the end, Spidey will always end up with nothing, because to achieve anything would make him feel 'too old'.
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Can someone murder the staff of Marvel who love fucking Peter Parker?
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Are you asking if that is a good thing or a bad thing?
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Well, I know some stuff like Carlie and villain Black Cat weren't popular with fans, but other things like Aunt May being remarried to Jonah Sr and Peter's career taking him back into science work, while not explored as much as they could have been during Slott's time, were still things fan could accept and another writer could do more with the concepts.
It's just, you have this guy who was on a series for ten years, by his own insistence, and nothing lasting has been added. We have Silk (who has her own series outside of Peter's), Anna Maria, and Ock now having spider-powers. That's it.
So my question kind of a two parter.
1. Was there anything in Dan Slott's run that he established that was still there at the end of it that I'm forgetting?
2. And yeah, is it good or bad that a ten year run kind of just wasted everyone's time?
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I kind of regard it as both a bad and good thing.
It's bad in that pretty much 10 years of time was wasted. That instead of focusing on characters and plots and developments the fans would care about, instead Slott was more focused on trying to make his fan fiction canon, and trying to get "The most issues" because his time on the book was clearly more about his satisfaction rather than our own. That rather than trying to spend time resolving the Peter and MJ relationship, or focus on characters, or trying to tell stories of value, Slott would rather try to twist the narrative into something completely unrecognizable, all because he wanted to ensure his legacy.
But it's good because it means the book isn't bogged down by any of Slott's poor additions to the franchise. Simply put, the "Science jobs" just showed how little Slott understood and cared for the characters. Peter's positions at Horizon and Parker Industries could have been interesting character studies as to what would happen if Peter finds a bit of mainstream success. Or have a character study where Peter debates what he truly wants out of life, and if Parker Industries is really him living up to his potential. Instead, Slott was more interested in using them as avenues to give Peter toys, special vehicles and costumes, with no greater meaning behind it. Slott just wanted Peter to have special magic costumes and gadgets, because he had a shallow, superficial understanding of both the character and the mythos.
I know people like the "Science Job," and felt that it was Peter finally using his brains. But the thing of it was- he wasn't. That's the bitter irony. Peter's "Science jobs" didn't make him using his brain MORE. It had him use it LESS.
First of all, with the whole Horizon Labs thing, it was massively unethical for Peter to essentially steal the hard work of his coworkers for his own purposes. Yes, he was using it to save lives. But they were still resources that he stole without consulting the people who developed them, and did not reveal their purpose. Sure, Max Modell eventually gave him the OK to use Horizon's resources as Spider-Man's "Tech Guy," but that was long after it KEPT happening, and it still doesn't excuse Peter's questionable morals in using resources he didn't develop or earn for his own ends, and misleading his employers. And he didn't even wait that long to do so.
Second, Peter's "Science jobs" didn't see him using his own brains to solve problems. Instead, it was the Horizon crew, or Anna Marie Marconi, or his employees, that would do the science FOR him. Whereas before Peter would have used his own brains to come up with an antidote, or develop a gadget or Macgyver a solution together, these tasks were then fobbed off to other people so THEY could save the day, essentially making Spider-Man pointless in his own book. It's pretty bad when Peter Parker, a man who keeps being presented as a genius scientist, needs someone ELSE to convert something as simple as miles to kilometers FOR him.
The "Science Jobs" didn't do anything for Peter. So I don't regret their loss. And I certainly don't find myself weeping for most of Slott's "Contributions" being junked and ignored. It was his fault for focusing more on style rather than substance. Sizzle rather than steak. When you give people nothing but junk food, they may be satisfied for a while. But eventually they'll end up sick and regretting every minute of it.
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Nearly the past 11 years is some form of hell for a genuine Spider-Man fan who read the earliest run.
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