HOME | DD

Roysovitch — Network Files - The Divine Presence

Published: 2020-04-21 12:54:24 +0000 UTC; Views: 3076; Favourites: 63; Downloads: 0
Redirect to original
Description Author's Note:
This deviation refers to figures which are key, central, or recurring figures in real-world religions. I come from a religious background myself and I understand how fictional interpretations of these figures can cause some persons discomfort. If you feel you are such a person, please proceed with caution. it is not my intent to anger or provoke anyone. I am not seeking to belittle or mock your faith, nor am I endorsing any religion's veracity or validity by using these characters in my works. These characters exist in DC Comics' lore, as do a number of other religious figures, and for that reason, they are included here and have been adapted to serve the narrative of Earth-27, as well as its unique cosmology.
Related content
Comments: 28

NO-SoupForYou [2021-10-05 14:15:10 +0000 UTC]

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Danny-Buckle [2020-05-24 10:13:39 +0000 UTC]

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

Roysovitch In reply to Danny-Buckle [2020-05-24 16:24:44 +0000 UTC]

👍: 1 ⏩: 0

Callian31 [2020-04-23 21:35:52 +0000 UTC]

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Jedi-Paladin-AJ-Ray [2020-04-22 07:03:12 +0000 UTC]

I'm happy with how you where able to introduce a main important character in the DC universe as a whole. 

👍: 1 ⏩: 0

Ninja-Jedi [2020-04-22 05:30:32 +0000 UTC]

With Wally I'm reminded of a song called "What if God was one of us."

👍: 1 ⏩: 0

delta808th [2020-04-22 01:40:55 +0000 UTC]

👍: 1 ⏩: 1

Roysovitch In reply to delta808th [2020-04-22 04:02:23 +0000 UTC]

A) I only had so much room
B) Jesus pretty much limits it to a Christian theology
C) Jesus is not the son of the Presence in DC canon
D) Jesus is not the son of the Presence in Earth-27 (he's the grandson)
E) Jesus being deceased bumped him off the list when space ran out

Take your pick of answers.

👍: 1 ⏩: 3

delta808th In reply to Roysovitch [2020-04-23 16:56:51 +0000 UTC]

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

delta808th In reply to Roysovitch [2020-04-23 16:42:22 +0000 UTC]

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

Roysovitch In reply to delta808th [2020-04-23 17:20:14 +0000 UTC]

A) I thought you had nothing to say about "A)"... I'm sorry, but the Presence's relationship with Lucifer and the other archangels is a core part of several stories. Jesus of Nazareth is not a character in Earth-27 (at this time, not sure he will be), in so much as he is not appearing in any stories in the series.

B) I know he is mentioned in Jewish and Islamic lore, but did you notice I incorporated more than Judeo-Christian-Islam lore into the Presence? My interpretation of the Presence is not simply the Judeo-Christian God, nor is he Allah. He represents a multitude of monotheistic (and some polytheistic) concepts and figures. He is also based on a comic book character from multiple comic book continuities and even some television series.

C) Hellblazer made it clear that Jesus of Nazareth is the biological son of Gabriel, the Archangel (which is taken from Islamic scripture). No other instance that I am aware of definitely states the circumstances of Jesus' conception. Also, Wildstorm's origin of Jesus is that he was a "Planetary Shaman." That was also factored into Earth-27's concepts.

D) Ummm, it is correct to say. I created Earth-27. I know what is and is not canon. You are clearly not familiar with the cosmological aspects of Earth-27. If you are insulted by calling Jesus the grandson of the Presence, then I ask you to refer to note of this deviation. I am not writing a religious treatise here. I am writing a source of entertainment.

E) ... That is your opinion. Historians disagree. Atheists disagree. Some agnostics disagree. In fact, more people on Earth disagree with that statement than agree.

I took all that into consideration. I'm sorry if you feel insulted, but I think that says more about you and an inability to consider the beliefs of others or an inability to separate religious beliefs from entertainment. No atheist or agnostic has yet criticized my use of the Presence, the angels, prophets, or the existence of other gods like the Greek Pantheon or the Egyptian Gods. In fact, many agnostics and atheists have praised my inclusion of religious figures, as have many Christians. There is no Christian doctrine that forbids the depiction of God like Islam with Muhammed; in fact, different denominations of Christianity encourage the belief that God is different for every person. I believe I've been respectful. If you feel insulted, then I encourage you to follow the direction in my deviation's noted disclaimer: "please proceed with caution."

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

delta808th In reply to Roysovitch [2020-04-23 20:19:26 +0000 UTC]

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

Roysovitch In reply to delta808th [2020-04-23 20:54:12 +0000 UTC]

No worries. I don't regard you as a fanatic.

👍: 1 ⏩: 0

amethystangel228 In reply to Roysovitch [2020-04-22 04:10:16 +0000 UTC]

I opt for F) All of the above.

👍: 4 ⏩: 1

Roysovitch In reply to amethystangel228 [2020-04-22 04:31:28 +0000 UTC]

You found the secret answer!

👍: 2 ⏩: 0

kalel32688 [2020-04-21 22:09:53 +0000 UTC]

It's nice that you made your intentions clear to others in your Author's Note.

👍: 1 ⏩: 1

Roysovitch In reply to kalel32688 [2020-04-22 04:10:43 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

👍: 1 ⏩: 0

Voltron64 [2020-04-21 19:34:00 +0000 UTC]

"I come from a religious background myself and I understand how fictional interpretations of these figures can cause some persons discomfort. If you feel you are such a person, please proceed with caution. it is not my intent to anger or provoke anyone. I am not seeking to belittle or mock your faith, nor am I endorsing any religion's veracity or validity by using these characters in my works."


Considering you being from(?) Utah, LDS?

👍: 1 ⏩: 1

Roysovitch In reply to Voltron64 [2020-04-21 19:48:26 +0000 UTC]

No offense, but I'm not going to get into a religious discussion here.

👍: 1 ⏩: 1

Voltron64 In reply to Roysovitch [2020-04-21 21:14:18 +0000 UTC]

Wasn't trying to. Just curious.

👍: 1 ⏩: 1

Roysovitch In reply to Voltron64 [2020-04-23 17:57:38 +0000 UTC]

I'm happy to share my religious background in a note or DM. I believe religion should be kept private to an individual except when invited by others to share their beliefs. I see uninvited declaration of religious properties and attempts to coerce others to your beliefs are a source for many of the world's conflicts.

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

SirPixis [2020-04-21 18:08:13 +0000 UTC]

The "Fatewriter?" Would that be you, Roy? Did this character bio just get meta?

👍: 1 ⏩: 1

TheSpectre27 In reply to SirPixis [2020-04-23 21:47:12 +0000 UTC]

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Z-Lord [2020-04-21 15:37:43 +0000 UTC]

Please Roy for all things good just make Chuck a Prophet. I hate him now knowing he's god in the show. Hell I'd take a cue from the Fantastic Four when they meet God aka The One Above All and he looks like a comic book artist but not just any comic book artist he looked like Jack "The King" Kirby.

👍: 1 ⏩: 2

MensajerodeDiscord In reply to Z-Lord [2020-04-21 18:42:38 +0000 UTC]

👍: 1 ⏩: 1

Z-Lord In reply to MensajerodeDiscord [2020-04-21 19:53:25 +0000 UTC]

OK thank god, I've watched the show since season 1 and Chuck now is the biggest dick ever I mean Castiel and Crowley have done dick moves alot but they are forgivable, he locks up his sister I mean Jack is right to be God if they kill Chuck.

👍: 1 ⏩: 0

CobaltKent In reply to Z-Lord [2020-04-21 17:14:12 +0000 UTC]

Roy did stated on Chuck's Network Files that he's pretty much different than the canon version

👍: 1 ⏩: 1

Z-Lord In reply to CobaltKent [2020-04-21 19:53:53 +0000 UTC]

I just saw Chuck on the Presence's file so I jumped the gun my bad.

👍: 1 ⏩: 0