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Description Propaganda poster by a Polish far right group showing the 'stolen lands' they claim Poland should've received in the World War I peace treaties.
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19111995 [2016-06-25 15:26:32 +0000 UTC]

Nice job! Though, Marshal Pilsudski might want even more than this map! He did successfully enter Kiev in 1920 after all. Also, no Intermarium? Well, I suppose this is a FAR RIGHT group after all; they don't care for multi-ethnic federations, as they only care about Poles, which would explain the lack of ambition.

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PurpleMetaKnight64 [2015-10-29 23:30:55 +0000 UTC]

Poland cannot into what thinks is rightful clay

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NomadicSky [2015-05-28 02:10:11 +0000 UTC]

An independent Galactia interesting

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WhippetWild [2015-04-23 19:57:00 +0000 UTC]

Yes,  "All that stolen land is MINE!!"

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Ktosydan [2012-07-11 15:12:49 +0000 UTC]

So much in White Ruthenia and so little in Ukraine?
I don't know whether to by disappoint or proud.

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TomBombardier [2011-06-19 14:15:37 +0000 UTC]

I think some also wanted Madagascar, Mozambique, and come part of Brazil as colonies.

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1Wyrmshadow1 [2010-03-27 04:17:32 +0000 UTC]

I did a report on this back in University. This was actually Pilsudki's plan during the 1919 War. Didn't really work out. The Poland of today is really odd because it's one of the MOST homogenous countries in Europe, when in the past it had always been a collection of many different poeples.

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rubberduck3y6 In reply to 1Wyrmshadow1 [2010-03-31 16:56:23 +0000 UTC]

I think Pilsudski actually supported the Intermarum (Międzymorze) idea of a Polish-led federation stretching from the Baltic to the Black Sea.

The reason I chose Poland was because of the various border wars they fought after WW1 to expand their territory.

We've got Stalin to thank for modern day Poland's homogeneity. At the end of WW2, Poland was shifted westwards and there were a lot of 'population transfers'.

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rubberduck3y6 In reply to rubberduck3y6 [2010-03-31 17:20:04 +0000 UTC]

The Poland shown on the map (the darker area) is a lot more homogeneous than interwar Poland actually was, as like you say there were large Belarussian and Ukrainian minorities and smaller Lithuanian and German minorities.

The claimed areas on the map which actually have a Polish majority are Upper Silesia, southern East Prussia and parts of the Vilnius region and western Galicia.

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1Wyrmshadow1 In reply to rubberduck3y6 [2010-03-31 19:34:29 +0000 UTC]

Yes I see that, the shape isn't quite OTL 1939.
btw.. I was born about in the middle of the S in Polska. So this isn't just an academic excercise for me.

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rubberduck3y6 In reply to 1Wyrmshadow1 [2010-04-01 08:20:52 +0000 UTC]

You might be Galician then on this map (Kraków's in eastern Galicia, near the Polish border).

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1Wyrmshadow1 In reply to rubberduck3y6 [2010-04-01 15:08:25 +0000 UTC]

I was born in Poniatowa, quite a ways from Krakow.

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rubberduck3y6 In reply to 1Wyrmshadow1 [2010-04-01 15:54:15 +0000 UTC]

Overlaying the map on Google Earth shows that you would still be Polish ITTL.

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rubberduck3y6 In reply to rubberduck3y6 [2010-04-01 15:55:38 +0000 UTC]

...and that the eastern border of Poland on this map is actually fairly similar to modern Poland's eastern border!

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rubberduck3y6 [2010-03-26 21:44:31 +0000 UTC]

Sorry I forgot to add: The claimed lands are divided up according to the country which administers them, showing how the rightful Polish lands have been shattered. Warmia, Masuria and Powiśla (southern East Prussia) and Upper Silesia are part of Germany, Gdańsk/Danzig is a LoN Free City, Galicia is independent, Cieszyn/Teschen, Orawa/Orava and northern Spisz/Spiš are part of Czechoslovakia, Podalia and Volhynia is Ukrainian, Grodno/Hrodna and Minsk is part of the White Russian region of Russia and finally Vilnius and Suwałki is Lithuanian.
The title hopefully says 'Reclaim the Stolen Lands' and actual Poland is labelled 'Free Poland'.

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lamnay [2010-03-26 21:06:31 +0000 UTC]

Nice map, what does it say?

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