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Iron Man (Marvel) VS Guyver (The Guyver)! Who do you think would win a death battle?Made by rumper1
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If guyver wins can the manga get a us release?
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Guyver wins.
1 Regeneration factor possibly quite greater then Wolverines when the armor is active
2 Energy weapons have no effect on the Guyver unless its the Guyver's mega smasher or a Elegen's electrified tentacle striking the control medal.
3 Destroy the brain or make the host go unconscious the Control Medal will go in self defense mode and remain in self defense until safe for host to take control again
4 Sound weapons dont work on the Guyver
5 Guyver has weapons that outclass anything the Military or Stark Enterprise has such as the High Frequency Swords, High Frequency Wave cannon which obliterates everything, Pressure Cannons, and the Mega-Smasher or as my friends have called the "tits of death"
6 Not even those who created the Guyver, the Advents/Creators know the Armors true potential especially when bonded to a Human host. The only one who has started to unlock its potential is Sho Fukamachi aka Guyver-1/Guyver Gigantic/Gigantic Exceed
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The Mega smasher would have no effect on Iron man since it can be blocked my an electromagnetic field witch iron man has plus other types of force fields and can cancel out Guyver's Sonic wespons plus Iron man's Omnibeam is stronger than Guyver's Mega smasher since it in the megawatts range while Tony's Omnibeam is in the Petawatts range witch is way higher plus he has the space gem.
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The only thing that has been able to cancel out a High Frequency sword is . . . . Β well NOTHING. If they were to touch Iron Man I am sorry to say Iron Man would be sliced into two. High Freq swords will adapt automatically to frequency and properties of whatever they touch and cut right through them. The ONLY thing they wont cut are other High Frequency swords. Also do not forget the Guyver has 2 more additional forms the Gigantic Form which all his abilities as a regular Guyver is multiplied 150-200 times and gods only know how many more times when in Exceed form.Β
Using only a fraction of all his power can Iron Man bring down a skyscraper using just one of his abilities? Gigantic Guyvers can. Can Iron man incinerate massive areas of a city with is omn-beam? The Guyvers and Gigantic Guyvers can. and dont forget the Guyvers have a barrier when transforming and when in Gigantic form
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Iron man Omnibeam can produce 1 billion petawatts scientifically speaking that is more than enough to tear apart the vacuum of space witch only need to be done with 200 petawatts so yeah this is like the Tits and Ass of death.
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A. Enough to teat apart the vacuum of space? The fuck does that even mean?
B. Using the omnibeam requires taking energy from another source, that would be an outside source, outside sources aren't allowed in Death battles.
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yes it is how do you explain Goku using the spirit bomb against superman, by collecting the Ki around him, just like Iron mans's omnibeamexcept with energy.
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I am talking about this Death Battle. On dA, outside sources aren't allowed. So Omnibeam is out.
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Rakaru, Guyver just doesnt get enough respect even though if in the right hands, a single Guyver could slaughter a majority of DC/Marvel/Image/Top Cow/ and other comic book characters.Β
But also stryka93 if you are a Guyver fan, dont forget, the Unit-Gs, were solely designed to be a space suit for the Advents/Creators whatever you choose to call them. When they introduced it to a Human the results startled them to the point they deemed Mankind a failure because they could not have imagined the power a standard issue item would have if another human or even a Zoalord would have.Β
So yes Iron Man may have all these built in gadgets, upgrades, and abilities in his suit, but the true potential of the Guyver has yet to be realized by the hosts. Even Sho Fukamachi (Guyver-1/Guyver-Gigantic/Gigantic-Exceed) has just started to unlock the armor's true potential. But, this is something I have noticed in the comics, the original series, and 2005 series, when the Guyver's control medal scans a target, it reacts accordingy
It says "Iron Man vs Guyver" and in the Guyver universe anything can apply from a regular Guyver like the Live Action Guyver, Guyver-1, Guyver-2, Guyver-3, Prehistoric Live Action Guyver, Guyver-Zero, Female Guyver/Guyver II F depending on which on you like, a Guyver-Zoanoid, Gigantic Guyver (Guyver-1), Gigantic Dark (Guyver-3), Gigantic Exceed, or even the hinted Guyver-Zoalord.Β
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Man this bleeding edge armor could essentially allow him do just about anything the can imagine plus it also augments his already genius level intellect to superhuman levels it can heal, replace broken our lost pieces the repulsor ray laren't just ocated on his palms but around his knuckles, chest, back legs and function as cameras giving him 360 degrees panoramic view around him. plus it far superior to his extremis armor.
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Guyver. especially if you start allowing suit variations and Guyver get's his Gigantic form.
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Yeah but Tony has gone up against being far stronger than guyver
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If variations would be allowed Guyver is F'd tony could get his bleeding edge armor witch should be allowed any since it was technically apart of him or Thorbuster armor witch is powerful enough to stop Mjolnir in mid-flight and can manipulate asgardian engergies giving him Odin Force.
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The Bleeding Edge wouldn't really be anything the Guyver hasn't come across before. In fact... a suit of armor that comes out when the wearer needs it most that, that can regenerate itself (in Iron man's case) to an extent and offers its wearer 360 degree field of vision... sounds exactly like a Guyver Unit, only less powerful. Thorbuster wouldn't be able to do any more harm to the Guyver than a "normal" suit, and since the Guyver doesn't use "energy" for any of his weapons (that is, all of his weapons are things that are scientifically possible) the Thorbuster's "invulnerability to energy attacks" doesn't really come into play.
I feel I should explain myself, when I say the Thorbuster wouldn't hurt Guyver, I am talking about Gigantic and Exceeded forms, both have shields that can stand up against virtual black holes and the latter is able to shoot off black holes.
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Guyver wouldn't hurt Thorbuster and tony has the destroyer witch is made out of the same material as Mjolnir
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Yes, he would. The Thorbuster isn't invulnerable to all forms of attack, just "energy", whatever that means. Since neither the Mega-Smasher nor a High freq. Sword are "energy" they both cut through Thorbuster like anything else.
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Actually Thorbuster is imperious to all kinds of attacks except those from Thor also since Iron man has the space gem currently the guyver wouldn't be able to touch him.
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I stand corrected. Thorbuster would make the fight end in a tie. How does the Space Gem mean Guyver can't touch him? The Space Gem only gives Iron man stronger defensise, it doesn't make him untouchable.
I have seen calcs that put the Mega-Smasher in the triple digit kiloton range, 280 kilotons to be exact. The Giga-Smasher is 100x the power of the Mega-Smasher, so that would put it at 28,000 kilotons (or 28 megatons) and Exceed gives him a boost in power "in proportion to its size"what does that mean? Well, I am going to be very literal with this and assume it means that the increase the Guyver receives to power is the exact same increase he gets in height, Exceeded is stated as being 25 meters tall, Guyver is 174 cm, Gigantic isΒ 260 cm or 2.6 m, so Exceed is 10x taller than Gigantic, so his Mega-Smasher would be 10x more powerful then the Giga-Smasher, so 280,000 kt (or 280 mt).
Now, a single petawatt converts to 1,000,000,000,000,000 joules/sec, 1,000,000,000,000,000 joules/sec converts to 0.239005736138 megatons, Guyver's original mega-smasher does more than that (its does .28 megatons).
Sorry, Iron Man just lacks the necessary fire power to hurt the Guyver.
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you forgot to multiply that by 1 billion and the space gem manipulates space on a cosmic scale with Iron man can use to teleport any where in the universe or increase the space between him and guyver's attacks infinite also allow him to appear every at once.
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A billion? Why? No where have I read that his unibeam is a billion petawatts, his omnibeam does but that requires him to draw in energy from around him, the Guyver doesn't run on energy and, at least in my mind, this battle takes place in a forested area. No where on his list of abilities is he given the ability to wrap reality, so I'm going to pretend you didn't say that.
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I was talking about the omnibeam
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Yeah, as I said: "his omnibeam does but that requires him to draw in energy from around him, the Guyver doesn't run on energy and, at least in my mind, this battle takes place in a forested area"
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Everything run on energy Guyver run on the hosts bio-energy.
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Alright, let's say he could steal electical energy from Sho. The human body, when operating on short bursts (like sprinting) produces at most 2,000 watts, we'll quadruple that for a fight, so Sho produces 8,000 watts every ten minutes. Let's assume the battle goes for an hour before Iron Man absorbs the Guyver's bio-energy so Sho produces 480,000 watts, that's not even 1 megawatt let alone a pentawatt.
Even assuming that Iron Man could absorb Sho's bio-energy, he isn't getting a billion pentawatts off it.
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The only weapon guyver has to do any damage to iron is his high frequency sword witch can easily be stopped by liquid, High explosions or equal vibrations weapon
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And the Mega-smasher, the Giga-Smasher, the Sonic Emitters, the head laser, the Gravity Controller/Pressure Cannon, The Gravity Fist, the Giga Maximum, the Gravity Ram, and the Gravity Implosion. All of those do sufficient damage such as to kill Iron Man.
The things that can stop the High Freq. Swords are:
1) Other vibrational swords of similar power
2) Corrosive liquid
3) Explosions
1 Iron Man doesn't have. 2 Iron Man doesn't carry around acid nor would there be any around. 3 have to be explosions directly on the Sword when its extended, an explosion just in front of, just behind, just to the left or right of the sword wont break it.
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The Mega Smasher and Giga Shamser fail because of Iron man's Force Fields can easily resist it. Sonic emitters would have zero effect head laser lacks power plus Iron man as gone up against gravitron who gravity powers fsr out class guyver and the high frequency sword would have no effect on Iron man's plasma shield witch at only 2% can resist a nuclear explosion ar point blank range and since the high frequency sword only weakens molecular bond witch plasma is already disconnected so it would be just like hitting it with a normal sword plus he is IronMan.
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Both the Mega- and Giga-Smasher hit as hard as a nuke. The Mega-Smasher has been calculated to be hitting with 280 kilotons, it is 11 times stronger than the Fat Man nuke. The Giga-smasher has a yield of 28 megatons, that is stronger then the strongest hydrogen bomb the US was able to make by a factor of 3 megatons. Exceeded's Giga-smasher hits with 280 megatons, that's more than half of all the world's used nuclear devices' yields summed up. Getting hit with any of these is a nuke to the facethat Iron Man's shields wouldn't hold up to long against (especially since the wiki gives no mention about how strong the nuclear explosion was, leading me to think it wasn't that big.) How would the Sonic Emitters have zero effect? Iron Man can still hear, right? That mean's sound can get through his shields without a problem. Since sound can get in without any trouble, that means the Sonic Emitters would pass through it, and that means Iron man would literally disintegrate into a cloud of disparate particles. Graviton's control over gravity is more controlled then Guyver's, but not more powerful, no. Graviton can't even create a black hole. Ok, so, High Frew. Swords cut through molecular bonds, if there is nothing to cut through that means they just slide through the shield, but nice try.Β
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Iron man shields a 2% can withstand a nuke being in the center witch is the most dangerous spot so with guyver's mega smasher and gigs smasher would have zero effect on guyver. Plus guyver strength is only 100 times the user speed wise guyver top speed on ground is only 250 mph and 300 in the air. Actually you're incorrect because the molecules are still there just in a state were it can be ripped apart and guyver's blade would just be like any other sword.
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Yes, for one explosions. Not two, or three, or five, or ten, or a hundred. His shields won't stand up to the onslaught of nukes. And then we still have the laser which I forgot about, it would go right through the shield. Correct on his strength incorrect on his speed. Guyver is just as fast, if not slightly slower then,Β Murakami when in Gigantic. Murakami flies at, no lower than, triple digit Mach speeds (This calc puts him at Mach 266 at the lowest and Mach 15992 at the highest), Gigantic augments the Guyver's base powers by a factor of twenty, low balling it and saying Gigantic flies at Mach 266 means base Guyver can fly at speeds of Mach 13, the fastest Iron Man can fly is Mach 10. Ok, when you try to cut water, does the blade go right through it? Even though there is something (i.e. the water) that hasn't been cut? Yeah, the same thing would happen with the High Freq. Swords, they would just slip past the free floating molecules, maybe his arm couldn't but since he can make the blades grow to any size that wouldn't be a problem.
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Actually guvyver's blade has a limited range and no it would just past through it and iron man and can you prove your talk.
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When it says limited range its referring to their location on his body. It says they are a meter-long, I don't think Iron Man keeps his shield three feet around him, one foot maybe but not three. Which part do you want me to prove and I will.
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Actually it does extend that long.
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In my opinion any ability a character has should come in play plus iron man can put his other armors on auto pilot which well be legal since its not an out side
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But how would anyone reasonably fit that into this fight without making it ridiculously one sided? That is definitely an outside source, but even if it wasn't Guyver would still have a distinct advantage in terms of... everything except numbers.
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Actually no Iron Man power is just as high plus being physically stronger and faster since the guyver's best strength feats are smashing concrete and man handling zoanoids and Iron is a far greater strategist and can literally think his away out of any dangerous situation.
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It really isn't. Iron Man isn't stronger or faster. Physically, he can punch and clear an entire hallway of Zoanoids made for defense purposes. With a punch! Speed wise, they both fly at unbelievable speeds and, in his Gigantic and Exceeded forms, he has reaction time 21% the speed of light. Iron Man couldn't move fast enough to do any harm to the guyver. The Guyver enhances its host's strategic powers as well and has the power to back it up.
Between the Guyver's impenetrable shield (Gigantic and Exceeded) and the ability to through virtual black holes, the regenation, the reaction time, and a sort of omnipotence directly around him, Iron Man couldn't touch the Guyver
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Iron mans is fast enough to escape a black hole, strong enough to draw blood from Sentry KO She Hulk and Luke Cage with a single hit, had tanked multiple nuclear bombs on him taking zero damage, easily lifted 16000 nuclear reactor flew it into thet sky and threw it into the ocean and can fly to the sun and back plus all this was done with his Extremis armor and earlier armors with his bleeding edge armor being far better and his current armor being even better.
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Lol Iron Man is fast enough to escape a black hole? You know that would make him faster than light, right? And since he isn't faster than light I'm going to call that bullshit. Guyver was able to fight against Archanfel who can destroy mountains without even thinking about and who was created to specifically destroy worlds, get's hite by things stronger than his Mega-Smasher and just gets back up. You forgot to mention that in doing the feat with the nuclear reactor that it could have ended in a complete systems failure, which means he can't do it a lot. The Guyver regularly fights Zoalords that tank the Mega-Smasher, guess what? He always wins. The same will happen here.
Iron Man isn't durable enough, nor is he fast enough, nor strong enough, to defeat Guyver.
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First of all it didn't end a systems failure because it was only at 2% out of 100% and second of all he did outrun a black hole you can google and find the scans.
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I didn't say it would end in a systems failure, I said it could end in a systems failure. About the black hole 1) it was a mini-black hole and 2) most everyone agrees it was PIS (Plot Induced Stupidity) and isn't what he can actually do on a normal basis. So no, he isn't faster than light.
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First of all If he did it in the comics in counts PIS or not. Plus guyver has one serious flaw that Iron man would have figured out in the first minute of the fight....its control metal witch iron man could easily exploit and destroy.
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Lol, no. Repeatability is the hallmark of ability, not PIS. Sure... he would just need to assume it was something important and hope the guyver didn't know it was his weakspot, Guyver is faster then Iron Man could ever hope to be and the only way he'd hit it is by Guyver not knowing Iron man would target it..
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Yeah iron mans had scanners that would have detect it and iron man has taken on people far faster than guyver
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I'm going to reply to both of your things in this one comment, just to make it faster.
Even if the shield can extend to three feet, that's not the longest they can extend to, and that's not even talking about Gigantic or Exceed, both of whom have even longer blades that can extended even longer.
Assuming the sensors would know that the control medal was his weak spot, how would iron man hit it? It takes a lot of force to damage the thing so the laser wouldn't do it and all the other attacks are well within the Guyver's reaction range to dodge/block.
what did you want me to prove?
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One iron man has a weapon the can disrupt telepathy witch the guyver uses to connect to its user I.e why telepathy doesn't work on guy giving iron man enough time do destroy the control metal plus if the control metal isn't immune to magnetism iron man can use his suit magnet to force it out witch I doubt. Prove speed.
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Except it doesn't. The Guyver is connected to the host's brain via the control medal, that's how Sho controls it. The only telepathic abilities the Guyver has is the ability to contact other Guyver units, since outside help isn't allowed its useless anyway. The control medal probably isn't magnetic, I'm sure if it was then Cronos would use it to their advantage.
Running speed or reaction speed?
For running speed, I already did. Gigantic can fly at the same speeds as Murikami, This thread calculated that Murikami reaches speeds of, at least, Mach 266. The Gigantic is twenty times superior to base Guyver. From there its simple math, divide Gigantic's speed by 20 to get base Guyver's speed, 266/20=13.something, I rounded down to 13.
For reaction speed, This thread calculated that Gigantic reacts atΒ 64,842,958.45 m/s. As I said before, Gigantic is twenty times superior to base Guyver. Math time, divide the Gigantic's reaction time by twenty to get base Guyver's, 189,046/20=3,242,147.9225, round up and base Guyver reacts at 3,242,148 m/s or Mach 9,527.
For Exceeded, I think I said that Exceeded is only 10 times superior to Gigantic (because Exceeded is ten times the height of Gigantic, and the only power scaling we have is the the wiki's ambiguous "All of the Gigantic's weapons and abilities are available in this form and their power is increased in proportion to its size." ), so he would fly at speeds of Mach 2660 at the lowest and react at speeds of 648,429,584 m/s.
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Gigantic mode won't come in play here since it draws on outside power.
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No it doesn't. Gigantic, and Exceeded, are both transformations of the Guyver. They are no more outside powers than the Guyver is for Sho, or the Iron Man armor is for Tony.
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Actually it dose to maintain that form
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