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.....................................yes. she is 'precious'....
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no longer surpressing giggling, now just shaking with barely contained laughter!
You have no idea how much I long to be able to put this on my desktop at work tomorrow!
(yikes, that's less than 5 hours from now!)
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HAH sally! sweet revenge! freak revenge! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAAA!!!!
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Sorry, but I heard that laugh in Robin William's voice! XD
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lol, did he said something like that?
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Not exactly, but he did one of his impressions, he said "See ya, Simba!" Then he did this maniacal laugh that would be spelled like that. Although, Robin could have done a Sherlock Holmes skit...that would have been entertaining!!
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indeed, altough....i haven't heard him before XD
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HAH HAHHAH! OMG, the expression on Donovan's face is SO brilliant. Great job!
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"So you're breaking up with me, then?"
Sorry, couldn't help it 
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I don't understand why this is so funny to so many people...?
Sally has every reason to hate Sherlock. Every reason. Yes, she could be nicer and more professional, but I completely understand her frustration and as a woman, I'm surprised more people DON'T as this Sherlock bullshit is something women have to deal with on a daily basis in RL.
Sally works her butt off every day only to have this pompous know-it-all--who just comes and goes whenever he pleases, bypassing all the hardship that everyone else had to go through to GET the job--sweep in on his high horse, calling her out and everyone else stupid, all the while not really caring about anyone but those HE likes; only solving the cases because he's bored? And then, to have her boss constantly kiss his ass?
That would piss the great majority of us off.
Personally, ever since watching the first episode it struck me as odd that Sherlock had access to the things he does without proper clearance. In the real world, even geniuses are expected to go through the right avenues because all of us who are not Sherlock level genius (NONE of us are Sherlock genius, by the way) would heartily resent it.
And it's not just that; it's due process and learning about the rule of law and why it's important; understanding that they are there for everyone's sake. And what did Sherlock say about laws? Oh yeah, he called them "... those law things."
And now, you have this picture that is completely demeaning Sally's character by reducing this CLEARLY hardworking woman to this pathetic woman scorned. But, I suppose that was your intention.
So tired of the Sally hate: At the most she deserves mild dislike, not this rabid fan hate that she's getting.
Now, I expect people to love Sherlock, he is the protagonist, after all, but be a critical thinker and realize that he's a major asshole as well: A major asshole who gets more free passes than he should.
Your art is nice, but I despise EVERYTHING that it implies. And whether you realize it or not, it implies so much. Both on a gender and racial level.
I know most people won't agree with me, but I really don't care. At the very least, I hope it makes SOME people think and maybe dial down on the hate.
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It's weird, but as a ACD Sherlockian who has never seen BBC Sherlock, whenever I read a defense of Sally Donovan, I see Lestrade, at least, the Lestrade from A Study in Scarlet, who doesn't like Holmes and proves that Holmes can misjudge people. She sounds like a cross between ACD Lestrade and Sam Vimes.
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Serious props to you for expressing a very well thought-out opinion that you know many people are bound to disagree with. I know this is going to sound corny, but you've really opened my eyes to a new perspective on the show and on Sally's character. You also helped me realize a problem within my fanfiction; thanks for indirectly improving my characterization.
I've read the arguments you and made, and I find that I agree with both of you on different points. But whether I agree or not, my main point is that I really respect you for being so open about a tough opinion and subjecting yourself to possible criticism/disagreement/what-have-you.
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Thank you soo much for your comments, they're greatly appreciated. The best part about speaking up and giving someone a different perspective about something is just that; causing that lightbulb to light up over their heads, even if they don't end up totally agreeing with it.
It makes the criticism and occasional nastiness worth it.
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No problem, my pleasure!
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It's funny, or rather, HAS been funny to so many people because this was drawn before Sally had any character development - she was portrayed just as much of a jerk as Sherlock, and that is exactly what this image implies - a childish feud not a sexist or racial insult. I'm not even sure if there is that much Sally hate around anymore; or hate for any characters in the show for that matter - even Moriarty is loved in this fandom. I apologize if others see it otherwise and take it to the extreme, but I can't just stop drawing or feel paranoid about anything I draw just because people will have such different opinions about it.
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Thank you for your response, and although I don't like the message, I do like your art.
And thank you for your maturity too.
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No offense, but I don't think that you should be taking out your frustrations about the characters of the show and how fans react to them on a single artist who's portraying them. First of all, it's not real life--if it were, there would be no story; not everything, including Sherlock's consulting position, is realistic, but then again, television rarely is. Secondly, I highly doubt that Sash-kash was trying to be demeaning with this drawing, but rather was just showing that Sherlock often does treat Donovan in a "bitch please" kind of way in the show. Is it right for him to treat her this way? No, and I'm sure that many people, especially women, empathize greatly with her. But the characters belong to Moffat and Gatiss, not anyone on Deviantart, so putting the blame onto someone here for their decisions isn't really fair, especially when it comes to accusations of sexism and racism.
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Oh! So glad to see a response. =]
I was quite looking forward to it although I'm surprised it's not from the creator. I really wanted to discuss it with her... him?
As far as your opinion that I'm taking out my frustrations in regards to the show on the Sherlock fandom at large, I beg to differ. My words were an opinion which I have every right to have and is no more offensive then some of the comments I saw in support of this art.
Furthermore, if an artist puts their work on display, it is with the understanding that they will encounter people who both like and dislike it and people who will interpret it in different ways.
A picture is worth a thousand words and the artist spent TIME sending this message. Expect it to be commented on.
Now, you're right, Sherlock is not life, but the hate that the actress, Vinette Robinson, receives in REAL LIFE from the Sherlock fandom for her portrayal of Sally IS. And that hate, my dear, is quite real. You should look it up, the evidence is all over the Internet.
It's revolting and appalling and WOW you should see it. Believe it or not, it starts with and is perpetuated by fanart like this.
Also, don't think, for one moment, that Ms. (... Mr.?) Sash-kash is the only one who hears my voice. No, everyone who displays controversial art, no matter who or what, will hear from me if I see it as such, just as those whose art I love will hear it. But once again, that's my right and it's theirs too, because they NEED to hear it.
How will they grow as artists, how will they learn to tolerate criticism if all they hear is "OMG! I loved it SOOO much! 
They won't. And hopefully, they'll learn to appreciate the differing voice. It's difficult and it takes time, but there is value in it.
As a writer, I know and understand how precious a creation is, so I'm not talking out of the side of my neck about this.
Lastly, I don't recall calling her sexist or racist and if I did, that wasn't my intention and I sincerely apologize. I thought I said that her art had sexist and racial implications, even if she (... he?) didn't realize it. But I'd hope that the artist would take it for what it is: Constructive criticism and a different point of view not stone throwing or a chance to hold up a proverbial banner.
It was simply an honest opinion that happened to deviate from the everyone else's and it really should be respected for that alone.
Anyway thank you for your response and how polite you were. Some people wouldn't have been able to pull that off. And sorry about the extra long message.
I hope this puts things in perspective for you.
WrittinInStone
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I was sincere when I said that I didn't mean to offend you in my earlier message; you absolutely do have the right to voice your opinion, even (especially) if it deviates from the majority. The only thing I was trying to say was that the picture (to me, anyway, and my interpretation), wasn't perpetuating anything negative about Donovan or Vinette Robinson, but rather was a simple statement that that's how she's often treated on the show. That in mind, most of the people Sherlock encounters are looked down on by him in the same way, Anderson for example, so it doesn't seem either sexist or racist (again, in my opinion, though I respect that yours may differ).
I just wanted to voice that in this case, the artist is only laying out what the creators of the show set up, and if fans interpret it negatively, the that artist should be held no more responsible than the show's writers.
All that being said, thank you as well for your civility. I'm not trying to raise an argument, merely explain my standpoint.
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I know you probably saw nothing wrong with it, but that's the great thing and sometimes bad thing about art. People interpret it differently. But whether our interpretations are different or not, I think we can both agree that Ms Sash-kash was not trying to flatter Sally at all.
You're right about Sherlock, though, he does look down on everyone. But unlike Sally, the people he looks down on tend to be non-important figures that we only see for a few minutes an episode. They're not constant sources of hate and dislike.
Oh and Anderson gets the same hate, by the way.
And I completely understand what you say about the writers setting it things up in certain ways, but both you and I know that fans are fickle and subject to unconscious prejudice and the way writers create a show and how fans take it can be completely different.
Sherlock, for instance, paints Sally as an annoying bitch, which fans except, but if you've ever watched BBC's Merlin, you'll see that Guinevere is not set up to be the bad guy, Morgana is (she is a VERY bad guy who kills indiscriminately and without regret), but people hate Gwen and love Morgana when Gwen is really the only completely functional character on the whole show. WTF is that?
I can list a whole host of such examples where this is true. So, writer's intentions is not an excuse for the behavior of fans, it is and will always be the fans' responsibility to think critically about any show and behave accordingly.
And to agree with you, an artist IS just as responsible for their creation as a writer.
Point blank.
Whether the intent is to support the writer's vision or to change it, he/she spent TIME creating it. She drew it, painted, colored, worked on it and then posted it online. She spent time making this picture in lieu of doing other things.
She is responsible.
And don't get me wrong, people think that Sherlock's creators are gods, but I personally have several problems with the way Moffat and Gatiss wrote Sherlock, but if I stopped watching a show every time I saw something I didn't like, I'd never watch television.
God... I could give you a LIST of things I don't like and since I'm not doing anything other than working on my site, I will:
1. I don't like that one of the most hated characters was deliberately written as an adulterous black woman. If that's not perpetuating stereotypes, I don't know what is.
2. I don't like the overflowing, overabundance of homosexual references. It got old by the second episode. I mean, I tolerate them as well as the next, but God! Moderation, especially since not everyone are slash shippers or slashers at all. (And this is not just for "the religious," I have an agnostic friend who prefers bromance. It's a choice, lol.) But after looking online, though, I understand why. Gatiss is homosexual, which is fine, but bleeds way too much into the show.
3. Irene Adler: One of the worst interpretations of her in history and nothing like her characterization in the book. Doyle wrote her as a smart woman who did what she needed to be safe, yes, (safe in its truest form, not to get money) but she was also a woman of integrity whose word was trusted both by the King of England and Sherlock. But Moffat and Gatiss made Adler a money grubbing, power hunger dominatrix: A woman who used her body to manipulate. That's crazy sexism.
What was even worse was that she still needed a man, Moriarty, to use what she had!
Not cool.
Once again, you can say that this is a TV show, that it's not serious, but when you study media and its effects on the world at large like I have, you begin to understand how powerful it is, how far reaching it can be. Benedict Cumberbatch himself remarked in an interview that it was a surprise and pleasure coming to America and seeing an "I Believe In Sherlock Holmes" poster on a random building in New York.
See? Powerful.
It's why there are so many rules as to how many people a particular company can broadcast to, how many stations they can own, etc. This stuff IS serious and very closely regulated. You can truly rule the world if you control the airways.
Anyway, this has descended into a much more serious conversation than I was intending, so I apologize for that.
As far as the show, if you could point out things I'm missing to help balance out my view of it, that would be wonderful, as I'm always open to being able to get out of my own way and enjoy Sherlock more, lol!
Civilized discussions are always good if both parties can keep a cool head, so... I have no problem with your opinions. They are actually well thought out and articulate, so, you should pat yourself on the back for that. =]
But yeah, this email is already long, I won't make it longer.
Thank you for your response and I hope to hear from you soon if you're still interested and care to respond.
WrittinInStone
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I'm not saying that the show doesn't have several sexist elements to it; I'm well aware that there are very few women in it, and not all of them are depicted in a positive way. Part of this might just be because there were so few women in Doyle's original works, or perhaps Moffat's viewpoint is skewed, as many people think. Either way, what I am saying is that I don't see sexism or racism in this particular drawing. Again, Sherlock treats most people in the same way he treats Donovan, which may not be okay, but at least is done without discrimination. Apologies if this doesn't make sense--I'm trying to put complex points into a few words. Hope it's articulate enough.
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I do understand that and I thank you for your reply.
This was a great conversation. =]
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Glad to talk with you. 
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You're very welcome and thank you so very much for your comments. =]
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I love the way you draw Sally. For most artists, it's like they aren't even trying
I still can't picture Sherlock calling her bitch though.
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I love the colors. And their expressions. Really, your work is stunning!
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"Precious"? I think we all know who the "precious" one in this picture is
Still, I love this. Actually, I love ALL of your drawings. And Benedict Cumberbatch (or as I affectionately call him "Cucumber Bandersnatch")'s facial expressions are priceless.
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Glad I'm not the only one thinking of 'cucumber' when reading his name
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When I saw this, I immediately envisioned Sherlock saying 'talk to the hand, girlfriend'. Then I read the 'bitch please' text message and laughed so much more.
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AAAAAUGH SO PERFECT
HOW DID YOU DO HER EXPRESSION IT IS SO FABULOUS!!! THIS PICTURE HAS ME SPEWING OUT WORD BARF LIKE AN INARTICULATE MORON THAT IS JUST HOW FABULOUS IT IS.
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I just can't-
All of your Sherlock pieces are awesome c:
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