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This is the transmutation circle used by Alphonse in Leor to fix the busted radio.(FMA Vol.1 - Chapter 1: The Two Alchemists)
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What I don't get about alchemy is the dual ring thing. I kind of get it but then when I see the shape piercing the first ring but also pierces the second- that's when I give up.
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Well a shape extending outside of a circle signifies the reaction may take place outside the circle, or that material for the reaction exists outside the circle. In this case, the dual circle and the fact that the triangles extend outside both of them, could indicate both of these things.
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I really don't get it. I can only barely understand the shape inside one circle and the shape outside one circle and inside the second... But now it's more confusing. How about this... Can you help make this simple?
Answer these in this order please. (and number it)
1a. When do I use one circle (the shape is inside the array) and some examples.
1b. When do I use one circle (the shape is outside the array) and some examples.
2a. When do I use two circles (the shape is outside the first circle but inside the second) and some examples.
2b. When do I use two circles (the shape is inside both circles) and some examples.
2c. When do I use two circles (the shape is outside both circles) and some examples.
I came up with combinations. So if any of them are not ever used then type "N/A". It would be appreciated if you did this for me.
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1a)One circle with all shapes inside the circle means all material must be inside the circle to be affected by the transmutation. Anything outside the circle will be unaffected. Example: [link] This circle needs to touch the area of effect, otherwise nothing happens.
1b) One circle, with one or more shapes extending outside the circle means that material must be in contact with the Array, or in contact with something around the Array. Example: [link] This circle gathers materials from its surroundings to produce its effect.
2a)Two circles, with the shape extending between the two circles is used when your area of effect is outside the circle, but you want to control the reaction accurately. Example: [link] This circle effects the area outside the circle, but needs you to direct events.
2b) The only time this style is used, is if you are placing instructional text between the two circles, and this technically counts as one circle. Example: [link] The effects take place inside the circle or in objects touching the circle just like 1a, but the between two circles is a line of instructional text.
2c) When you have two circles and one or more shapes extends outside the circle, the effect takes place where ever you desire, without direct contact. Example: [link] This circle control carbon dioxide, which of course can cover fast amounts of space, being a common gas in the air.
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How is inside and outside the circle truly defined? Like the healing circle you linked me for 1a). How is inside the circle defined? Lets say I drew that circle on a piece of paper and someone had an open wound with the bone sticking out of the arm, which is a very serious compound fracture. How do I heal that injury with the circle. Do I place the circle on the ground and lay his arm on the paper with the circle? Do I place the sheet of paper on top of the wound, basically covering it? If it's the first one, then isn't that just like 1b where it has to be in contact with the transmutation circle? This is the kind of problem I suffer with when it comes to what amount of circles and whither or not shapes fit in one or more circles. It's just jumbled and ill defined for me. It's just confusing.
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1a and 1b differ in that with 1a all materials must be inside the circle, and the reaction takes place inside the circle. 1b the materials may be outside the circle, but the reaction takes place inside the circle.
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Thanks so I'll just kind of compile a text file on Alchemy and explain when to use what kind of circle and it's shapes. But my question on what to do about the healing array isn't answered and I'd like to know.
Although I have another, even more complicated question. Even though the way shapes interacting with the circle is the discussion (when to have shapes contained or piercing certain circles)... But... what shapes and when do they go outside or inside a circle. A lot of transmutation circles have many shapes so how do you know whether or not to make a certain shape go outside the circles or contained. What you've been answering for me is the meaning of shapes doing certain things to circles. The focus being the circles. But what about the shapes?
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You've got way too many questions for me answer in one sitting, so I'm just gonna direct you to my Alchemy Blog:Β alchemy-playground.tumblr.com/ I'm posting tutorials and lessons as soon as I can finish typing them, if you keep up to date, your questions should be answered.
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Another quick thing. I don't quite understand the difference between
1. Two circles: Shapes outside the first but inside the second.
2. Two circles: Shapes outside both circles.
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I'm pretty sure I answered this one before, if it wasn't you who asked then I apologize, butt I'll answer that later.
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Quick question. If I were to make a transmutation circle with all the shapes inside the first circle, add a second circle, and place text in between the first and second circle, is it a double ring transmutation circle with text or is a single circle transmutation circle? If it's the second one, then do I have to add a third ring outside all two?
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If you have text between the two circles, it counts as one circle, unless its like my Golem V2 Array where the shapes is between the two circles as well. If you have text between the circles, and the shapes are only inside the first circle, the two circles essentially perform the function of one.
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Right. After I commented I realized that if all the shapes are inside both circles, then it's for instructional text. What if you have two circles and the shapes go outside the first or the second circle (with instructional text in between the two circles), does the two circles and the shapes still follow normal rules with the added benefit of having an instruction container?
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Yes, the rules are still the same.
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I don't know if you got my comment, but I asked if you wanted to chat on Skype. I'll try not to bug you if I ever wanted to chat or ask questions it would be a hell of a lot easier to talk on skype. I also have a new question. I've seen in many Transmutation Circles on Alchemy Junkies, a kind of font and language they use when encoding their secret messages on the arrays. I was wondering what kind of language and or font it is so that I could add some style to my transmutations.
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Well most of my works use the true type font for Lord of the Rings Dwarvish runes, which are almost exactly the same as the writing system used by the Anglo-Saxons of ancient Britain. You'd have to ask the Alchemist themselves what font they used, and some might not even remember. Sometimes, I just use a really cursive font, and warp the letters beyond recognition to hide the writing. You can also try overlapping and mirroring the letters.
As for Skype, I do not get on very often, and I prefer to keep it limited to close friends and family.
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That'd be cool. But if you had a Skype then we could chat whenever if you'd like. It would be a hell of a lot easier to talk to you with Skype.
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2b. So then there is no such thing as two circles with all the shapes inside? Having two circles with all the shapes inside always has text in between them which makes it one circle... So then 2b is really just 1a?
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Correct. If the shapes do not extend outside any of the two circles, the second circle is either just to make it look nice, or to provide a container for instructional text.
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Hey Azerik92. I'm just asking a quick question. It's rather unrelated to what I'm replying to. I was looking around for the info you told me from our previous conversations. The info about the fonts that is. I've seen SO many fonts, many similar and many are very different. I just want to know what you use was all. What fonts do you have? You told me something about Truetype fonts and something about dwarvish.
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dafont.com has a lot of fonts, The font your referring to for Dwarvish isΒ www.dafont.com/moon-runes.font It modeled after the writings seen on a map in The Hobbit, and on the door to the Mines of Moria in Fellowship of the Ring.
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Thanks. That helps out. And I already did go to Dafont. I have a tab somewhere on Dafont where I was searching for Runes.
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