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some possibilities to "rewild North America".Related content
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Rewilding might be dangerous today in America do to traffic and urban development but if we could have rewilding ranches that could work
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theres always a elephant and a lion except one had a tiger
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A few things.
1. Wisent could only really be placed in North America to replace the extinct species of bison that lived in North America.
2. African elephants would be a bad idea, considering how they have evolved to release head. The better candidate would be Asian elephants.
3. I disagree in introducing ostriches, rhinoceros and giraffes. Seeing that they don't really proxy anything. Though rhinoceros could act as a proxy for the extinct toxodonta and glyptodonts in South America.
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this is really good despite a few flaws like the southern ostrich replacing terror birds other than that totally agree
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Well, very nice! I mainly agree with the option, which is labeled with "similar to Africa". In fact, I think it is also that option, which is very similar to the ancient North America, since it has not Forms, which were not present in Noerth American Pleistocene, like rhinos, giraffes and aardvaarks
I rather disagree with the last image (similar to North America):
1.) It is not clear if the yak occurred in North America (an if than only in Beringia). Therefore the Wisent is not necessary to replace it and anyway not a good proxy.
2.) The Indian Elephant cant replace the American Mastodon, because it can´t cope with temperate to boreal climates. It might be a proxy for Cuverionius, which seemed to have lived in the south but is missing in the ancient North American biodiversity.
3.) The Leopard is not a proxy for Homotherium. You would not introduce a leopard, since it could compete with the native puma and even be a threat to it.
4.) The anteater did not occure in North America.
5.) The ostirch is not a good proxy for Phorusracus. A similar Form, Titanis is known from North America, but not from the Late Pleistocene to my knowledge.
6.) The lion is not a good proxy for Smilodon
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True to most and I shall add on to your argument,
1) I disagree with giraffes replacing ground sloths, considering that despite a similar life style it just seems rather awkward. Besides, giraffes can't survive in northern conditions, unlike he ground sloths.
2) Rhinos for the Glyptodonts is also very awkward. Sure both live in southern climates but they seem out of place. Sure rhinos lived in North America before the Pleistocene, but they died out when the ice age came around so... sorry man. Also it would be best not to risk the safety of the Sumatran rhino as a species. Same thing goes with the Aardvark.
3) Lions, on the other hand, can be a proxy for the American Lion but not for Smilodon. None of the sabertooth cats can be replaced.
4) I can see Asian elephants replacing mastodons but only in the southern ranges of their range. Also if I'm not mistaken, Cuvieronius were found in North American sites.
5) The introduction of other species of antelope and gazelle to the continent would more than likely threaten the pronghorn as the different species would probably compete with each other.
That's all I have to say, you can agree and disagree with me, I'm perfectly fine with that.
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Excellent....I wonder why there is only color in the middle of the picture and in the remaining sides no color... ??
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How does Struthio replace Titanis? And is it even important to replace Titanis?
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you're right, strutio can't replace titanis, just I put it there because the size similarities. if Titanis had survived until the end of the Pleistocene, it would be impossible to replace today ...
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Such an excellent illustration. Beautiful layout of charismatic megafauna, and great expose' for North American rewilding. Bravo!
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*nods.* i like this, i like this alot. how'd you come up with this?
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Can you confirm my identification of for the above:
India: (L to R): chiru(Pantholops hodgsonii); takin(Budorcas taxicolor); nilgai(Boselaphus tragocamelus); caracal(Caracal caracal); markhor(Capra falconeri); Indian peafowl(Pavo cristatus); Himalayan brown bear(Ursus arctos isabellinus); sambar deer(Cervus unicolor); bharal(Pseudois nayaur); Eld’s deer(Cervus eldii); honey badger(Mellivora capensis); yak(Bos grunniens); Bengal tiger(Panthera tigris tigris); Indian rhinoceros(Rhinoceros unicornis); Indian wolf(Canis indica); Asiatic lion(Panthera leo persica); sun bear(Helarctos malayanus); golden jackal (Canis aureus); barasingha(Cervus duvaucelii); Indian elephant (Elephas maximus indicus); dhole(Cuon alpinus); water buffalo(Bubalus arnee); Clouded leopard(Neofelis nebulosa); chital(Axis axis); Asiatic black bear(Ursus thibetanus); Indian vulture(Gyps indicus); ghorkhal (Equus hemionus); Indian pangolin(Manis crassicaudata); gaur(Bos gaurus); chinkara(Gazella bennettii); lammergeier(Gypaetus barbatus); blackbuck(Antilope cervicapra); Bactrian camel(Camelus bactrianus); Asiatic cheetah(Acinonyx jubatus venaticus); sloth bear(Melursus ursinus); sarus crane(Grus antigone); Indian leopard(Panthera pardus fusca);??; striped hyena(Hyaena hyaena); Indian wild boar(Sus scrofa cristatus); Malayan tapir(Tapirus indicus); snow leopard(Panther unica)
Africa: (L to R): tsessebe(Damaliscus lunatus); blue wildebeest(Connochaetes taurinus); chimpanzee(Pan troglodyte); giant eland(Taurotragus derbianus); greater kudu(Tragelaphus strepsiceros); gemsbok(Oryx gazella); waterbuck(Kobus ellipsiprymnus); African wild dog(Lycaon pictus); giant forest hog(Hylochoerus meinertzhageni); gerenuk(Litocranius walleri); African fish eagle(Haliaeetus vocifer); sable antelope(Hippotragus niger); leopard(Panthera pardus); white rhinoceros(Ceratotherium simum); spotted hyena(Crocuta crocuta) lion(Panthera leo); eastern gorilla(Gorilla beringei); side-striped jackal (Canis adustus); Nile hippopotamus(Hippopotamus amphibius); common warthog(Phacochoerus africanus); Grant's gazelle(Nanger granti); plains zebra(Equus quagga); African bush elephant(Loxodonta africana); caracal(Caracal caracal); nyala(Tragelaphus angasii); bonobo(Pan paniscus); aardvark(Orycteropus afer); Grevy’s zebra(Equus grevyi); African buffalo(Syncerus caffer); springbok(Antidorcas marsupialis); impala(Aepyceros melampus); common hartebeest(Alcelaphus buselaphus); giraffe(Giraffa camelopardalis) okapi(Okapia johnstoni); cheetah(Acinonyx jubatus); serval(Leptailurus serval); African ostrich(Struthio camelus); striped hyena (Hyaena hyaena); black rhinoceros(Diceros bicornis)
Ancient North America: (L to R): American saiga(Saiga borealis); muskox(Ovibos moschatus); caribou(Rangifer tarandus); mountain goat(Oreamnos americanus); Alaskan moose(Alces alces gigas); grizzly bear(Ursus arctos horribilis); stag-moose(Cervalces scotti); bighorn sheep(Ovis canadensis); woodland muskox(Bootherium bombifrons); gray wolf(Canis lupus); bald eagle(Haliaeetus leucocephalus); wolverine(Gulo gulo); shrub-ox(Euceratherium collinum); elk(Cervus canadensis); scimitar cat(Homotherium serum); American beaver(Castor canadensis); American mastodon(Mammut americanum); dire wolf(Canis dirus); American lion(Panthera atrox); Jefferson's ground sloth(Megalonyx jeffersonii); giant beaver(Castoroides ohioensis); coyote(Canis Latran); short-faced bear(Arctodus simus); giant capybara(Neochoerus pinckneyi); gray fox(Urocyon cinereoargenteus); imperial mammoth(Mammuthus imperator); western horse(Equus occidentalis); ancient bison(Bison antiquus); cougar(Puma concolor); white-tailed deer(Odocoileus virginianus); long-nosed peccary(Mylohyus nasutus); American black bear(Ursus americanus); California condor(Gymnogyps californianus); American zebra(Equus simplicidens); longhorn bison(Bison latifrons); giant anteater(Myrmecophaga tridactyla); four-horned pronghorn(Capromeryx arizonensis); Merriam's teratorn(Teratornis merriami); collared peccary(pecari tajacu); American gomphothere(Gomphotherium nebrascensis); American giant tortoise(Geochelone turgida); pronghorn antelope(Antilocapra americana); nine-banded armadillo(Dasypus novemcinctus); nine-banded armadillo(Dasypus novemcinctus); camelops (Camelops hesternus); North American saber-toothed cat(Smilodon fatalis); American cheetah(Miraciononix trumani); big-headed llama(Hemiauchenia macrocephala); giant ground sloth(Megatherium americanum); jaguar(Felis onca); beautiful armadillo(Dasypus bellus); golden eagle(Aquila chrysaetos); terror bird(Titanis walleri); dhole(Cuon alpinus); Florida cave bear(Tremarctis floridanus); flat-headed peccary(Platygonus compressus); stout-legged llama (Palaeolama mirifica); California tapir(Tapirus californicus); capybara(Hydrochoerus hydrochaeris); giant glyptodont(Doedicurus clavicaudatus)
Thanks!
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Your photo-mosaics of megafauna are truly astonishing! They are the best I've seen and belong in the pages of National Geographic.
I particularly like the ones like above that have been made to look like fine illustrations, rather than photographs.
Would you be able to discuss the steps one would take to put something like the above together? How do you refine the photographs so they look like drawings rather than cut-out photographs?
Also, I assume that each background square is 2meters x 2meters. Is that correct?
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I was wondering where you get all the cool animal shots for your charts.
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many I encounter in smugmug.com and flickr.com some I took myself in zacango zoological from toluca Mexico.
saludos
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