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Say hello to our good friend Kaldur'ahm, from Young Justice depected in Flashpoint Paradox. It looks like the animated films that Warner Brothers and DC Comics are making show more respect to the beloved Young Justice cartoon than the comics are (Given how they treated many of the characters that appear in that same series).And this is also a good time to mention something with my own JLA series: I'm making these characters official in my JLA series as the side kick of some of the heroes, and the official sucessors of the Original Five members of the Teen Titans (Outside of Tim Drake that is):
Damian Wayne as Robin (Succedding Tim Drake)
Cassie Sandmark as Wonder Girl (With Donna Troy being Troia)
Mia Dearden as Speedy (Roy being Red Arrow)
Kaldur'Ahm as Aqualad (Garth being Tempest and Aquagirl being someone else)
and Jessie Quick as Kid Flash (with Bart Allen being Beyond-era Kid Flash)
But in all, I am liking how Kaldur is getting some respect...makes me wish Artemis gets the same amount of respect...
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And then gets resurrectd off screen ;;
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oh really, they brought her back? The culling kind of put me off the book in its entirety.
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Too bad the Young Justice animated series never showed much respect to the Young Justice comics, though.
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Hey did start by fighting a chick with big breasts that shoot out lights
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Still better writing than 90% of the show!
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(Raises eyebrow) Hat's wrong with the show? It was a tad darker than the original show sure, but it still gave a good story for it. IT's just unfinished. ;;
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Decided to dig some through my old, old journals to just copy and paste my complaints against YJ. Bear in mind, I wrote these several years ago when in an internet rage, haha. This was also before Season Two. Anyhow, it probably sounds like the rantings of a moron with no life. Guilty as charged.
So, to answer your question: The inconsistencies and gradually worsening dialogue/writing as the show progresses, just for starters. I remember from 'Welcome To Happy Harbor', the boys strictly told Miss Martian not to read minds or communicate telepathically (except for villains, and only when absolutely necessary on important missions) because it was extremely uncomfortable and invasive. Funny how, later on, the entire team all just start casually chatting it up with each other via M'gann's convenient telepathic link -- joking about Wally ordering Captain Marvel around, gossiping good-naturedly about each other, engaging in girl talk about boys, etc.
There's also the fact that any well-versed DC Comics fan, or Young Justice comics fan, knows that the show's team consists of all but one member who had absolutely nothing to do with the comic roster. Dick Grayson, Wally West, Miss Martian, the new Aqualad, and Artemis Crock were never on Young Justice. By the time Young Justice was formed in comic history, Dick was Nightwing, Wally was The Flash, Miss Martian and Kaldur (or Jackson, as his name is in the comics) didn't even exist yet, and Artemis...hell if I know.
Superboy is the only canon member who was still included in the team roster; but of course they had to butcher his character and turn him from a fun-loving, girl-chasing, lighthearted, friendly guy...into an angry, brooding, pushy, self-centred, violent clone with daddy issues. Granted, Kon in the comics had his dark moments, like every single other hero. But he didn't bring his problems to work all the time, so to speak. At least not until the team 'graduated' up to Teen Titans.
The choices for the show's romantic relationships are also just ridiculous. Wally/Artemis? I swear they thought of that when they dropped somebody on their head. 'Hey, let's put Wally together with the estranged, obscure lovechild of Sportsmaster and Tigress from the comics! They have no history in the comics whatsoever, so it makes total sense!' Superboy/Miss Martian: 'They've barely spoken in the comics before, and they have romantic hints/history with other people, so let's put them together! Of course!' And Robin/Zatanna. Boy oh boy, don't even get me started on the fact that Zatanna is supposed to be in Batman's age group, and was even a romantic interest of his once I think, or so I've heard. Why didn't they just go the extra step in making it awkward and nonsensical as all for Dick's love interest?
Batman: I have a new member for your team. This is Selina Kyle.
Selina: Hi! I'm underage!
Dick: Let's be soulmates!
There are other reasons I didn't like the show. The fact that Roy was a clone the whole time, and the real Roy was stuck somewhere in a tube with his arm lopped off. (Totally not a Cry For Justice reference there. Sure. Whatever.) Also the fact that, during Season One, the team all apparently came down with a bad case of PTSD from a dream sequence gone awry, and they all needed mental therapy to get over that shenanigan. Season Two, Roy tries to blow himself out of the escape hatch (or some such, been years since I watched anything DC) rather than be captured and submitted to that real life trauma again, to which Nightwing tells him to man up or get lost.
And then some reasons are purely subjective, like that I hated Artemis's character (seriously, could have done without her, thanks very much). And I hated Roy/Jade. And Lian. Never liked Cheshire or Lian to begin with. But again, that's purely subjective.
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With the thing with Arsenal, he didn't reach out for help and purposely put lives in danger. The others are your opinion and I can respect that. Just be willing to understand people do like it , k? π
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After being kept in a forced coma for years and waking up with no arm, to find that nobody really missed him or cared to even look for him -- except for his clone (ouch) -- he shouldn't have to reach out for help. That help should have been extended to him. Especially after he proved he was unstable enough to kill himself and others. The fact that he would rather have died and taken everyone else down with him is cause for concern, not an ultimatum.
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Uh...they all thought the Light had killed him and they thought Roy (the one they had known for years) had been losing himself.
Original Roy didn't stop and think that he should get help. Instead he went for revenge and a more selfish mindset to justify his actions. He insulted Ollie-who was feeling remorse for losing ONE of his protΓ©gΓ©s already and felt genuine sadness for failing him-and snubbed any help Ollie or Roy gave.
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"Original Roy didn't stop and think that he should get help."
And why did no one offer him any help AFTER he woke up? Why was he allowed to serve on those teams despite clearly not getting any kind of psychiatric care or therapy? Weren't the kids abducted by the Reach speaking to Black Canary? Wasn't she the designated counselor?
Who believed this boy should be allowed to work on espionage and information gathering missions when he tried to kill someone days after awakening for the first time in years? Why did they just let him keep that arm from Lex Luthor? He may have been lashing out but he was also a 13 year old boy mutilated, kidnapped, and pretty much abandoned by the people he thought was closest to him. And even after he wakes up he doesn't really get any kind of help. He may have to answer for his actions but so do the people who blindly just let him work on these teams despite clearly being unable to handle it, and for not making sure he was getting the counseling nearly everybody else was getting.
Snubbed any help Ollie or Roy gave him? What help did he get?
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For one? A trip to the hospital to see what they did to him. And Ollie wanted to reconnect.
And I agree, but hre's the thing with this situatno;it was a kinda no-win anyay. Thre were bug people kidnapping innocent teens left and right (likely killing several), one of their own had to do a VERY convincing 'I am now evil' schitct that he likely had nightmares about each night.
Was he a boy who was mutilated? Yes. But here's the thing; did he ever reach out for help? Did he ever make an effort to blame other people OUTSIDE of ust hte villains? The heroes were duped from the beginning, so they likely were just as shocked as anyone else when they found out he was actually alive. Remember, they had all thouht the Light had DESTORYED him. You know, gotten rid of him after Red Arrow and Guardian were outed as clones. It took Chesire using EVERY SINGLE one of her connections that hse would only have as an assassin to even find him. THe heroes went every legit route and it took a master killer to find the route thatw asn't as clean.
Plus here's the other thing in this situation: The League were understaffed (With 9 of their heavy hitters being off world), the earth was being manipulated by the light indirectly throuhg G. Gordan Godfrey and DArkseid, and the first mission he was apart of? Oh yeah, a simple mission that was just meant to be a 'get in and out' one. There wasn't meant to be anything big! It was meant to be a simple mission before Aresenal decided to let his grudge get the better of him. Do I understand? Kind of...but he thinks only for himself, no one else. That's not a heroic mindset at all. Honestly, I think NIghtwing realized that it was too soon when he fuond out what Arsenal did and let him off. And he woul dhave ilkely had him go to Black Canary if the Runaways didn't shang-high it out of there with Roy.
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One trip to the hospital. And after that they virtually disappear, not being mentioned at all even after Roy gets kicked off the team save for a single crowd shot in the last episode.
I am so sick of this "he didn't reach out for help" mentality. That was the same thing with Rise of Arsenal, the characters saying Roy wasn't reaching out to them. But he still needed their help and they saw he needed their help, but they chose to abandon him. Dick dumps him in a prison for supervillains with substance abuse problems and Black Canary decides he's a lost cause. They finally had the opportunity to help Roy but decided not to. Just because someone doesn't reach out to but you know they need your help and you have the ability to help them does not absolve a person of blame.
And he still shouldn't have been on that mission in the first place no matter how small it was! He shouldn't have been working with these people period. How could Dick believe Roy would be able to work alongside anyone else after what happened to him? Why should it have been only after he screwed up that he figured Roy shouldn't be on that team? It's not fair to just say he only thinks for himself when the others still aren't really thinking about him at all.
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Let's agree it was poor choices on the writers' part
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No, Dick and Wally themselves had said that they essentially just didn't care. They told clone Roy that they had never known the real Roy, so it wasn't a priority for them.
Ollie felt remorse only after the consequences of his negligence were (literally) staring him in the face. He even said himself that he chose not to look for Roy because he wanted to believe that he was okay. You can hardly blame Roy for refusing the aid of his former mentor; Green Arrow had just confessed that he'd ignored his better senses/judgment, and dismissed that something was off about his sidekick, because he was too afraid to face his own failure. Nor can you blame him for rejecting his clone's efforts either, the being who had been living in his place for years and stealing his life.
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Yeah, I loved the movie and I really enjoyed seeing them in action. To be honest, I was rooting for Deathstroke and Lex Luthor over the Atlanteans, though.
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Sorry if I sound like I'm really depressed or something. 
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I don't think it's respect. I think it's more like he's the new Aqualad. They sent the other one on his merry way. It is good to see him like that though.
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Actually, Garth is still around. He's just a different hero.
Heck, in my JLA story, Kaldur is the current Aqualad while Garth, aka Tempest, was the original one before he rejoined the titans under the tempest title.
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Oh. I didn't know that. More you know and all that. Thanks! I'll have to do my research and reading.
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Of course, around the time Kaldur was in the comics, i think Garth was either dead or not used as much. I'm not sure.
Though in this movie, both Kaldur and Garth were in the film...along with Tula, aka Aquagirl
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Probably my favorite part of the movie. Aqualad, Deathstroke (in his best costume ever), Black Manta, and Lex Luthor all being so badass!
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He doesn't get any speaking roles, but hey actions speak louder than words. He held his own against friggin' DEATHSTROKE in that movie.
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Eyep. I actually like his costume here, fits a former child soldier.
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Yeah, I agree it fits Aqualad as an Atlantean overall
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I haven't seen the film yet, but I heard he was in it.
Too bad he wasn't in the comics very long before new 52, but hey maybe he'll show up again. Manta's getting some prominance and I think he was still his son there. Plus at least Garth and Tula are back again, albeit only minor cameo's for now. Heck even Mary Marvel got her powers back (or for the first time. Crazy temporal reboot stuff).
Still I'm not quite sure what to make of New 52 yet.....but I guess it's sticking around for the near future.
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Seriously DC has been doing so bad with their Young Justice books, every single one of them has been canceled, even Teen Titans is now being canceled. But maybe it's for the better, Scott Lobdell will finally be away from the books and to be honest he's really not a good writer (the sales and reviews prove that). Hopefully they will reboot it to be more like Young Justice.
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This is why I think Geoff Johns should get a talented writer involved with the Young Justice guys...
Seriously, I WANT TO SEE KALDUR IN THE COMICS AGAIN! Seriously, he's already doing an Aquaman comic series so I think Kaldur could be a big help for him right now.
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Eyep. I remember that
They will also appear in the Solo-arc of Aquaman in my JLA fanfic. Same with Kaldur here.
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Cool! I'll have to check it out sometime!
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I Love it!!
And I love Kaldur, Hey!! If the new Young Justice Legacy video sells well!! (And people start buying the tie-in comics and episodes on Amazon on Itunes,) They'd do a sequel ANNND maybe bring back the show because of the game sequel!!
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I got the entire first season from a video store a couple days ago, and I'm waiting until Christmas to get the game. But I'm sure there's a LOT of Young Justice fans getting it.
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Hopefully, then it'll bring them back.
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Mostly, cause I want to see Kaldur get a romancable. Cause he's AWESOEM AND SWEET AND DESERVES LOVE!!
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Agreed.
Though is it wrong if I had a crack pairing between Kaldur/Katana
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Mostly because both are deciplined warriors and both have had hardships throughout their lives.
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