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edmontonsurfclub [2012-08-27 08:13:15 +0000 UTC]
I LOVE tutorials! Cool stuff!
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AeryValley [2010-10-21 03:38:00 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much! How smooth is is when it dries? And what paint would you use on it?
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shalonpalmer In reply to AeryValley [2010-11-06 19:00:43 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. It's as smooth as you can make it when it's wet. If you're using the flour mixture with paper - you're going to get the layer from the paper - but the flour mixture is the consistency of glue if you mix it completely (flour does clump). Using watered down white glue - same situation. You can always sand the surface to make it smoother - or you can layer gesso or a thicker paint type product on it to create a smoother finish on top.
In my case I was using these for a theater production - the audience is farther away - so less need for specific detail work. The paint that I used was acrylics for ease, but you could probably use just about anything.
If you have other questions - just ask.
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0littlegirldeath0 [2010-09-16 02:09:01 +0000 UTC]
do you use clay to skulpt it ? iyou do can you tell me what clay dose not hardn
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FreakMyLife [2010-07-22 00:34:11 +0000 UTC]
Did you do the same thing with the wolf masks? Did you just add more paper mache to make the muzzle or is this process just for human masks?
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shalonpalmer In reply to FreakMyLife [2010-07-22 14:11:33 +0000 UTC]
Same process to make the wolf mask. Honestly you could build out and make anything you'd like! I suppose you'd just be limited by weight or fagility. I think the side mane fringe on the wolf was a heavier paper or cardboard if I remember correctly...
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MonoCLaud [2009-08-24 14:41:49 +0000 UTC]
can i do this to myself???? im just curious..
coz i dont have a friend around soooo , i plan on doing it to myself.... while looking at the mirror
your works are awesome!!
fave!
^_^
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shalonpalmer In reply to frisca-freak [2009-03-23 14:23:43 +0000 UTC]
Well - as for drying times - the glue mixture version (obviously not applied directly to the skin) is the average drying time for the glue. The mixure is just elemers white glue with a tad bit of water so it covers easier. It takes a tad bit longer than glue due to the water ratio - but it drys about the same really.
The flour mixture version - I'd say it's about 10-20 minutes based on the water to flour ratio. It's all based on the evaporation time. Once you get on to additional layers it may take a little long as the water will soak back into the pervious layers. The heat of the person's face also helps along the process - so the further out the less heat you'll be getting. The last time I did this I mixed in too much water - so be careful. I thought it was never going to set up!!
I definitely recommend doing a face casting if you're going to be making more than one mask. It's a lot of fun to do. All you need is a volunteer and some plaster gauze strips, water and some vaseline. Make sure you coat the face fully - especially any hair like the eye lids and the hairline. Make sure you leave holes for breathing at the nose, but cover all else. Once you're done with the layers, remove the mask and put a strip over the ourside nose holes. After that, vaseline the inside again and pour some plaster in. Once it's set and you remove the gauze strips - you'll have a casting of the person's face. It makes it a lot easier to do mask work over top - and you can do the fabric and glue mache all the better (remember a layer of vaseline or such again so it doesn't get stuck to the surface). Plus you can leave it on there as long as you need - which is not the case for someone's face!!!
Check out [link] and [link]
If there's anything else you need, any questions, just let me know!!
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shalonpalmer In reply to frisca-freak [2009-03-23 17:59:22 +0000 UTC]
No problem. If you run into any problems - don't be afraid to ask. I'll defintely help out if I can!!
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Taiyo-ai [2008-12-01 00:22:05 +0000 UTC]
cool, thank you
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Snoofalah [2006-08-29 03:21:16 +0000 UTC]
You're quite knowledgable about masks. Is there a way to work with plaster cast and make it easy?
-Snoof
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shalonpalmer In reply to Snoofalah [2006-08-29 15:25:15 +0000 UTC]
currently for a project i'm working on i'm doing the plaster bandage method and then making a plaster cast of my face to build the mask over and cast. so it's actually the first time i'll be making a plaster cast of my face - and it's going to be fun!!! and i'll probably be taking pics throughout the process - we'll see how it goes. but for the character mask i need, i think it's going to be a whole lot simplier and easier!!
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Snoofalah In reply to shalonpalmer [2006-08-29 16:59:28 +0000 UTC]
That'll be awesome.
What I have is like a plaster glue. I have a demo mask to work on, but its a female mask. Is there a safe way to get this plaster concrete to contour with my face?
-Snoof
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shalonpalmer In reply to Snoofalah [2006-08-29 18:11:39 +0000 UTC]
is the product name 'plaster cast'? hmmm... well, i don't know of it - but, definitely read through any labels you have on it, instructions of any kind.... make sure it's good for skin and such...
otherwise, i'd definitely mix up a test of it and try it on your arm or such to see how it'll react with your skin. plus it'll give you a change to see how long it takes to set up into a solid, if the heat reaction is going to be too hot for your face, and so on. Definitely have a friend work with you when you do the casting of your face – just in case something goes wrong. Always play it on the safe side – especially with your skin, and especially with your face!!!
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Snoofalah In reply to shalonpalmer [2006-08-29 21:07:47 +0000 UTC]
Oh yeah, I know how it reacts. Its like a thick glue, and it sticks. I just need some pointers on if I can shape it into my face instead of a feminine cast. I've never made a mask before, so I'm a little skeptical of the mold.
-Snoof
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shalonpalmer In reply to Snoofalah [2006-08-30 14:52:04 +0000 UTC]
hmmm... in the case that it's like glue, i wouldn't take the chance putting on your face, especially near your eyes and your nose, pretty delicate skin area and all. I definitely recommend the plaster bandages and a layer of vaseline. sorry i can't be of more help.
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Snoofalah In reply to shalonpalmer [2006-08-30 23:36:53 +0000 UTC]
Bah, you're great help. I haven't seen such cool sculptures since going to the Art Institute in Minneapolis. I'm taking the advice of not applying it to my face, which is a safe bet. Since the mask is a female mould, should I remove the chin so that it could fit simply?
-Snoof
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shalonpalmer In reply to Snoofalah [2006-08-31 02:30:45 +0000 UTC]
thanks. so, what are you going for in the design? i really like masks that don't have a chin piece or are just surrounding the eyes, but it tends to be determined more by the character or creature that you're going for... but for fit, i'd agree that that would probably work out in case it's a bit smaller than your face... and if there's anyway to press out and make wider the temple area - otherwise it may be a bit snug. also it matters what the end piece is going to be made of, if it's going to be plaster or cast into something else... like if you're ending up with latex neoprene or such, the size won't matter as much as it'll flex and contour to your face...
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Snoofalah In reply to shalonpalmer [2006-08-31 03:22:27 +0000 UTC]
I'm hoping something along those lines. I'm making multiple masks for halloween, and I highly plan on giving it some frow-lines above the eyes to make it look evil, and instead of strings I'll use double-sided tape on some foam rubber. That way I can transfer multiple masks at a time.
-Snoof
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shalonpalmer In reply to Snoofalah [2006-08-31 20:54:20 +0000 UTC]
as odd as it seems - i've never made my own kick ass scary halloween mask. one of these days... one of these days... then again, i'd then need to find something to do on halloween... i have to admit, i haven't actually done anything on halloween in the last few years except work.
oh, and if it's at all helpful for you, i just uploaded a set of pics for the face casting - [link]
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Snoofalah In reply to shalonpalmer [2006-08-31 21:17:59 +0000 UTC]
Ah, very sweet.
You should try scaring kids with my friends and I. You'd love it. I mean, we don't frighten them to death. I mean that we give them a good jolt just for fun.
-Snoof
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Snoofalah In reply to shalonpalmer [2006-09-01 03:45:55 +0000 UTC]
For the last two years I was a walking scarecrow. I think they'll anticipate that this time, so its time to unleash the big guns.
-Snoof
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shalonpalmer In reply to Snoofalah [2006-09-01 21:59:41 +0000 UTC]
oh, but the real question... will they be anticipating that you're anticipating that they'll be anticipating your arrival as a scarecrow...
but seriously, the scarecrow sounds like it was pretty cool... and i definitely want to see what you come up with for this year.
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Snoofalah In reply to shalonpalmer [2006-09-01 22:03:38 +0000 UTC]
Heh, I guess the anticipation is killing me.
I'll do my best with the mask and then take photos. I need to make four masks just in case one is broken.
-Snoof
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shalonpalmer In reply to Snoofalah [2006-09-03 17:14:49 +0000 UTC]
definitely post pics when you're finished, i'd love to see them!
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Snoofalah In reply to shalonpalmer [2006-09-03 17:20:46 +0000 UTC]
Shall do. Thank you for your help.
-Snoof
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shalonpalmer In reply to Papier-mache [2006-08-14 22:07:39 +0000 UTC]
thanks, hope it is useful for you - and if you have any questions, definitely feel free to ask away!!
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Iecee [2006-05-26 20:19:45 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for sharing! I will try it on one of my children but it seems to take a lot of time! I tried it with plaster once but it wasn't a great success. I think this way one can work more precisely. Do you really mean baking flour?
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shalonpalmer In reply to Iecee [2006-05-28 13:42:40 +0000 UTC]
yeah... baking flour. it is really really time consuming though. I recommend using those plaster bandages, you can get the same small cuts and delicate pieces but it probably sets up faster. I just hope you have a patient child!!
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Iecee In reply to shalonpalmer [2006-06-02 14:29:05 +0000 UTC]
No they are not at all!!
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shalonpalmer In reply to Iecee [2006-06-02 16:50:33 +0000 UTC]
well... plaster bandages are possibly your best bet - alginate is good if you want to do face castings... or moulage... they both set up faster which may be good for those impatient little ones!!!
check out these links, they may help with similar projects with the kids - [link] [link]
and this link was helpful to me when I was making masks - [link]
and check out ~eyefeather her work is great, and she's great on answering questions...
hope this helped.
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