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Silas-Coldwine β€” No Spanish Civil War (Coldwine's Take)-2015

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Published: 2017-09-24 23:52:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 2911; Favourites: 33; Downloads: 19
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Description The continuation ofΒ the former NSCW map , after Operasie Sitadel: A nuclear standoff between Spain and Fascist South Africa that escalated and resulted in the latter being completely annihilated. This world, without a Mutual Assured Destruction doctrine, had not grown afraid of nuclear weaponry as much as our world did, resulting in disaster, a Second Depression: a crisis part economic, part moral. And surely did prompt changes around the world. Via the Mafia Wars and the Spring of the Three Queens, both the Italian Fascist regime and the Fascist bloc dissolved. China unified, and the Soviet Union underwent heavy reforms, as the wave of protests proved malcontent and stagnation not to be limited to the Fascist sphere.

Both the Fascist and the Communist World have left remnants, though; there's also Ghana, a single-party Trotskyist state that claims to be the only one that has not betrayed the ideology; and there are the hot spots of the world where pre-Trotskyist Anarchism has gone back with a vengeance... but they're the exception in a convergent, post-ideological consensus that has much more to do with geopolitical blocs than with plainly political ones. Said blocs, though, move around a much more egalitarian common ground than that of our own timeline. And yet, only 30 years later, the world is starting to overcome the part nostalgic, part nihilistic spirit of the post-Sitadel era and really starts to look forward.
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QuantumBranching [2017-10-26 06:03:26 +0000 UTC]

Is it really a nuclear standoff if only one side can deliver nukes?

So was Spain backing rebels based in Angola and Mozambique or some such?

If the USSR is largely "post-communist", how does it justify its continued existence? How is it handling the multiple ethnic groups?

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to QuantumBranching [2017-10-26 11:13:11 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I know that better and it deserve a better explanation. Spain (and Portugal) were backing reveral regimes and rebels in an Africa filled with bush wars. Portugal was an allied, democratic and *Trotskyist federation, and included both Angola and Mozambique. Both sides could deliver nukes, actually. Operasie Sitadel was a plan for a tactical use of nukes against a conventional army as a deterrent that would draw them to the negotiating table or to surrender. Spain had the capability to answer as there were ICBM-capable submarines lined up in the Namibian coast. Spain answered to part of their deployed army being wiped out with another nuke near Windhoek. South Africa answered with more nukesΒ  wiping out villages and cities along the Namibian-South African border, and then Spain said enough is enough and nuked Cape Town, Pretoria, Johannesburg and... pretty much everything there.

The USSR... it was hinted that it has *Trotskyfied to a great degree. As in, it hasn't renounced to its revolutionary symbology nor goals, they just operate in the framework of an open society and it's likely that they're a bit dilluted. It's also likelier that it works much more like an actual federation now, though the Russians are still more equal than others. There were present-day snapshots that showed Soviet magazines and websites commenting on international culture and affairs in a way that hinted freedom of information, and non-Soviet forums had Soviet citizens casually commenting stuff on them.

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QuantumBranching In reply to Silas-Coldwine [2017-10-27 01:06:30 +0000 UTC]

Hmm. My point was that the South Africans couldn't hit _Spain_, which made their forcing a confrontation suicidally stupid. But then stupidity is the third inevitable force in human affairs, along with death and taxes.

Ah, and I see you made the USSR a more purple-y color to reflect its move towards Trotsky. So it's still trying to maintain legitimacy as a "socialist" and progressive nation while democratizing: what's the economy like at this point, or was there just not enough data in the scenario to really say?

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to QuantumBranching [2017-10-27 12:17:25 +0000 UTC]

The data was scarce. I assumed a move towards a mixed economy with greater democratic management of the workplace, hence the *Trotskyfication.

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QuantumBranching [2017-10-12 23:13:10 +0000 UTC]

So, any estimates on when we can expect text? Still waiting after over a year for Vongrief's [1] writeups...

[1]Β castlegreifenghast.deviantart.…

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to QuantumBranching [2017-10-13 02:07:21 +0000 UTC]

Curious that you mention. I was really tempted to do my second writeup today, but I felt lazy. It's been a long week. I'll seriously try write them all this week.

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QuantumBranching In reply to Silas-Coldwine [2017-10-13 03:29:19 +0000 UTC]

Yay!

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