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Silas-Coldwine — Serrano's Republic: Political Parties.

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Published: 2017-03-19 03:44:46 +0000 UTC; Views: 4420; Favourites: 35; Downloads: 12
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Description The result of an AH conversation I had recently: the parties of a surviving First Spanish Republic... in its final, Centralist form.

It goes like this: The details of the Virginius Incident change so it happens in 1874, with Serrano and his Republican dictatorship on. He settles the issue with the British, but he adopts a much more hawkish attitude towards the US. An earlier Spanish-American war erupts, and this time, with much more equilibrated forces than in our '98, Spain wins. The morale boost legitimizes Serrano and makes Cánovas reconsider his plans for a Bourbon restoration. Eventually, the concentration government results in a constitutional convention that seals the fate of Spain as a Unitarian republic, and the Radicals and the Constitutionalists spend the subsequent decades trying to keep the Federalists down and out, for their victory would jeopardize the new order, which only, joined to the fact this Republic banned Marxist parties for decades, radicalized their cause and linked it to the worker's movement. The Carlists, meanwhile, lost steam as time went by, eventually fusing with other Traditionalist parties, just to evolve towards a quite particular form of Christian democracy that agglutinates the rural Conservatives and the interests of the regions and nationalities, devoid of representation. Meanwhile, the Moderates resist, first as the main Monarchist ticket, and later evolving towards a mix of National Populism with their traditional, extremely vertical conception of governance, thus establishing themselves as the main far-right form of opposition.
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HetaSlovakia [2021-01-30 14:44:40 +0000 UTC]

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to HetaSlovakia [2021-01-30 14:55:48 +0000 UTC]

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HetaSlovakia In reply to Silas-Coldwine [2021-01-30 15:28:19 +0000 UTC]

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to HetaSlovakia [2021-01-30 16:50:45 +0000 UTC]

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HetaSlovakia In reply to Silas-Coldwine [2021-01-30 20:58:16 +0000 UTC]

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to HetaSlovakia [2021-01-30 22:01:09 +0000 UTC]

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Borisyukishvili [2020-08-17 20:10:25 +0000 UTC]

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ibrahim206 [2019-08-18 16:59:10 +0000 UTC]

Where my anti revisionist communist party at...

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to ibrahim206 [2019-08-18 19:10:05 +0000 UTC]

Witin the framework of the First Republic? Banned I fear. No to say there's no entryism tho...

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Clawfiren [2017-09-19 12:52:08 +0000 UTC]

Mira, ando intentando crear una España cantonalista/Margalliana en un RP en NationStates, y la verdad que no sé cómo enfocarlo. No sé si hacer un sistema multipartidista, unipartidista o apartidista. Y mil y un cosas que no tengo ni idea de cómo enfocar. Me acordé de que habías hecho varias historias alternativas entorno a la época y decidí mirar en busca de inspiración. Sin embargo, tampoco es lo que buscaba, no sé, ¿me puedes ayudar con esto un poco?

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to Clawfiren [2017-09-19 19:08:35 +0000 UTC]

Es difícil decirlo con la información de la que dispongo. He consultado a un amigo que sabe bastante de política española contemporánea y me ha asegurado que lo del apartidismo lo ve imposible para ese caso. Que muy probablemente, partiendo desde la consolidación de poder que haría falta para mantener un sistema cantonal, sería un sistema de partido dominante generalmente tomado de las facciones del republicanismo federal, y que probablamente no todos los cantones tendrían el mismo partido dominante.

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Clawfiren In reply to Silas-Coldwine [2017-09-19 19:43:51 +0000 UTC]

Algo así suponía, gracias por la aclaración.

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QuantumBranching [2017-03-21 08:14:35 +0000 UTC]

Nice designs there. I like the extremist moderates, which only goes to show political parties are even more open to re-interpretation over time than religions.

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Scrapknight-507 [2017-03-20 08:13:33 +0000 UTC]

I love the far-right Moderados, and my Spanish is (just) good enough that I got the PCE pun.

I like these kinds of things, because it's a good motivator to check out more Spanish history, which is really interesting! So much appreciated

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MetalSlimeHunt [2017-03-19 23:14:56 +0000 UTC]

I get the feeling writing for Our Fathers' Stars may have somewhat shifted your reaction to the word "moderate".

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matritum [2017-03-19 12:08:15 +0000 UTC]

PCE: Partido de la Constitución Española.   

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to matritum [2017-03-19 13:34:16 +0000 UTC]

El juego de siglas es completamente intencional.

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matritum In reply to Silas-Coldwine [2017-03-19 16:05:08 +0000 UTC]

Lo suponía.

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Twiggierjet [2017-03-19 03:53:52 +0000 UTC]

I like how one of the most moderate parties is called radical, and one of the most radical is called moderate.

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Silas-Coldwine In reply to Twiggierjet [2017-03-19 13:37:11 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I've played with several ironic results, some being more evident than others. For example, PCE, in our timeline, is the acronym of the Communist Party of Spain. In the case you mention, the "moderate" and "radical" brands were already present in the 19th century, and I played with the fact that, from our perspective, they look like nothing of the sort.

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