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silversister In reply to WindsOfChange13 [2010-11-22 21:19:29 +0000 UTC]

What a grand way to put it! XDDD

Thanks pal!

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WindsOfChange13 In reply to silversister [2010-11-22 21:52:08 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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silversister In reply to El-Drago-800 [2010-02-24 20:26:26 +0000 UTC]

Awwwww.

It mostly confused me as a kid. Like I didn't know what the hell was up with it. XD Plus the entire movie used to kinda bore me back then, though we only saw it once when me an' my bros were little Disney-loving tykes! *now it's mainly just me*

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El-Drago-800 In reply to silversister [2010-02-25 10:23:25 +0000 UTC]

It must be something to do with a combination of the ominous latin chanting, the spooky giants in the red robes, the fact that he's singing about his lust for Esmeralda driving him insane and the terrorfyingly amazing musical score which is why it scared me sh*tless as a kid. XP

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silversister In reply to El-Drago-800 [2010-02-25 17:24:42 +0000 UTC]

Basically, too mind-blowingly awesome for your young mind to handle? XDDD

But it's cool, we've all had our share of Nightmare Fuel from Disney, though I can't personally recall my slice of it... XD

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El-Drago-800 In reply to silversister [2010-05-07 19:52:25 +0000 UTC]

Nightmare Fuel? You got that from TVTropes, didn'cha? X)

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silversister In reply to El-Drago-800 [2010-05-15 20:35:40 +0000 UTC]

When there's a comment over-troped, you know who's responsible. XDDD

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silversister In reply to Ivaloinen [2009-07-21 19:38:25 +0000 UTC]

Mää muistelin et olit jo kattonu tän... *eks joskus fanartannu Esmeraldan?* O.o

Ja tosi; Frollo on mahtava normi!bad-ass. XD

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Ivaloinen In reply to silversister [2009-07-21 19:45:38 +0000 UTC]

Hmmmm, ehkää! On kyllä ei mitään muistoja, jos olin sen aiemmin nähnyt... Esmeraldan muistan kyllä piirtäneeni joskus aikoja sitten, mutta inspis taisi tulla siitä että omistin muinoin esmeralda barbien xD Oooh niitä aikoja, missähän sekin nukke nykyään painelee.

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silversister In reply to ElenaTria [2008-07-25 13:58:01 +0000 UTC]

It has it's fanbase I know, but Disney itself tends to put it on the "often ignored"-list.

Or I dunno... Maybe I just don't lurk enough.

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ElenaTria In reply to silversister [2008-07-25 23:12:25 +0000 UTC]

Often-ignored list??! WTF???! Just because Esmeralda isn't one of those silly "Princesses"?!
Disney.... pffft... they never knew when they had something *really* valuable and original in their hands.....

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silversister In reply to ElenaTria [2008-07-26 20:33:37 +0000 UTC]

That's actually quite true. I'm very puzzeled about them pimping out their new crap *High School Musical and some of the new cartoons and movies for one* while it was their old material that really touched the majority of this generation. I know you gotta move on in life, but to completely ignore like it never happened...? =____=;

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ElenaTria In reply to silversister [2008-07-28 22:27:08 +0000 UTC]

High School Musical? So bad, huh?...
And yeah, like... Pirates of the Carribean???! WTF???!! I'm sorry, but I'm so NOT a fan of the trilogy, I just don't get it, why it's so popular and all...
They ignore HoND like it never happened, eh? GEEZ. I hadn't noticed that, maybe because I'm SO into it that I just don't notice what people say (or don't say ). It was a major box-office hit here in Greece back then (I can't say the same for Hercules, we found it totally insulting.... )

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silversister In reply to ElenaTria [2008-07-30 18:03:40 +0000 UTC]

Pirates IS rather over-rated... As movies they aren't all that good, I'm personally on it for the characters for one! XDDD *wh00 for Norrington, Pintel and Ragetti*

Only attention they ever gave HoND was the sequel, and that only had the purpose of shining over with positivity and child-friendlyness the first film was all but about.
And LOL, Hercules's actually my favourite, and throughout its excistance I've been rolling my eyes at the complainers of the myth changes and all, but shamefully admitting I didn't actually think about actual Greeks and their thoughts on it. Must've been too americanized for your tastes, eh?

And it's odd, since they REALLY payed attention not to offend the chinese with Mulan. Maybe out of the experience with you? XDDD

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ElenaTria In reply to silversister [2008-07-31 00:48:41 +0000 UTC]

Gee, I know fans like Norrington, I don't know about the other two... Did those guys even get enough screen time?...
They gave attention to the HoND sequel???!!! What happened in it?..... Did they soften the edges??.
Hercules is cool. I'm totally in love with Woods' Hades. And I looove the songs. This film is a modern American myth after all, what can I say?
But if not greeks, WHO were the complainers of the myth changes?!
Too americanized, yes, in the sense that.... we just don't get the joke. We can't see Jimmy Stewart in Hercules, nor Barbara Stanwyck in Megara, nor an athlete's agent in Hades.
You sure they didn't offend the chinese with Mulan???.. I mean, she doesn't even look as if she's THAT chinese.... I don't know, magic crickets, funny ancestor ghosts, dragons and all...
Experience with US???!!! Believe me, they could never give a crap about us. I remember a greek journalist in an interview with Alan Menken, and he asked him why he didn't use A BIT of greek music in the score, say bazouki music, instead he used something totally irrelevant, gospel music, and Menken was "down on his knees" saying sorry sorry sorry in a parallel universe I would have used greek music..........



What???! What's to apologize about?! As if!!!

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silversister In reply to ElenaTria [2008-08-04 17:08:58 +0000 UTC]

Pintel and Ragetti? They're these two. And they got more screentime in the later sequels, so it figures you don't recall them all that much.
And I've been actually smart enough to stay away from HonD 2 so far, but I hear it was about this band of thieves arriving into Paris to steal this super-special-awesome bell from the Notre Dame, and Quasi falls in love with one of their girls. The cheesy trailer of it is enough to keep your five mile distance. xP

Well, the usual fans and extemists of course! Who else can make more noise and complains than the "old school and original"-fanboys? I know the Americanization can boil your kettle too much, but sheesh, even well after 10 years people just can't STFU about it. -______-; I had never heard of the Menken interview though, kinda akward for him to be explainng himself to actual Greeks about his freedoms with the music... Must've just really loved the idea of black women singing Gospel more than actual Greek music. O___o;
No, I heard Mulan was a major block-buster hit and very liked in China. I heard some of the only ones mad about the movie were super-feminists, but it's kinda hard NOT to upset them, you know? XDDD

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ElenaTria In reply to silversister [2008-08-05 00:14:18 +0000 UTC]

And these two have fans...... >siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh<
Steal the BELL of Notre Dame??!!!!!
Ok, these people are pulling scripts out of their asses....
What's old school and original???! The Black Cauldron?!..
And what? Those complaining about the Americanization are actually Americans? Or others?
Well of course, why should he apologize?! To a journalist?! "I'm a bloody composer, I've made my choice! Yeah, of course it's odd for a Greek, so what?.."
Why were super-feminists upset by Mulan?!!..

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silversister In reply to ElenaTria [2008-08-05 16:28:10 +0000 UTC]

By old school I was referring to the original myths-fans, and how they can't get over the changes Disney did...
Plus most Disney-fans HAVE called Hercules the milestone that ended the quality era of Disney-films since the Little Mermaid.

And the feminists were upset about her having to become a man to be able to do the heroics that she did.
Pffft, she just wore the mens uniform *obviously* and got a bit buffed by the military-training. The wittyness she used against the Huns were there since her days and life as a woman, so once again; WTF extreme!feminists? WT flippin' F?

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ElenaTria In reply to silversister [2008-08-29 15:55:10 +0000 UTC]

Oh well, changes.. If they don't like the new Disney they should stick to the old (like I did) and stop complaining.
Yes... Hercules was indeed the end of it all....
Yeah, the thing about extreme feminists is that they aaaaaaalways find reasons to complain. What a sucky way to live!.. Well, wtf, it's a bloody chinese fable, what was Disney supposed to do? Change the whole story so as not to upset femininsts?

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silversister In reply to calicokatt [2008-07-05 20:40:15 +0000 UTC]

Phhankhyuu Chalicho- *allmost chokes in her awesome flakes* Damn I shouldn't deserve to eat these...! XDDD

Thank you Caliko! X3 And yes, Hunchback kicks all the ass in the world!!!

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silversister In reply to Icequeenkitty [2008-07-05 20:35:09 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, on the finnish version of the song [say, why not peek out of interest when you get the time? Mr. Ossi Ahlapuro was the best pick for Finn!Frollo they could've ever made! ] at YouTube people made comments how the "hideous monster" sings about falling in love with her, while the "honoured judge" sings about either letting her burn or selfishly claiming her completely...

And I had NEVER even thought about it like that!

Thanks for the comment though darling, you flatter me so! -n___n-

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Icequeenkitty In reply to silversister [2008-07-08 03:50:38 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah he is appropriately creepy. D:

Creepy creeeeeeeepy old man.

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silversister In reply to Basil-Ovelby [2008-07-05 20:24:09 +0000 UTC]

The fireplace line was one of the best! XDDD Only funny line Frollo was given! I actually think his finnish dub made it sound even funnier...

And THAAAAAANK you for the compliments, dear! You're making it sound more of a success than what I drew! XDDD

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silversister In reply to Dy-na-mo [2008-06-28 08:07:49 +0000 UTC]

Frollo <3 indeedz! XDDD

Kiiitoksia, rispektiä niille jotka Alan Menkenin musiikkitaidot tajuaa! ^.^

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silversister In reply to Kellodrawsalot [2008-06-25 13:21:25 +0000 UTC]

You think so? As I've watched the movie more recently at this age, I've come to think of Frollo as actually tragic and sad in the end. O.o Plus more memorable and powerful Disney-villian too! ^^

Thank you! ^^

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Kellodrawsalot In reply to silversister [2008-07-12 08:57:30 +0000 UTC]

my Gf is convinced that he is the true father of Quasimodo and that he likes gispy woman the bad way ( if ya know what i mean )

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silversister In reply to Kellodrawsalot [2008-07-12 09:02:08 +0000 UTC]

I heard similiar debates on a Internet Movie DataBase-forums... I never really pictured it like that, though... XDDD Partly 'cause my mind's too occupied with Frollo x Esmeralda!

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silversister In reply to Turquoisephoenix [2008-06-25 13:19:23 +0000 UTC]

I might call it the most powerful than most prettiest, but basically we intend the same thing! XDDD But it's not the first abnormally dark and controversial thing Disney ever did. *cough*DarkwingDuck&GoofyMovie*cough*

LOL, Smokerella! Thanks TP! ^________^

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Turquoisephoenix In reply to silversister [2008-06-25 16:27:23 +0000 UTC]

Oh man, rewatching Darkwing Duck the other day made me realize just how much they were allowed to get away with back in the day. XD The two-parter "Just Us Justice Ducks" alone probably would've gotten a TON of censor notes now. So much delightfully funny and cruel violence. One of the lines was "Don't stand so close, you might get blood on you".

Hey, you're welcome.

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silversister In reply to Turquoisephoenix [2008-06-28 07:13:37 +0000 UTC]

Not to mention the ever epic "Hot Spells" Daymn, how'd they even got into airing that one?! XDDD

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