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Published: 2018-02-09 17:57:19 +0000 UTC; Views: 6804; Favourites: 145; Downloads: 0
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Companion toTo be honest this was a better render but no background did it justice.
Thats the Hound done to death I think
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Just found this in Design Addicts Featured. Its brilliant!
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Thanks
This one started a whole development line
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Coming back to this aircraft, I had a thought beforehand (and it was very painful), what if TWEECo had taken the Grumman XF5F Skyrocket and did the same upgrade as the Hound. That is, use the Wright Cyclone engines to operate lift generators as well, and shorten the wingspan. Your thoughts, please.
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Yes I think it is almost perfect although it might be a retrograde step as the Hound is early thirties.
Perhaps leave the inboard aerofoil section and slap 4 x .5 in the front.
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That was what I had in mind. Or, maybe, leave two .50 cal. MG's inboard while fitting 2 x 20 mm into that center wing section with the ammo boxes inside the fuselage where it meets the trailing edge of the wing.
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Wonder what she'll look like with a three or four-blade prop and enclosed cockpit? And semi-retractable landing gear?
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Been thinking similar but have my self cornered because the next logical step would be Hurricanesque on a single power unit.
The twin with the retractable landing gear and enclosed cockpit is equally attractive to me but I can' t go calling a twin a Hurricane but then I shouldn't use the name Hurricane if I couldn't bring myself to use Spitfire for the Spectre.
I think I might be over thinking all this
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Maybe you should throw the baby out with the bath water and rethink this through again. Maybe follow the lines of the Spectre for the rough idea and tweek it here and there. Or staying with the Hound, go through the next level of redesign, i.e., put in the retractable gear and enclosed cockpit and, maybe, call it the Winston, in honor of the PM. Or maybe the Bulldog as both were tough and tenacious. Just a passing thought.
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After the earlier discussion with you I dug out a plan and side view cell shade render of the Hound and overlaid a 3 view Hurricane plan on them - it just looks so right
I suppose its not that surprising as I based the Hound initially on the Hawker Fury and the next logical step after the Fury was the Hurricane. So, I might actually follow through with the twin Hurricane type thing only with 4 x Hispano 20mm canon ala Whirlwind
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Sounds like a wiener to me, mate!
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You made into the featured section of design-addicts. Not something we do lightly, only the best make it there. Well done!
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It is an honour sir - thank you
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Background gives context, but it's not always the best for delivering the concept in its most coherent form, w/ the strongest silhouette. So, you are excused from the compulsion to show another Hound view! 
IMO, you could have even added some blue hue to this neutral background. As a product designer, it's what i do all day long -making stuff pop! But then, that's a more commercial venue -doesn't account for desired mood or tone.
This is perfectly cool, but it sometimes drives me nuts when someone puts an amazing mech or something, let's say dark grey, on a dark grey background. Same exact value. Artist does an amazing thing: i wanna see it! Which is why i almost prefer the tacky zany 80s presentations with like a teal or purple design on a nuclear yellow background. Not realistic, but visually readable. 
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No probs, ramble away. I'm always up for feedback, ideas and just chat.
I was getting a little fed up by the time this was done. This stuff takes me ages to do and by the time its rendering I have had enough for a while. I will go back maybe.
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Understand completely. I have plenty of stuff unshaded and unfinished, but i just can't stand to look at the damn things anymore. Enough hours already. Could only go back after cleansing w/ newer stuff.
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... and there are those times when I go back and think to myself that I must have gone temporally mad and just hit delete
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It has more of a shine to it, that is why it works, more of a reflection, a dull reflection is required to create aluminium, no criticism though as it looks good, they both do.
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One of the main hassles is getting the right background image or make props for an environment to reflect, then the lighting which always wants to burn out areas. Get it right in one pose, change it and it all goes to shit ... wonderful generator for new swear words
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I understand. That is why you need to move your creations into the ether as does Mike Doscher. Imagine a squadron of pressurised Hawker Hounds on fire just off the shoulder of Orion, their canopies glittering in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.
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I'm an earth bound doggy.
I'm having too much fun with the internal combustion in the 20's 30's and 40's although some clever Nazi may reach escape velocity.... having said that I sort of did with Fuerball XL5
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Well as soon as you move into gravity nullifying then you move into the world of the sub-ether, Martian Wars and the colonisation of the solar system. Same styles, same designs but with additional capabilities, with a gravity nullifier space becomes accessible. If it is accessible then those fighter types will push their crates into the ether... I can already see a Handley Page Heracles above the deserts of Mars.
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I see where you are coming from but there is one detail you forget.
These are normally aspirated engines. Super/Turbo chargers are in play but above a certain height performance drops off until there is zilch and the bugger stops working.
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Yes. I see what you are saying.
The trouble with 'down' is that it arrives quickly when unpowered. In your universe, the one third from the left, if you go 'up' too much then you just slow down just as in this one but possibly a little higher? but not necessarily. Rocket boosting did start to occur at the times you are currently exploring and I suggest they would be more advanced (or in development) given the possibility of entering orbit and certainly due to the limitations of the aspirated engine, something would be exploited to give a height advantage by one side or the other. More poo for you to explore. I can't use the word crap, oh I just did.
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You are right, there was a lot of rocketry going on especially in Germany with rocket assisted takeoff to stuff like the ME163.
Could be worth mucking about with but rockets though simply just run out of puff.
If we want to go on a Mission from, lets say MildenHall, and deploy to the Moon, then sett off to Mars for a spot of dinner before we go out to zap anything we don't like the look of, we are going to need lots of fuel. Better still an alternative exotic power supply and vacuum/Atmosphere capable engine which before you know it leads to a scenario where all the women are walking round in short skirts like in Star Trek or tight silver suits like in UFO and no bloody work will get done.
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At first I thought it was a derivation of the de Haviland Mosquito.
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I would get no work done with Lieutenant Ellis, well I'd get a lot of something done but no actual work.
I could meet you at Mildenhall to try it all those suppositions out.
The anti-grav can be used for thrust I assume or is it a simple on/off? I have to say I don't think the latter could be true as gravity varies and the mere existence of a gravity nullifying field generator that spins up implies a force that varies with rotation rather than just nullification. So, if a gravity generator has 'strength' it is capable of being used as a thrust. Otherwise the anti-grav tanks would just sit on the floor, requiring someone to lift them to the desired height. Going down hills would be a problem as they would just float off in the air rather than hug the ground, so there must be some inherent thrust. The problem then becomes just how to power the thrusters in space. Submarines used hydrogen peroxide for the torpedoes and so did Nazi rockets so controlled ignition of these substances could provide fuel to heat a turbine to turn a generator. In fact, large steam engines powered by coal could do the same. Just getting them into orbit would be a struggle. Lightweight compact steam seems to be the solution.
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mmmm Lt Ellis ... and perhaps Ayshea Brough somewhere in the mix too
I read your text and now have a picture in my head of a Gresley A4 Pacific engine being accelerated to escape velocity
You know, I think I might have to get down on paper the basic principles of my approach to lift on my timeline. Its not so much lift as a nullification of the weight. It was a combination of thinking about Star trek but in their past and their early tech before they got into space. This along with how a flying battleship could operate without the high lift gas or minerals that seem to be common in stories. I can't live with either of those so I went searching for stuff and started with Tesla and it went from there. A flying battleship has tons of room for power station grade tech to create a huge electromagnetic field ( I need to go back to this).
You my friend are getting my juices going and I'm not talking about Lt Ellis either
Should I slap it in status update and send to all watchers so it can be discussed or perhaps as a journal or produce a diagram if I can and a load of text ?
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A Gresley A4 Pacific engine being accelerated to escape velocity, what a fantastic idea. It needs an image all by itself. The ramp, the streamlining already in place, the massive gravity generators just behind the main tender, the power being delivered by ducted steam to a turbine. I can see that too now.
The Victorian invention of the supposed gravity nullifying material, I forget what its name was but it caused many accidents when it was originally created, nullifying the gravity above whatever happened to be there. Not good to nullify the gravity below your laboratory roof. It needs to be expounded upon remembering that gravity is a force and to nullify a force seems to imply an equal and opposite force that without the force to repell would result in thrust... The Tesla force would have to be a force that uses the energy in gravity in order to nullify gravity, an energy or a device that can only exist in the presence of gravity converting that force in some way. Otherwise when you switch it on to full power in the absence of gravity then a thrust would be achieved. It is a difficult one when you try to nullify not only gravity but the fundamentals of physics itself. Read Mike Doscher's attempts to explain away his lighter than air devices. Worth reading.
Glad to be stimulating - that is my aim. I saw Gabrielle Drake in Au Pair Girls with my mates in a sordid 70s cinema in London. Ah, retrovision.
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Gabriel Drake had a magnificent pair of ears from what I remember and a famous brother too but his music never really got to me as much as here ears did.
I must read Mike Doschers stuff. I love his work but have only flicked through text and stuff - a bad habit of mine.
Gravity is not being screwed with as such. Think weight compensation via electrical means... my head is beginning to hurt again
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Check your email...
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like I said. Magnificent ears
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She is pretty too, well-spoken, a lovely natural body and a floozie.
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Yes 100% ....... and a floozie - I love that term and nobody says it any more... except you of course.
Made me chuckle no end
Thats got to be a project name - The Fairy Floozie or the Fairchild Floozie mk1
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It seems so apt and it gives an indication of moral stance without being too cruel.
Fairey Floozie MK1 was a real go-er. Twin radials upfront. Had a heavy payload and was capable of giving its target a real going-over. Lovely Camo.
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haha - excellent
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Nicely done. Whatever I may think of the engineering aspects of it, I have to admire how believable and lovely it looks. Two thumbs up!
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Thanks
I beefed up the cross bracing but its still feeble but then it does rely on generating huge amounts of electric power for Tcoils and the electromagnetic field on mass effect... which is all crap. Fun to think about, but crap
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Such crap has fertilized the intellectual fields of many a young mind. Where would we be without imagination to inspire us? Keep up the good work.
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You come out with great lines "Such crap has fertilized the intellectual fields of many a young mind"
I will do my best only this is no young mind sloshing about between the audio sensors.
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No spring chicken here pecking at the keyboard.
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