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Published: 2018-02-09 12:32:00 +0000 UTC; Views: 9089; Favourites: 145; Downloads: 0
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Winter 1932 and 19 Squadron takes advantage of a break in the weather after days of rain and sleet.A huge thank you to Daniel-Wales-Images for allowing me to use his image:
If somehow you have missed Daniels photography then go check him out but beware, you will be gone for some time
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Somebody on beyond the sprue suggested I should talk to someone I can't remember the name of of about this.
Never turn a hobby into business - completely screws the vibe in my experience.
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"Visualize a massive factory complex with enormous buildings, housing huge 3D printing machines, with an army of skilled laborers and robots, happily cranking out thousands of Veeb's and SBD's until the sky is turned black with them blotting out the sun, and we can't figure out where to park the darned things!" - PAV
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The world will kneel at our feet ... paws in my case.
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There are some answers in the stories I slap together but thinking about Nicola Teslas ideas taken out of all proportion would help get the idea and largely the Electrogravitics theories of Thomas Townsend Brown. All this is crap of course but it was enough to spark an idea for alt tech on a parallel time line and the reason I did that was because everybody and their grandmother in 3D seems to either make porn models or ww2 aircraft. I can't model organics so the porn was out the window
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You can still put pin ups on em
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I have no idea what that means
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www.messynessychic.com/2015/08…
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I see.
I must have been having a dead brain day
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Very cool, I am always blown away by your 3D-fu!
For curiosities sake, what's the polycount on that figure?
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HMmm .... a "flying wingless" it would seem ... ( from a small yellow dog )
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Good looking aircraft! You did it again, SBD! However, I would have expected to see some form of a stub wing on it.
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Mr Camm was determined that if he was going to use artificial lift then it would be totally artificial lift
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But if his design had lost one engine, or lift generator, then the aircraft would nicely auger into the terra firma.
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That is a problem with the whole concept of my lift generators - what about engine failure ?
There is a capacitor or accumulator fed from the generator which feeds the lift generators and so there is a stored charge at all times but this is of course only good for a matter of minutes after engine failure.
In something like the Spectre it is enough time for the pilot to aim the thing out of harms way (ish) and hit the silk.
Something like the Spirit will glide and so under favourable conditions you could get it down in one piece.
Twins can have a single power unit run both lift generators but again but at a reduced performance. Multi engine configurations have more power storage as well.
BUT what if a lift generator goes down - I need to think on this although they are very simple devices although they get a little hot hence all the heat sinks I slap on them (couldn't think of anything else)
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Somehow I see the capacitor as a means of storing the excess energy then bleed it off when the generators are running steady. As an electrician, and retired maintenance technician, that was how I was taught that capacitors do. Besides blocking DC voltage between amplifier circuits in radios. And if you're running twin engines in your aircraft, and one engine goes out, then the pilot can make a switch to run the other lift unit off of the remaining engine. However, your performance goes down the loo and you're stuck with a slow aircraft that's a sitting duck for enemy aircraft or ground fire.
But if you do lose a lift generator, then it's GERONIMO and pull the cord!
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Cap, accumulator or whatever a rechargeable electrical storage device is called .... Perhaps a battery ...I'm not very good at this electrickery stuff
Twins are pretty much the safer bet (in hindsight twins may have been the better main configuration on this time line idea) The performance drop off is a combat no no as you say but if you have just lost power through combat then you were not going to be doing any more fighting regardless. The stored charge is available for engine failure on take off but then this in itself is a whole area I have only glanced at. With lift generation I guess we have VSTOL and so I imagine a combined throttle & lift control lever. Perhaps a throttle quadrant similar to the style of the day but with twist grip (and friction ring) for lift selection. When ground running the engine(s) you don't want the lift generators cutting in
My head is beginning to hurt
I think I might have to start putting wings on things and forget electrical lift generation.
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Take two aspirins and chase them with a glass of bourbon. An accumulator (or capacitron, a term I found in a sci-fi story once describing the same thing) would hold enough of a charge to ramp up the lift generators on take-off and landing. It would also hold a steady electrical charge in flight for whatever maneuvers would be needed in the course of action.
The idea of a cyclic stick (as on helicopters) sounds plausible to control both throttle, and increase or decrease lift. That would follow the control setup for helicopters. And you can use the control stick, or yoke, to adjust the amount to each lift generator along the lines of ailerons. Maybe add a lever to the stick to allow the pilot to engage dive brakes/flaps for those times when he needs to either get out of the way of someone, or drop in behind them.
Your thoughts, please?
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Yes, control column LG rate of roll and the combined throttle/LG control is how I thought about them too so thats cool.
I have for some time been considering how these things power up pre flight, come off the wheels and make the transition to powered flight.
Dive brakes are something that I have thought of as I can't see the need for flaps but there is a need to bleed off forward speed for landing and, as you say, a handy combat manoeuvre.
Now I think about it an air brake(s) is a must and I have a stable full of designs without them
Could perhaps have flap like brakes in the usual flap position with adjustable slats for different modes of braking.
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Somehow I see a much shorter take-off roll before lifting into the air. Setting your flaps and slats to just the right angle would help with that. And possibly have a reversing function of the LG that would allow some of the energy to shunted forward to help in slowing down in a dive. As for landing, maybe a combination of flaps, slats, and reversing lift would help in slowing down enough to land.
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A short take off roll and elevator control I imagine would have them airborne in a much shorter run than say a Fieseler storch doing its best. The lift is already there, no need for speed to get airflow over a wing. Landing I imagine as flying a standard approach where gear and air brakes are deployed and rolling off the effect of the LG so as to sink onto the ground. The airbrake(s) have helped reduce the forward speed and wheel brakes can take over.
Perhaps a canard layout would be better where by the canard can rotate at 90 degrees - that would slow the buggers down on landing.
Best not try that trick at combat speeds though as the may not stay stuck on
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The take-off and landing sounds good to me. As for the canards, maybe have the movable surface able to split into speed brakes and not have the empannage tear off when trying to do a 90-degree rotation.
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I have an alternative P51 idea that involves a canard layout but I will be damned if I can get idea out - been trying for months.
Right now I'm curios to see how a slightly "Hurricanised" version of the Hound will look. All that nose section is crying out for some serious firepower to be fitted
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Instead of a P-51, how about the Curtis XP-59 Ascender. It was already a rear-engine design with canards. As for the Hound, how about a belly package with two to four 20 mm cannons?
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I was looking into real world pushers back when the Spectre was coming together. The XP59 always interested me especially the jettisonable prop.
For the Hound I can't get beyond seeing a nose full of Hispano - sort of Whirlwind like. Also I will have the undercarriage very similar to the hurricane as LG equipment and related would not allow much room.
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There was a Japanese style of pusher that they developed right towards the end of the war. And let us not forget the Swedish Saab that started out as a piston engine aircraft and finished with a jet.
As to undercarriage, are you speaking of the fixed type with the fairing? If so, then fit your guns in them.
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No, undercarriage will be wide track fold inwards ala Hurricane. The hound is still WW1 era in as much the lewis guns are accessible to the pilot and not in some remote position on the fuselage or other as would become the norm.
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Sorry, misunderstood. Lewis? Figured that they would still be Vickers.
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Crap yes, Vickers.
My mind has finally gone
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Well, if I should find it, do you want me to ship it back via FedEx?
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It might not survive the journey
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Hate to keep something as precious as that. Down, Golum, not yours!
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So this is an anti-grav aircraft w/ props for forward propulsion, right?
I'm curious how the props and ant-grav system work together in terms of power supply. I know you've thought this out. 
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It started with Tesla Coils and crazy old theories such as exploiting the electromagnetic field on mass effect to compensate for weight and drag. The engines are for thrust in either tractor or pusher configuration and are generating huge amounts of electric power for the Tcoils and EFM effect.
Not thought too much beyond that as its all crap but it gives me the excuse to re imagine historic aircraft design
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Righto - so the prop engines are basically generators for the anti-grav field doo-dads. Thought so. So, still basically powered by aviation fuel, I guess.
Since not dependent on wings for lift, I guess it would be pretty dang maneuverable? Not susceptible to wind shears either, i suppose. But maybe to ionization changes in the atmo.
There was a book I read -borrowed from my father in law of all people- about retro anti-grav tech. All then "feu-fighter" sighting in WWII, and top secret German projects. You'd dig it.
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Not necessarily. After all, you need some form of control mechanism/surfaces.
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well yeah, but primary lift force is not coming from the wings...
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Not on the Hound but there is some airframe lift generation on designs like the Dolch and Spirit as the air frames are lifting bodies to a degree.
Energy shields were something I was toying with but there had to a be a trade off power wise in a single engine design.
The way I see flight controls are:
Conventional surface controls for pitch and yaw with rate of role covered by the lift generators. There is an extra dynamic with the lift generators similar to the Harrier jumpjet "Viffing".
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That's not what I was talking about. I was talking about how you control it. And unless you have the anti-grav devices placed away from the center of mass, control surfaces are the most practical means of control. Hell, even a number of SW craft have atmospheric control surfaces.
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Submit all your work to design-addicts, all automatically accepted.
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All of it.... crap and all ?
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Yes. Not all at once of course but all new works immediately and old ones once per day. All would be accepted.
I could always create a new folder for rubbish art
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That is actually a good name for it. I ~WILL~ create such a folder.
Not for your work though!
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I was delighted to find out a few years ago that the word "crapulous" exists
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I have often used "execrable" in foreign restaurants when describing their sub-standard food, with a smile on my face - and the waiter has always responded in a positive fashion with a "thankyou". Possibly a little cruel.
Crapulous is quite good. The more you think about it.
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You really shouldn't be unkind to the natives y'know.
Jolly funny though
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