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drunkpimp3000 [2011-11-04 08:37:08 +0000 UTC]
mutually assured dumbassery. Cold-blooded men in dark rooms deciding to kill millions on the other side because of one 'ism' or another. The cold war was perhaps the most insane thing our species ever did, but I'm sure we'll come up with something worse in the future.
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Sovietmaster In reply to drunkpimp3000 [2011-11-04 22:05:34 +0000 UTC]
We will - Libya is now being run by Al-qaeda (same people the US are fighting in Afghanistan. This is literally the same tactic the US used in the 80s, except they never fought islamic militants. Rather supported them) and this means Libya will go to hell. Africa is mostly a pawn to the West now (The Africa Union literally is nothing now), and there'll doubtlessly be revolts in the first world due to capitalism eating itself.
Plus with some climate changes - Humanity is already on the deathbed.
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drunkpimp3000 In reply to Sovietmaster [2011-11-04 22:23:41 +0000 UTC]
America creates its own monsters through its monstrous actions, then once they get attacked they play victim for all the world. I think the world is wise to fight against it.
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Sovietmaster In reply to drunkpimp3000 [2011-11-05 12:21:00 +0000 UTC]
Pretty much.
I recommend William Blum's killing hope for the CIA's 'joy' in military covert wars and operations across the world from western europe to Asia.
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drunkpimp3000 In reply to Sovietmaster [2011-11-05 17:26:36 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the book recommendation. Lately I've become more political minded, and will have to pick this book up at the library.
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1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g [2011-03-26 13:34:21 +0000 UTC]
Really it was Capitalism fighting some screwed up perverted form of Communism. Actual Communism has never existed, so I'd say that we've already won.
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Sovietmaster In reply to 1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g [2011-03-26 20:52:42 +0000 UTC]
And you do realize Socialism, the transitional phase of society, was this "perversion" you speak of.
And I don't really see you winning now, only just killing more people ato your morale high horse. Like in Libya, or Eygpt, or how Capitalism is destroying the lives of Eastern Europeans.
But how have you won? It took 300 years for you to win agaisnt fuedalism, and the Bolsheviks managed to beat back the armies of Japan, US, Britian, etc and then beat the Werhmarcht back in the many of the offensive and counter offensive campaigns of 1940s, especially at the 1943-44 period where Vistual-Oder campaign drove them about 200 kms away from Berlin within the course of a few months.
Tldr; Your post is very silly and I'd rather not take it srsly.
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1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g In reply to Sovietmaster [2011-03-28 19:12:58 +0000 UTC]
I'm a bit confused... I was coming from a pro-communist perspective. Either I'm misunderstanding your post or I didn't phrase mine well, but I agree with most of what you are saying. So just to clarify... what did you think I was saying? That American Capitalism SHOULD win? Because that's not what I meant at all.
And then if I still don't understand, then I apologize.
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Sovietmaster In reply to 1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g [2011-03-28 21:07:56 +0000 UTC]
Your view was that whatever types of goverments that existed (USSR, China, Eastern Europe, Cuba, etc) were a 'perversion of communism'.
Which makes me believe you are either a left-communist or anarcho-communist because any Leninist would not say such things.
Especially seeing how Marxism only foucses on 1st world nations, as Imperilism and revolution on 2nd and 3rd world nations was enhanced upon by Leninism. (Stalin created the National question, a grand theory on how a nation is and what it is composed of)
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1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g In reply to Sovietmaster [2011-03-29 23:16:53 +0000 UTC]
The reason why I believe that is because all of those countries (although I do applaud them, especially Cuba, for trying) adopted authoritarian attitudes along with communism. Unless I am mistaken, authoritarianism has no place in a communist society.
Then again, realistically a strong ruler(s) would be needed to keep order. I suppose that my view that the few rulers should be entirely benevolent and selfless is a bit whimsical. I called them perversions because it was my understanding that a dictatorship (which many of those countries turned out to be) interfered with the equal distribution of wealth.
Anyway, thank you for responding and I totally respect your opinion.
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Sovietmaster In reply to 1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g [2011-03-30 02:12:19 +0000 UTC]
You must understand that there was, hell Poland equalized the wealth of national income among the workforce.
Unskilled by .77 of the National income, skilled for .99 and managers got 1.26
In finland of the same period (1970s) unskilled got .63 while managers got 2.32.
Socialism is the transitional phase to Communism, for one cannot arrive at communism at instant. That and you still have bougoise elements within society, kulaks in the USSR and capitalist roaders in China in the 50s along.
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1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g In reply to Sovietmaster [2011-03-31 11:00:59 +0000 UTC]
That is true... Well, I was speaking strictly about countries that attempted to jump directly from capitalism to communism. I also think that socialism is a good system, and maybe a more realistic one than total communism.
So I was wrong, communism is still alive! Yeah! I take back my first comment, which I now see was a bit hostile sounding when I was really just being cynical.
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1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g In reply to 1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g1g [2011-03-28 19:17:27 +0000 UTC]
Okay, now I realize that this must have been a misunderstanding. I did do a bad job of communicating my point, which is that true communism has never existed, and if the specific goal is to eradicate exactly that, then in a literal sense capitalism has won because there have only ever existed variants and wanna-be versions of its opponent.
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