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AmnioticOef [2011-09-11 23:25:39 +0000 UTC]
Would Proterix Loomisi have dug sort of like this? [link]
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Sphenacodon In reply to AmnioticOef [2012-07-15 22:15:18 +0000 UTC]
That is just adorable, and, if Proterix was legless, looks perfectly reasonable.
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comixqueen [2009-04-15 20:54:47 +0000 UTC]
the armored head looks not unlike a Pink Fairy Armadillo
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Sphenacodon In reply to comixqueen [2009-04-17 09:24:43 +0000 UTC]
Yup, I based it on that animal. They probably had similar lifestyles.
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magpiesmiscellany [2009-02-27 02:31:13 +0000 UTC]
I like the impressionist effect.
Stupid question, how did it move? Snakelike?
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Sphenacodon In reply to magpiesmiscellany [2009-03-31 08:25:12 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!
Nope. Reptile spines flex in the horizontal plane, while mammalian spines flex in the vertical plane - hence, up-and-down, more like an inchworm than a snake. That said, the lack of legs remains controversial, and no mammal seems to have been able to maintain limbless locomotion...
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magpiesmiscellany In reply to Sphenacodon [2009-04-04 22:07:02 +0000 UTC]
Ah, never thought of the direction of the spine bit.
But things would get boring if there were no controversy, right?
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scythemantis [2008-10-23 08:02:57 +0000 UTC]
Oh WOW, I've learned something completely new. A (potentially) legless mammal?! That's amazing, like a mammalian worm! How odd that no modern warm-blooded burrower is quite that adapted.
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NightXenon999 In reply to scythemantis [2015-05-17 17:19:14 +0000 UTC]
More like a mammalian caecilian or snake actually.
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Touch-Not-This-Cat [2008-06-25 23:47:34 +0000 UTC]
The closest mamilian analog to the snake?
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Sphenacodon In reply to Touch-Not-This-Cat [2008-06-26 04:40:11 +0000 UTC]
Perhaps, if it was indeed legless (a debatable point). However, it would have moved more like a caterpillar.
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Michelle56 [2008-04-25 21:57:40 +0000 UTC]
Aww ^_^
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avancna [2008-04-22 14:40:38 +0000 UTC]
Out of curiosity, what did you use as a reference?
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Sphenacodon In reply to avancna [2008-04-22 16:36:32 +0000 UTC]
There's next to nothing in terms of available papers on the internet and at my university. I got a couple on hedgehog taxonomy and various descriptions of the known bones. Bjork's (1975) Observations on the morphology of the hedgehog genus Proterix may have what I need, but I was unable to get it.
Otherwise there's this [link] and Proterix has an entry in the World Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs and Prehistoric Life, but otherwise, yeah, I need more references.
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Mokele In reply to Sphenacodon [2012-06-02 16:45:06 +0000 UTC]
Here's the link to Bjork: [link]
It's on page 91 onwards, and though it considers the possibility, it doesn't really go further than that.
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NTamura In reply to Sphenacodon [2008-04-22 17:30:04 +0000 UTC]
I've got the original Gawne's 1968 paper on Proterix if you are interested...
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Sphenacodon In reply to NTamura [2008-04-22 19:39:03 +0000 UTC]
I was able to find that one. You wouldn't happen to have Bjork's?
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NTamura In reply to Sphenacodon [2008-04-23 03:07:30 +0000 UTC]
Unfortunately no!
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avancna In reply to Sphenacodon [2008-04-22 16:44:09 +0000 UTC]
I got the encyclopedia this Saturday...
Already I'm greatly frustrated that they still say that Arsinoitherium had "hollow, conical" horns.
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Sphenacodon In reply to avancna [2008-04-22 19:38:33 +0000 UTC]
And Longisquama is a glider, and mustelids got misspelled mustellids, and Compsognathus lacks feathers...
But it's amazing value for money. Where else can you get Proterix, Tritemnodon, Aelurocyon, and 4 species of chalicothere?
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avancna In reply to Sphenacodon [2008-04-22 19:42:21 +0000 UTC]
True.
Still, what happens with Vegavis, stays with Vegavis
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thomastapir [2008-04-22 08:07:34 +0000 UTC]
This may sound like a trivial comment, but I love the dirt in this one! Did you use the Sponge filter for that porous effect? You get some really nice, rich tones in your paintings, I've noticed...The dirt and worm especially, here.
Wow, I don't think I've ever used the word "dirt" so much in an art critique.
: P
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nemo-ramjet [2008-04-22 07:37:53 +0000 UTC]
spineless and probably legless? what??? Is this really true, or speculative?
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avancna In reply to nemo-ramjet [2008-05-24 04:36:58 +0000 UTC]
Also, mind you, not all hedgehogs have prickles: Proterix is very close to the basal hedgehogs, but, is apparently a little closer to the moonrats, as with Deinogalerix.
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nemo-ramjet In reply to avancna [2008-06-10 00:06:54 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the tip my friend.
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avancna In reply to nemo-ramjet [2008-06-10 02:25:23 +0000 UTC]
When you're talking about hedgehogs, you have to get the point(s) across very clearly, otherwise, nothing will penetrate.
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Sphenacodon In reply to avancna [2011-01-05 23:08:33 +0000 UTC]
That helps when dealing with thorny problems.
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avancna In reply to Sphenacodon [2011-01-05 23:55:53 +0000 UTC]
I ain't echidna'ing you about that.
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Sphenacodon In reply to avancna [2011-03-14 18:35:51 +0000 UTC]
Let's celebrate with porcupints of beer!
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avancna In reply to nemo-ramjet [2008-04-22 14:00:52 +0000 UTC]
They suspect it was legless because the spine suggests that the pelvis was not fused to the lower vertebrae, as in other terrestrial vertebrates.
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Sphenacodon In reply to avancna [2008-04-22 16:38:20 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, I heard that no pelvis was found. Where's that from?
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avancna In reply to Sphenacodon [2008-04-22 16:43:03 +0000 UTC]
Me misremembering what I read in Dougal Dixon's latest encyclopedia.
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avancna In reply to Sphenacodon [2008-04-22 19:42:29 +0000 UTC]
*shakes fist*
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nemo-ramjet In reply to Sphenacodon [2008-04-22 13:24:41 +0000 UTC]
Wow... Imagine if it really was spineless, and we could see its babies. CUTE OVERLOAD!!! I also gather there's something weird about its skull?
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