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Published: 2010-03-02 21:14:11 +0000 UTC; Views: 15835; Favourites: 471; Downloads: 32
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As of Oct. 23, 2010, comments have been disabled, because it has once again devolved into the same old "YOU'RE A STUPID MEANIEHAD!" and "YEAH, BRO!", and it's getting repetitive to have a dozen comments I've heard a million times before every single time I sign in. Trust me, you're not going to bring anything new to the table.Either +fav it or move on.
To clarify: This isn't about feeling good about who you are. It's Pride, capital-P Pride, as in the context of Gay Pride, which is having small-P pride when society tells you that you're not supposed to be happy with who you are. It's okay to be happy with who you are, but think about it: if someone says "White Pride!" you're probably going to think of them as a racist idiot.
That's what this is about.
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Get back to me when you've been a second-class citizen because you're straight.
Get back to me when you've not been allowed to marry because you're straight.
Get back to me when you've been treated as sub-human because you're straight.
Get back to me when, by default, the media and everyone around you assumes that you're gay.
Get back to me when people say that your sexuality is not valid because you are straight.
Get back to me when people can scream "fucking breeder!" at you in the street because you dared to hold hands with the one you love.
Get back to me when countries and cultures decide that being straight is a crime punishable by death.
Get back to me when you can do that.
Until then?
Fuck your straight pride, because you don't need to have Pride. You've never had to fight because you are straight.
It's like a child asking their parents why they have a Mother's day and a Father's day, but no Children's Day, and his parents say that it's because every day is children's day.
You don't need to remind people that you have rights.
You don't need to fight to be treated like a human being.
Are you so fucking threatened by us being treated like real people that you see our pride that you have to take that pride away by trying to turn it into "oh, straight people have rights too!"? Sorry, nobody ever forgot that. Sorry, straight people aren't under-represented in the media.
Is it that fucking threatening that the instant we start getting rights, you start feeling like, because we might be equals, you start whining?
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I read this comment. To be honest, all I read was:
"BAAAAAAAW MY STRAIGHT SUPERIORITY IS THREATENED YOU BIG GAY MEANIEHEAD ):"
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Actually, if they don't have a reason to be proud of being straight, then gays don't have a reason to be proud of being gay. Why? Because it's sexuality. It's not an achievement you unlock for shooting enough dudes between the eyes. And it's not a badge of honor for not being shot to death.
It's who you love, who you're attracted to you. It's who you are. And while I think Straight Pride was made to be a punch to the Gay Pride, I think they're both simply expressions of being who you are. Maybe if gays would stop turning it into an object like obsession, then it would stop being MOCKED.
If you want to be treated like a REAL PERSON, then ACT LIKE ONE. Not some special snowflake because you like your own gender. Geeze.
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Gay pride doesn't have to be a huge banner you wave around. Is it often made into it? Yes.
But pride in the context of gay pride is being happy with who you are when society tells you not to be, not "LOOK AT ME I'm SO FUCKING SPECIAL BECAUSE I'M GAY".
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It maybe was once that way, but now, it IS a badge of "special". Because gay totally makes a person more unique. In fact, look at the new trend of people claiming to be bi, yet never following up on that claim. If everyone would act like humans, there wouldbe no issue with stupid "pride".
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If everyone were treated like humans, there wouldn't be a need for it.
I do agree that it has, by some people, been warped into a token of "LOOK AT MEEEEE", but do still firmly believe straight pride in return is ridiculous.
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Oh I think straight pride is ridiculous, but at the same time, I think Gay pride is too. Because it's objectifying something that SHOULD have more meaning than a badge you wear.
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I can agree wholeheartedly on the count that it's turned into a badge to make people feel special; but the original intent behind it is good, at least.
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AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAH *died*
I love you, Gaylord Focker.
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I LOVE YOU TOO MUCH. >:c
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I'm proud to be straight because it means I naturally have the desire to reproduce.
And it pisses people off who don't think I have the right to be proud.
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You can be proud of who you are, but capital-P pride, as in Gay Pride, isn't the same of "I'm proud to be me!". Capital-P Pride is saying that you've got lower-case-P pride in who you are when society at large tells you that it's wrong to be as such. Society at large does not tell straight people that it's wrong to be straight-- if you think it does, explain why almost every mainstream piece of fiction, music, and advertisement assumes that the audience is straight.
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why dont you just broaden the spectrum to 'you have no right to live because youre a jew.'
or 'you have no right to be free because youre black.'
they didnt have to fight for any of that until someone imposed themselves on them.
congratulations.
you might be that same imposer one day.
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'Second-class citizen'?
Give me a break.
Get back to me if you're black and were growing up post-Civil War years, or if you were Jewish and living under Hitler's reign.
What a joke.
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Let's play oppression Olympics, kids!
Or you know. Not, because just because it could be worse doesn't mean it can't be better.
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That's the point. It could be worse. And you're making a mockery of those who actual have suffered.
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It implies that having issue with anything necessarily negates the ability to care about anything else. A broken arm may not be much compared to being run over by a tank, but that doesn't mean you can say "You're making a mockery of people who are being run over by tanks by saying your broken arm hurts! Give me a break!" when they say it hurts. It may not be a holocaust level, but when of people are still being killed and discriminated against, just the fact that it's not as bad as it could be doesn't negate the fact that it's still not good.
The most extreme discrimination possible is not the only discrimination.
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Then straight pride is no more a joke than gay pride. Straight people get discriminated against all the time, from their hair to their clothes, to their upbringing to their sex, to even just existing.
But in lieu of people using bisexuality/pansexuality/asexuality as a damn fashion statement these days, I can absolutely understand straight people going, "proud to be straight". It's calling bullshit on the idiots who think they're gay/bisexual when they're really not.
I support Straight Pride for that fact alone.
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Straight people get discriminated against all the time, from their hair to their clothes, to their upbringing to their sex, to even just existing.
Find me one instance of mainstream society bashing straight people for being straight. Not a fringe weirdo-- a mainstream, listened-to source. A couple of fringe instances does not widespread heterophobia make.
On the people who fake alternate sexualities to appear cooler thing however, I readily agree. There's nothing inherently better nor worse about any sexuality. However, I draw a distinction between pride (here as in "pride" with a small P, just for sake of differentiaton) and Pride.
Small-p pride is feeling happy about who you are, and everyone should have said pride. Capital-P Pride, however, is about being happy about who you are when society on the whole or in the majority says that it is wrong. Straight people absolutely dominate the media-- a few instances of fringe wackos who scream about "breeders" does not mean oppression -- and as such, do not need to have Pride.
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Last sentence had a word omitted.
>> Was it the media that hates you all so much?
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All people are bullied, many of them unrelentingly, for all reasons by society. Unless you're rich, beautiful, and as intelligent as Hawking you will be bullied by other people all your life.
Straight people are in media more than gays because straights outnumber gays.
Shouldn't the first form of pride, the capitalized version, be the only one that matters? If you are happy about who you are, what do you need the other Pride for? Shouldn't it not matter what others say about you if you are happy with who you are?
I will not deny that being gay makes it more likely that someone will bully you, but you why do you feel it necessary to inform them?
Straight People don't walk around saying "LOL IM STRAIGHT" but gay people will walk around saying "LOL IM GAY" when they know that there are groups of people who intensely dislike them. Makes no sense.
What goes on in your bedroom, what your preference is, is nobody's business but your own. Let them assume you are straight, it doesn't matter. HEY EVERYONE IM GAY LOL! <- Asking for it.
And, another thing, the media that you're complaining about? Both old media and new media? What is the news? What is a blog? What is youtube? What is deviantART's news system? Isn't that media? Newspapers? Media. Guess what blows six suicides out of proportion because the 'victims' were gay, but ignores the statistical other 2500 that happened last month because they weren't?
Was it the media that hates you all so
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Pride versus pride is a movement. Just having lower-case-P pride? It should be the only one we need, but Pride is required because we're still being told we shouldn't have lower-case P pride. Being happy with who you are when they say you can't be is a slap to the face that needs to be thrown to people who deny the right to exist. The best way to piss your enemies off is to be happy for what they hate you for.
You don't need to say that you're gay to be bullied, you only need to be percieved as such.
Straight People don't walk around saying "LOL IM STRAIGHT"
But they can kiss, hold hands, and hug in public without being in danger for it. They can marry. They are universally accepted as valid.
You don't need to wave a banner to be parading it around. It's called privilege. Check it sometime.
Re: the media
Do you know what? I'd rather the media didn't have to do that, because it shouldn't have to be a big deal. When you make a big deal out of something, you get people thinking it's out of the ordinary and special that they were gay. If we could have focused it on preventing suicide and bullying, period that'd be great... but they were singled out as newsworthy because they were gay.
Preventing suicide is a big deal, regardless of the issue of gay pride. If people only wear purple or do shit, like deviantArt does, and if they only care about those six suicides, never caring about it any other day of the year, they're idiots, period, whether they cover themselves in gay pride paraphernalia or are the straightest people ever to walk the earth.
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Your logic is worthy of the gods.
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So are you.
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Oh, so bullying of straight kids, or bullying in general, is no where near as important or cruel as bullying of gay kids? Especially if it doesn't get mass media attention, right? God forbid that.
For someone who claims they're treated so unfairly 'cause of their sexuality, you just agreed that people PURPOSELY fake their sexualities for ones that are supposedly 'hated/feared/frowned upon' in society.
But you know what I keep seeing the most? You bitching about how straight people are more popular than gay people. Seriously? That's why you're being so ignorant? CUZ STRAIT PPL HAV MOAR CHIK FLIKS?
You're are being fucking ridiculous with this sense that you're fucking entitled to sympathy and understanding, 'cause we just don't get you if we're straight, right? Funny how my boyfriend thinks you're being fucking stupid, too, and he's fucked and been in relationships with more guys than I have, and I've been around longer than him.
I'm Proud ... to be straight in that I don't have to claim I'm a certain sexuality to be seen as 'cool' or to be accepted among a crowd. That's no more me saying I'm proud to be myself than you are when you say you're proud to be gay.
You are not a fucking second-class citizen beyond not getting married under God, and that is a shit reason to feel 'second-classed' to begin with. Marriage lost it's meaning a long ass time ago, and is now just a past time for people and an easy means for cheaper living expenses, in which will mostly end up in divorce anyway. You can get the same damn rights without being a butthurt idiot, expecting a religion that doesn't even support your sexuality to begin with, to allow you to MARRY in their name, too.
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You certainly do love putting words into my mouth and missing the point! Moving the goalposts, much?
Yes, because people say "that fucking breeder deserved to die" when a straight person commits suicide. Being gay, some people still see as automatically removing your humanity or right to life. There are people who want to see the human rights of homosexuals taken away, and they are given serious weight and consideration. If it's even considerable that my rights can be voted away, then no, I'm not equal and society still tells me it's wrong to be gay.
People who fake their sexualities do it so they look "cool" or "edgy". If it wasn't considered edgy or subversive, kids wouldn't do it.
Funny how my boyfriend thinks you're being fucking stupid, too, and he's fucked and been in relationships with more guys than I have, and I've been around longer than him.
OH NO, SOMEONE WHO IS OBVIOUSLY INCLINED TO AGREE WITH YOU DISAGREES WITH ME! ALL GAY PEOPLE MUST AGREE WITH ME!!!
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Seriously, is that what you expect me to think? Seriously? So a guy disagrees with me. Big fucking deal. It does not make my argument any less valid.
Again: if my rights can be voted away, I am not equal. My rights to marry are less than a straight person's, and therefore, I am second class.
You can get the same damn rights without being a butthurt idiot, expecting a religion that doesn't even support your sexuality to begin with, to allow you to MARRY in their name, too.
Marriage is the duty of the state, not the church. People use the church to sanctify their marriage in their religion, but it is not required. If I want to get married under the law, with no religion at all (and it would not) I cannot. There are lists of benefits you can find showing the legal differences between civil unions and legally-recognized marriages. lern2marriagelaw
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Why don't we all just say that opinions are opinions and go with that?
Sure, you can agree and disagree with things. That's being human. But people don't have to fight about it.
I personally have no problem with gay people. Gay people are usually awesome actually. I start having problems when gay people shove their ways in my face. It's starting to get as bad as religions. @.@
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Wow... you can be proud without being discriminated against. Like I'm a proud gamer, and no one is killed over that fact. Chill out will ya.
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That's not what pride in the terms of gay pride is.
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Pride is being joyful in something you are, do, or believe. Gay pride is just the same, it is having pride in being a homosexual.
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-__- and yet many people are proud of being straight and "more holier than thou" and that just sickens me.
I'm not gay, but I can still empathize with this in a way.
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Gay pride is just as much as a joke as straight pride is. Nobody gives a flying rats ass if you are gay, just live life the way you want to and stop acting like a flaunting jackass.
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Sure straight people are under represented in the media. I can not even send my children to school without the gay agenda getting shoved in their faces. I am ok with "live and let live" But not with "We are here you have to like it or your a bad person." I don't try to teach your kids anything different than what you want to teach them. Don't try to teach mine different than what I want to teach them. If we can come to that understanding I don't care what you do.
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Sure straight people are under represented in the media.
Which is why almost every single commercial, movie, TV show, and book depicts straight people, and anything that doesn't tends to be regarded as CONTROVERSIAL and SHOCKING, and why teaching kids to be hateful and homophobic is still considered okay.
Whoops. Yeah, sorry, you're really being underrepresented there. |:
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If I get upset about a gay group in my childs school pushing the gay agenda onto my impressionable children guess who is the villain in the media. That is what I am talking about. I think there are plenty of gays on TV for how many gays there are. You even have your own network. For a group thats only 1 in 40 people thats pretty damn good.
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I just love how the straight priders who whine and say "BAWW, gays can be proud so we have the right to be proud too" are against gay marriage. If heteros can have pride, why can't gays have marriage?
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gay pride is a joke.
your just a little ignorant baby who wants something all to themselves.
if your proud of being disgusting then I can be proud of not being disgusting.
then again, I'm not proud of being normal. It's just something I am.
straight.
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oh wow, way to be a loving christian...
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I should have known you were just a christfag, enjoy being a deluded sheep.
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and you say I'm the intolerant one? :]
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That's what the stamp maker is saying, silleh.
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Well... Dah forget it.
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I think ALL pride sucks. Including straight and gay pride.
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I AGREE WITH YOU!!!
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