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Don't shake that hand! Jack Nicholson's Joker from the Michael Keaton Batman (1989) by Tim Burton from the Burtonverse Earth in the DC Multiverse meets Cesar Romero's Joker from the Silver Age Adam West Batman (1966-1968) television show by William Dozier and Batman (1966) comedy movie by William Dozier from the Dozierverse Parallel Earth in the DC Multiverse.
Cesar Romero didn't like Jack Nicholson's Joker. Cesar Romero felt Nicholson’s Joker was too evil, too revolting and too violent. Romero ranted, "This picture is dreary. The violence in it - good God. And Nicholson is just so violent. This is a very serious, heavy crime drama, not the Batman [1966] concept at all. What we did was fun. It was a spoof. It was a [live-action cartoon] comic strip. I thoroughly enjoyed playing the Joker. It was great fun." apnews.com/article/32a989bf36b…
Before he saw the Batman (1989) movie, in Starlog #146 (1989) Cesar Romero admitted that "A third episode was about to be filmed with a villain named the Joker, and he [William Dozier] wanted me for that part. I had never read the comic and didn't even know who Batman was. Before I gave him my answer, Dozier suggested I come down to the studio and see Gorshin's episode and get an idea what Batman was all about. I saw the episode, thought it was great, and when I read the script, I said to myself, 'Yeah, I'll do this!' We all had great fun. I understand the movie is completely different in tone from our show, and different from the things we use to do. It's suppose to be much more serious, and less campy. I don't know what 'more serious' means in this case. Jack Nicholson plays the Joker. I don't know what they've done to the Batman story, but I know they've eliminated Robin. No more Boy Wonder!"
Jack Nicholson's Joker from 1989 is generation Xers Joker and representing the most authentic Golden Age original Greatest generation era comics Joker from Batman #1 (1940) "The Joker" written by Bill Finger, art by Bob Kane and Jerry Robinson, editorial by Whitney Ellsworth, reprinted in Batman: The Dark Knight Archives volume 1 (1992), to Detective Comics #62 (1942) "Laugh, Clown, Laugh" written Bill Finger, art by Bob Kane, Jerry Robinson and George Roussos, editorial by Whitney Ellsworth and Mort Weisinger, reprinted by Batman Chronicles volume 6 (2008) - the serial killer-clown Joker. Batman #251 (1973) "The Joker's Five-Way Revenge" written by Denny O'Neil, art by Neal Adams, editorial by Julius Schwartz, reprinted in Batman Illustrated by Neal Adams volume 3 (2005), brought back the Golden Age killer-clown Joker with the chemical weapon we know as "Smylex," and Detective Comics #475 (1978) "The Laughing Fish" written by Steve Englehart, art by Marshall Rogers and Terry Austin inked, reprinted in Batman: Strange Apparitions (1999), brought back the Golden Age Joker's hat, as Jack Nicholson's Joker wore. Of course Jack Nicholson's Joker was directly brought into comics in Batman: The Official Comic Adaption (1989) written by Sam Hamm, Warren Skaaren and Denny O'Neil, art by Jerry Ordway. That Golden Age retro style Joker lasted in the regular comics until Batman: Shadow of the Bat #38 (1995) cover by Brian Stelfreeze (After that DC have screwed around with big hair, big eyes, exaggerated anime capitalizing Joker makeovers in comics by Jeph Leob and Jim Lee (Batman #614 (2003) "Hush Chapter Seven The Joke"), etc. and grotesque Joker makeovers and reboots in comics by Grant Morrison and Tony Daniel (Batman #680 (2008) "Batman R.I.P.: The Thin White Duke of Death" (David Bowie gag) cut up face) and Tony Daniel solo (Detective Comics #1 (2011) "Faces of Death" cut off face) repulsive).
Cesar Romero's Joker from 1966 is the Baby Boomers generations Joker and the most authentic to the Silver Age Baby Boomers generations era comics Joker from the '50s and '60s while satirizing it in the 1966 parody comedy show and movie. Cesar Romero's Joker never killed anybody. The Joker from Detective Comics #64 (1942) "The Joker Walks the Last Mile" writing chores by Bill Finger, art chores by Bob Kane, Jerry Robinson and George Roussos, editorial dictation enforced by Whitney Ellsworth and Mort Weisinger, reprinted by Batman Chronicles volume 6 (2008), to Detective Comics #388 (1969) "Public Luna-Tic Number One" written by John Broome, art chores by Bob Brown and Joe Giella, editorial dictation by Julius Schwartz, reprinted in Showcase Presents Batman volume 4 (2009) never killed anybody. Cesar Romero's Joker was brought directly into the comics in Batman '66 #7 (2013) "The Joker Sees Red" and Batman '66 #8 (2013) "Batman Hunts the Dead" written by Jeff Parker and art by Joe Quinones, etc.
Jack Nicholson's serial killer-clown Joker claims "One thing I am not is a killer! I am an artist! Nobody wants a war! We'll just shake hands! Who do you trust? Me? I'm giving away free money! Come on! Have a little whiff of my posy! Try some of my products with my secret ingredient-Smylex! Put on a happy face! If you've gotta go, go with a smile!"
Cesar Romero's Joker says, "Ew! That's terrible! —eh, I do the jokes around here! *screams*"
Jack Nicholson's Joker offers to shake hands with Cesar Romero's mustached clown Joker. Jack Nicholson Joker's offers to shake hands are not a sign of friendship. Even Jack Nicholson Joker's willingness to shake hands is an attempted murder. Notice Jack Nicholson Joker's ring. The other side of his ring is a lethal high voltage joy-buzzer handy for frying victims to a crisp corpse - sending 40,000 volts of electricity coursing through a victim. Jack Nicholson's Joker also offers Cesar's Joker to smell his posy. His phooey posy squirts acid (handy for disfiguring girlfriends and opponents and dissolving handcuffs or dissolving the holding pins on the giant bell of the cathedral bell tower to plummet down from the tower and block the entrance), or to try his "Smylex" products....poisoned with a chemical weapon developed from discontinued nerve gas mix of nitrous oxide laughing gas and strychnine and VX DDID nerve gas poison which causes victims to laugh, spasms and contracts victims cheek muscles, causes paralysis to the victims muscles and kills the victims by asphyxia. He also has balloons filled with "Smylex." Jack Nicholson Joker's goal is killing as many people as he can in "artful" creative ways.
Cesar Romero's burglar clown Joker mainly uses harmless practical joke items, party items, holiday 4th of July fireworks items from the Ferguson Novelty and Magicians Supply Company in his sunny Gotham City, including harmless colorful fireworks smoke bombs. Sneezing powder. Confetti. A harmless joy-buzzer that gives people a harmless shock. Harmless balloons with signs that say "Phooey on Batman, Poor Boy Wonder, Hooray for the Joker." "Paralyzing" gas to render a person harmlessly unconscious for hours, also called knock out gas. A phooey flower that shoots out harmless water, sometimes harmless powder, sometimes harmless knock out gas. A harmless firecracker-like exploding cigar novelty joke. Guns that shoot harmless confetti. A magnet that lifts jewels. A "funny ray" that neutralizes the gadgets in Adam West Batman's utility belt and Burt Ward Robin's utility belt. "Dream pills" that are slipped into drinks to make the drinker sleep. Cesar Romero's Joker also deliberately leaves clues for Adam West's Batman to figure out what next robbery he will commit to help Adam West's Batman try and stop his burglaries, as if he wants to get caught.
Cesar Romero's Joker never killed anybody, but did play match of wits challenges with Adam West's Batman to save himself and others from traps that were potentially deadly. Like to have a henchgirl Donna Loren's Susie poisoned with a bottle of poison that he told her was perfume in "He Meets His Match, the Grisly Ghoul" (1966 season 1 episode) and of course Adam West's Batman saved her with an antidote, and Cesar Romero's Joker challenged Adam West's Batman and Burt Ward's Robin with various potentially deadly traps to escape from (Electric chairs trap connected to a casino slot machine, with the claim that if three lemons come up on the slot machine then "50,000 volts of electrifying electricity" will be sent through the electric chairs. Deadly gas trap. "Human key duplicator" and "wax spray chamber" machines trap, which he said would "skeletonize" Adam West's Batman and turn Burt Ward's Robin "into a human wax sculpture." A giant clam in a shallow pool trap. A comic book printing press trap to flatten Burt Ward's Robin. Adam West's Bruce Wayne tied to a chair trap and Burt Ward's Robin tied to a revolving mobile easel trap with sharp painting pallets. Poisonous sea urchin spines and hardened foam and catalyzed rosin trap, threatening to turn Adam West's Batman and Burt Ward's Robin into surfboards. "Cat's whiskers" wires contraction trap), but always giving them a sporting chance to escape, so they always escaped from those traps. And this is telling, in "Batman Sets the Pace" (1966 season 1 episode) when Cesar Romero's Joker thinks Adam West's Batman and Burt Ward's Robin have died in the deadly gas trap, Cesar Romero's Joker says "We must shut off the poisonous gas and pump it out, some passer by might get killed." Cesar Romero's Joker doesn't really want people killed. Cesar Romero Joker's goal is stealing money and jewels and playing a match of wits challenges with Adam West's Batman.
This idea was inspired by joshvirgin.deviantart.com/ asking me "Have you ever considered having a pic of Cesar Romero Joker meeting Jack Nicholson Joker like you did with their respective Batmen? (Adam West and Michael Keaton)"
I replied "That's a great idea! I now have an idea for it. It could be Jack Nicholson's Joker trying to pull his deadly hand shake trick on Cesar Romero's Joker gasping, in horror and distaste and backing away."
In Comics Scene #14 (1989) Warren Skaaren said, "I had the notion that we should make him [the Joker] like Frederich Nietzsche. You drop him in the drink and he comes out. I came up with the line where he says, 'I've been dead once. It's very liberating' [which echoes Nietzsche's quote, 'That which does not kill you makes you stronger.'] The whole idea of Bruce Wayne's parents deaths. I created that whole scene [in the script], as well as the fact that he [the Joker] killed the parents. I did that because psychologically, the Joker and Batman create each other. All good hero/villain matches, have some deeply personal connection, and what more permanent violence could you do to someone than kill his parents? You've made an enemy for life. I like that. At the same time, I wanted to deal with the real history in the comic books, that his parents were murdered in front of him. He doesn't know what it is, but it starts to affect him because his unconscious knows before his conscious mind does that this guy killed his parents. Batman has a much more complected life than the Joker, because he has many obstacles in his way, where all the Joker wants to do his blast through. Bruce Wayne is relatively secure in life, while the Joker has nothing to lose, so he goes after stuff. We decided that Michael Keaton should take the quiet, more thoughtful road. The concept I had was that Alfred is a father figure for Batman, so he tries to talk Batman into engaging in this relationship with Vicki. He says at one point, 'I'm getting too old to morn the loss of old friends...or their sons.' That line indicates that Alfred getting to be an older guy, and he's afraid that Batman - that Bruce Wayne - is going to be hurt, so he wants Batman to become more healthy. Part of that would be to accept this relationship with Vicki. So, Alfred's in cahoots with Vicki. He brings her into the Batcave because he wants Bruce to be with her."
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Jack Nichiolson's Joker was based on The Man Who Laughs (1928), with similarities to One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (1975), The Third Man (1949), A Clockwork Orange (1971), Patton (1970), and even a bit like Cesar Romero's Joker destroying art in "Pop Goes the Joker" [season 2, 1966] .
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I'm just imagining both of their buzzers explosing when making contact with each other
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Thanks awfully. Nice to see these crime clowns together.
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Was fun to make this.
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Very much so, from what I can see.
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And I'm getting ideas about making more with this concept. Maybe of Jack Nicholson's Joker meeting the modern trendy Joker fads - Jared Leto's Joker, and maybe one with Heathcliff Ledger's Joker, and I could even make one with Cameron Monaghan's Jerome Valeska Joker from that Gotham TV show. I'm not a fan of all of them but it could be interesting and funny to make them meeting classic Jack Nicholson Joker.
I'm gonna make one of Danny DeVito's Penguin meeting Burgess Meredith's Penguin. I could do anther one with Robin Taylor's Penguin from that Gotham TV show.
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Those would be cool. I like Jared's Joker a little bit. Do you plan to maybe have Jack meet Mark Hamil Joker someday?
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I have the feeling Jack doesn't like him.
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I don't think he likes any other Joker's. He's been very competitive about the Joker role and said he was furious that Ledger was cast because Jack had wanted his Joker to return but he never got to do any sequels in the '90s, he said Warner Brothers were hung up on him appearing to have died in the first movie, plus in the '90s Warner Brothers thought Tim Burton was too dark, but Jared's is closer to Jack's and the comics in some ways, like the vat of chemicals, than Ledger's was, and Jack did wear a outfit like that as a mime disguise www.customminifig.co.uk/wp-con… so I think the "Nice outfit" quote would be something he would really say to Jared, while at the same time I think he'd pull his gun on him.
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I didn't think about that because Mark Hamill's Joker in Batman: The Animated Series was sort of like a cartoon spin-off of Jack Nicholson's Joker anyway in a lot of ways, just having to dilute the rougher darker edges though, so just none of the bloodshed, killings, language, so I think that would be sort of like Jack's Joker meeting himself in cartoon form, kinda, but maybe there is a way that could make sense, I don't know, maybe as a fun house mirror reflection. That could be cool.
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