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i have a libertarian group here:Β liberland3rs.deviantart.com
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I get that libertarians want a hands off government but how far dose that go exactly? Like are we talking no laws? I mean that's not something to be vague about.
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Night watchman state. The fed only exists to protect citizens from fraud, violence and foreign aggression and invasion.
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Alone with unregulated capitalists who would pretty much be the rulers of society.
Yeah because living in smog near a flammable river working for a racist who's legally allowed to pay me less because he doesn't like the color of my skin sounds so appealing.
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Lol! Be afraid! They might let people live their lives without interference.
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It's the impression I get from some Libertarians. It generally feels like, "I got mine, so f**k off and die, parasite! I'm in it for ME!" I feel that sometimes, people take advantage of the system and screw others over.
I'm not that great at explaining or arguing ideology. I mainly argue w/ Neo-Confederates.
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Whether or not some libertarians or people are dicks, is beside the point, many libertarians are good people who love, laugh, donate to charity, and all that good stuff; the difference is, we say that the government has no right to make anybody, and we mean anybody, not be a dick. As long as you are not hurting others through your actions the do what you want, just donβt come to us when those actions have put you in dire straits.
To force people to bail out others against their will through gunpoint is unethical at it very foundation.
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Who's at gunpoint?
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stop paying your taxes and see what happens
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"You join the Wagon Train, you gotta do Night Watch", as I like to say. I get the benefits of civilization. A lot to gain, and little to lose. My taxes are spent on things for my benefit (roads, military, public transportation), so I don't care.
I'm an altruist, so as much as we try, our ideaologies are incompatible.
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As an extension of what he said, it's not like Libertarians would completely do away with all forms of infrastructure and leadership. That's a stereotype which more accurately describes the most basic forms of Anarchy.
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It just seems like they would do away with everything, even the good stuff like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
To be honest, I'm not that good at arguing ideology.
If you're a nice Libertarian, props to you. Just some take it a bit far (and those people are the ones who get their own shows).
Also, that discussion I had with TheBeatDandy was 9 months ago. That train of thought has been lost to time.
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Well, to be fair, those three things you mentioned are pretty controversial. Wouldn't be fair to call them completely 'good' things.
Well all righty then, nice day to ya.
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Yeah but the thing is we (libertarians) didnβt join the wagon train, we were either born on it, or brought along without being fully informed of what was going on
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EXACTLY! You put that so much better than most libertarians usually do!
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Le gasp!
What will we do without our glorious PAP guiding us, especially since they guided us soooo well in terms of social matters.
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Iβve actually heard people refer to libertarians as fascists, which is laughable, since fascists want big government, and libertarians want limited government. You might as well say communists are capitalists, or atheists are Christians. Thatβs pretty much the same thing!
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BUT WHAT WILL WE DO IF NOBODY TELLS US WHAT TO DO?
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Ssh, attackwatch is watching!
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