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THIS IS SUBJECT AND MOST LIKELY TO CHANGE AFTER I'VE PLAYED DRAGON AGE 2The closer we get to DA2's release, the more I like playing around with the fact Hawke and Amell!Warden are related somehow, since Legam is my main canon Warden. This family tree is making a lot of assumptions on my part, including assuming Hawke and Amell are first cousins. And that only half the Amell tree apparently has a thing for marrying into Rivaini families, so that Legam's heritage makes more sense without me having to make Hawke mostly Rivaini too.
I kept Hawke's family close to how they appear as the defaults, with some tweaks. His father I based on Default Hawke's hair as a bit of a homage.
However the family tree ends up, this does retcon my Legam backstory, Laurel Leaves - so that's now alternate universe instead of my "official" head!canon. How far I have to tweak it, I don't know yet. We'll see how much DA2 reveals on that front. Not much, I'm betting - I'll probably have a lot of room to work with.
Once I've played through as Declan at least once and learned more about the other branches of the Amell family, I'll either update this sketch or make a new, more up-to-date family tree. Possibly more elaborate and fancy than this one.
As far as I know, Hawke's father hasn't been publically named by the Bioware devs, so he remains "Papa Hawke" for now.
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Hawke's father is named Malcom. I'd mention Revka as well, but it was already established in the comments.
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Ah, no Gamlen...Oh well!
And yes, Hawke and Amell in Origins are actually related. Talking with Leandra if you had the Amell as your warden in your story, she will at some point mention how you are related to the Hero of Fereldan, cousins or something like that if I don't remember wrong.
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Second cousins, if I recall. Amell Warden was the child of Leandra's cousin. So Hawke and Legam would be one step further away than I theorized here, though I have yet to do an updated version of this. Eventually, probably next time I'm on a DA kick and play it again.
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Plaaaaaay it. Come oooon. Lol, now I'm just jerking ya around. I'm having to much fun playing both DA origins and DA2...I just wish I had awakening already XP
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I've beaten DA2 about... six times since it came out, not counting my two halfway plays. Love the game, need a break to play/do other stuff.
I've played Origins about 11 times and Awakening twice, I think. Good series, love it. Just taking time now to enjoy other stuff too.
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Beaten DA2 about...7 times? currently trying to see if I can't get Carver's friendship before I go to the deep roads...I hate acting like a templar dog though *pouts*
I only played through Origins 2 times and beat the Archdemon. I only finished the mage beginning and city elf so far.
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I preordered the game like... 4 or so months before it came out, bought it day 1. I freelance so I set my own hours, so I had plenty of time to play it about 3 times within the first week it came out.
About the same for Origins, except that came out right before I got my diploma, so I had to play that in between final projects and homework. Still beat it in the month it came out and I graduated about 5-6 times. The rest was throughout the rest of the next year. Done all the origins (save an elf mage; only did a human mage) all the way through at least one. Human mage male is my main, and the first one I imported into DA2.
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I think I got my game about...hmm...3 months ago for DA2 and 1 and a half since I got Origins. Plus I been swamped with work.
I have to say, DA2 is MUCH easier then Origins. I can play DA2 on hard mode and pretty much just let the other companions kill everything LOL. While on Origins its all 'AAAAAH! I GOTTA KILL THIS BOSS, FUDGENUGGETS! ZEVRAN, BARKSPAWN AND WYNNE JUST PASSED OUT! D82' ...you notice pretty quickly if I'm playing or not, I start cursing >.>; As it is for imported ones. I downloaded someonthing from Nexsus called Gibbed I think. I can create my endings there and import it to DA2. Its not as fun but for now it shall have to do until I get around with all genders in all possible endings.
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I'm a long-time Bioware fan, so I'd been following Dragon Age: Origins pretty much since it was first announced in like... 2004 or so.
I play all games on easy/casual, or normal if there's no easy. My focus is the story and characters, and while I enjoy the combat, it's not my primary focus and since I'm not very good at tactic (not good at dividing my attention beyond like... 2 things in battle), I find higher difficulties just frustrating, not fun.
On easy mode, I'd rate them about the same in difficulty, with Origins *maybe* a little more difficult due to the slowed-down combat that sometimes fudges up your actions from what you're trying to do.
I didn't have Gibbed, but I did have some sort of save game generator. I played on the Xbox the first few months before I was able to play on the PC, and by the time DA2 came out, I didn't want to replay Origins again just to have my first Warden, a Dalish ranger, ready for importing on the PC. So I used a save generator to duplicate what he did on the Xbox. My others were played on the PC and ready for import on their own, though.
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Ahahaha, well done ^^
I raised the difficulty level on DA2 for my own amusment. It felt a bit dull when I could go to the bathroom and come back to see I won >.>;
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Well, that's the nice thing about a difficulty slider; it allows for more options for different styles of play. Some people have more fun with a challenge, some people like me aren't good at it and find it frustrating. I prefer games with a scaling difficulty like that, even if I personally stick to the lower ones. Makes them more accessible to different players, you know?
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Yep! Personally, I play Origins on the easy for the plotline. DA2 is easy to follow the plot line and therefor I raised the difficulity after playing through a few times.
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Makes sense. 
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I do too...if I don't die while playing bulldozer >w>
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That's the nice thing about easy. I don't really die while bulldozing. 
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XD I try to attract as little attention as possible in the start and draw the more difficult ones in a BIT later then the common masses XD
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I do stuff like AOE attacks when enemies are clustered, or using my rogues to backstab all the smaller guys first, which usually takes them out with one, maybe two hits. That means I can focus on the harder-hitters without the smaller ones ebbing away at my team's HP.
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Strategi! Something I lack!
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My eyes are now fixed on the HP bars and I always have someone with me that at least has basic knowledge of herbalisme 
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Yeah, I always had Wynne or my mage (if I was playing him) max out herbalism. And I hoarded elfroots.
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Ah yes, I learned to do that...and then I got to the Archdemon with my city elf, no Wynne with me and I ran out of healing potions for the most part...that was fun >.>
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The Archdemon's a HUGE pain, even on easy, on the Xbox. Still annoying on the PC, but after having to deal with it on the Xbox 2-3 times, the PC was a cakewalk. But yeah, I made sure to have Wynne with me but with limited potions on the console, that was a major fest of frustration.
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Heh, I figured out to use those...bastillions? I put my whole group on hold far away from the battle and steelthed my way through the whole thing when I used my city elf rogue. It was fun, keeping everyone else off my tail while I smashed the archdemon that way
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Yeah, there was literally no way I was able to beat him on the Xbox without using those bastillions. And on the Xbox on easy, they didn't break/get stuck, so that helped some. On the PC, I still used them some, but found I could usually go without 'em too. By then I had tons of potions. I think by my 8th or so play, I didn't even need to bring Wynne.
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Ahahaha, it was fun actually once you got over getting angry at the archdemon and orc-I mean, darkspawns for killing me *coughes* XD
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Reminds me of a caption I made last year: [link]
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XD Ahahaha, well, they had to realize the implication when they named a crucial stand Ostgar XD I mean...WTH
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Funny thing is, while LoTR has some influence on Dragon Age and its setting, they drew most of their inspiration from other dark fantasies like A Song of Ice and Fire and Wheel of Time. My brother and a friend are HUGE WoT fans and they're always pointing out similarities between the settings, especially in things like the mage's circle, or the darkspawn/the Blight.
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Ahahaha, yes. I like Wheel of Time too ^^
Personally, I can see some similiarities in the Circles but not that much that I REALLY notice it because its not like every mage gets their own personal guard/templar. But that is a fun concept honestly....they should have done that instead >.>
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Well, there's a difference between influenced by something and directly ripping it off.
Ah, the Circle/mage-templar debate is a whole 'nother can of worms.
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To true, to true.
Oh yes. It would be quite fine for me if it weren't for all the obvious templar sided abuses...I would personally go bonkers locked in a tower without being allowed out to feel the rain on my face or anything. >.>
But with that kind of power, you do need to be watched, cause seriously, who knows what you might do! Hmmm...there is no seluction D8
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My personal take that the mages are *too* controlled, but they do need some overseeing, as you say. Best solution I can think of is some sort of registry, and you get checked on regularly - say once a month or so - by the Templars, and as long as you haven't been shown to violate any laws or perform intentionally dangerous magic (self-defense notwithstanding), you go on your merry way. You're otherwise allowed all other personal freedoms, and so long as you're a responsible member of society, you shouldn't locked away.
Something along those lines, anyway.
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I can agree to them but I'd actually go with a personal templar that gets changed out about once a week or month so there wont be to much affection between the mage and the templar or abuse from the templar side.
And that Knight commander and First enchanter checks on the 'pair' to make sure of both things. Because it does put it into question if they become involved with each other if the templar will do his duty and all.
Either way, freedom for the mages! Personal and emotional!
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I find that too constraining for the mage's personal freedom. I wouldn't want someone breathing down my neck all the time, though it's preferable to a practical prison like they have now.
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Excatly. While its not ideal its the only selution I can see work since people in the game are so scared of the mages and I can understand why they are scared. But the thing is, mages are people, emotions, thoughts and all. There is no way the common 'mob' mentality would allow the mages full freedom and especially not to let them all gather up like that in groups in towers where they do who knows what.
However you turn the coin, there is no pleasing anyone fully.
But then again, it hardly matters anymore as we saw after DA2. The circles AND the templars are rebelling >.>
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I think there are other solutions that could work, but yes - the mob mentality/fear of mages would be something to overcome, regardless.
Of course they are. It's a dysfunctional system that has caused great problems with both parties. We'll see how things go in the future; will be interesting.
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Oh, I concur, I concur.
It will be interesting what they come up with in DA3. I heard rumors that they aren't even going to stay in the Free marches for the game. A pity, I wanted to see Starkhaven but oh well XD
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I wouldn't mind seeing other parts of the Free Marches eventually, but I would prefer seeing other places in Thedas other than Ferelden and directly-north-of-Ferelden. I like that the Dragon Age series is about the world more so than one protagonist, and look forward to new places and new heroes with each installment.
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That is true, I like that. I just wish I had Awakenings too because I can't seem to find that game anywhere around here. That sucks.
But yes, I'd like to see more to. I just wanted to hear all the accents from Starkhaven again XD I mean really, scottish much? I do like the scottish accent...I bet one that lives there has a stronger one....oh, I'm purring~
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Ah that's right, you're in Norway, aren't you? There's no version available online that you can order, or a digital copy you can purchase and download?
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Yep, up far in norway. As for online purchase...I have no idea, I haven't found any so far.
Heeeeeh. I do norwigians accents, cause we have many, many,many. But I like most accents, they sound cute to me.
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Well, I mean, there's stuff like this: [link] But I don't know since it's made for the North American market if it being in English is an issue (I mean, you're obviously fluent, but I have no idea if you play the games in English or not out of a personal preference), or what the international shipping would cost. I see Awakening around here all the time, but I live in the States.
I mostly have experience with British Isles accents, some Canadian, and predominately American - especially eastern seaboard accents like upstate New York vs. New York City accents, or various Southern dialects; they get stereotyped as one general "hick" accent, but really, there's a whole lot of variation from state to state down here, and from country to city, just like anywhere else.
General rule of thumb I've discovered about accents, though: Regardless of what language you speak, or what dialect you have, if you're from a more urbanized area, you tend to talk faster. If you're from a more rural area, you tend to talk slower. There's exceptions, of course, but I do find that general correlation rather amusing.
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I found a place online to buy it, but now I have the issue of actually getting it to work...anyhow, working on it!
Mmmmn, yes, the british accents are good...anyhow, most accents are interesting because they sound different and makes things interesting.
Ahahahah, that is true. Funny and true.
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Good luck! 
I can mimic a halfway decent general English accent; once actually won an English accent contest during a trip to England some ten years ago. The judges were our bus driver and tour guide, from Oxford and London, respectively. They told me I did a pretty good general impression. Perhaps they were just being nice, but eh - at least I was better at it than the other Americans in my group! I blame all the Masterpiece Theater and such my mother watched when I was a child.
My guess is that since life is usually faster-paced in cities, people adapt to communicating more quickly, whereas there's a lot of time to pass in rural areas (not that you can't be busy, but the *pace* of the work is usually slower/more time-consuming), there's no rush to get points across in .5 seconds.
I'm one of the aforementioned exceptions, in a way. I was born in a rural area and grew up in suburban areas, yet I'm one of the fastest talkers I know. To the point that 65% of the people I know have to ask me to repeat myself because they couldn't understand me. 
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I have been told when I talk english, I have a british accent...if thats true or not I don't know because I sure as heck can't tell ahahaha.
XD
I'm born in the suburban. I guess some people would call where I live, hillbilly land or farmers land hah.
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It would make sense, since being from Europe you logically would learn British English. The same is true of most non-native English speakers from Europe that I know. But in places like Mexico and Japan where they're more likely to learn American English, the accent while speaking it is closer to general/mid-western American.
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Ehehe, actually, I learned my english from all the trips my family had to England when I was both a child and a teenager. So that's why I'm good at it.
Ahahaha, ^^
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Still makes sense though - you're a lot closer to England than the States, regardless of how you learned it. Most people outside of the States, Japan and a few other places in North America learn British-English. We Americans are a rebellious lot by nature and we just had to be different with our writing and speaking.
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