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ZRandomAnimations [2012-08-09 01:20:12 +0000 UTC]
Wow. this is totally what I need. Its a shame how people think designers are not worth anything. They like our work but never want to pay ever. This must be favored.
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Jra-Art [2010-03-23 17:02:48 +0000 UTC]
couldn't of said it at all better!
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GinsengLag [2009-03-30 01:17:08 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for putting this as a deviation. I will +fav!
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thundercake In reply to WritingRin [2009-03-20 23:20:54 +0000 UTC]
How is it rude to address someone by their name? And how would you get paid if they didn't know it?
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WritingRin In reply to thundercake [2009-03-21 01:30:50 +0000 UTC]
Oh, shoot. Immediately before reading this I read something else about commissioning and so when I read this post I was thinking about the 'clients' that contact artists to get them to draw their characters, etc. (in which case, you get paid through paypal and all they need to know is your email, not your name). But re-reading, I realize you were talking about real jobs and that changes things. Sorry about that mistake.
As for what I meant by the rudeness... It's just that I would hate for a random person that I don't know (like a commissioner--not someone looking to hire me for real) to call me by my name rather than my username. I think it's presumptuous of them. They need to introduce themselves first. If they did that I wouldn't think it was rude anymore. It's just that strangers are not allowed to get friendly with me.
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thundercake In reply to WritingRin [2009-03-21 01:34:40 +0000 UTC]
I tend to view all clients on the same level.. it can help your reputation to treat even the smallest jobs like they're important. I've gotten bigger jobs from previously small-time clients before. (Also, if you send or receive money on paypal, you can find out the other person's name by looking through their records.)
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WritingRin In reply to WritingRin [2009-03-20 21:57:56 +0000 UTC]
Also, I DO think it's a good guide. I'm sure it will provide some help in ferreting out the bad ones!
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worldofmyown [2009-03-18 21:36:01 +0000 UTC]
i think this is helpful not only to the artist holding commissions, but the commissioners too. Thank you.
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xxAlexaBlack [2009-03-18 13:06:01 +0000 UTC]
HOORAY!!! Everyone and their mother needs to see this! Especially if the do any kind of commission or freelance.
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flutist [2009-03-18 11:34:59 +0000 UTC]
signed contract can be a problem for both of us (the client and the artist) whose don't speak english, beside it will be "scanned.."
Other way is to ask for their scanned ID and 50% downpayment. This is not very formal, so there's no reason for them to refuse.
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djgaijin [2009-03-18 06:05:05 +0000 UTC]
This should really be a news item.
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goldenavatar [2009-03-18 04:01:04 +0000 UTC]
I can read that what you're sharing here is some solid advice for others, but the choice of words are just too aggressive and don't very easily lend themselves to be perceived as lacking in personal hostility. That could be potentially problematic as there are legitimate prospective employers who stroll about deviantart to recruit for projects, just as there are those here to defraud artists of their time and services.
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thundercake In reply to goldenavatar [2009-03-18 14:22:51 +0000 UTC]
Damn right I have personal hostility towards people who have screwed me over.
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goldenavatar In reply to thundercake [2009-03-18 14:46:07 +0000 UTC]
That's understandable. Thing is, and let me rephrase what I said earlier. Though you're giving some solid advice I can clearly read that you've got issues. Given how you've voiced them here, that may not be for the best, especially when you consider that there are legitimate prospective clients about here on DA who could pass you over for a project, not because of a lack of skill on your part, but that you might not be the most professional person to deal with, and that might not be for the best if being an artist is how you support yourself.
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thundercake In reply to goldenavatar [2009-03-18 14:55:33 +0000 UTC]
I don't really want to do business with anyone who wouldn't agree wholeheartedly with everything I've written here. Please don't come to my page and call me unprofessional and say I have "issues", especially when you've never worked with me and have no idea how I conduct myself in a professional setting. No, I'm not formal every second of every day, but this is tame in comparison to some of the things I've read on this subject by professional, highly-paid and established artists.
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LeftiesRevenge [2009-03-18 03:51:58 +0000 UTC]
This is extremely helpful! Thank you so much for posting this!
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andrea-koupal [2009-03-18 01:56:33 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for writing this.
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nekojizou [2009-03-18 01:46:33 +0000 UTC]
Great signs to watch out for! Although I'm not sure if all of them apply to me since I've only done very minor commissions that were private before. I don't think I'll ever get big clients like that haha.
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nekojizou In reply to thundercake [2009-03-19 17:46:38 +0000 UTC]
I wish >XD but I'm already changing my career plans so I probably wont do anything more than private commissions.
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baby-alien91 [2009-03-18 01:30:35 +0000 UTC]
I predict this gets a DD very soon.
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Asatira [2009-03-17 22:15:48 +0000 UTC]
Adding to the praise and the thanks. This is great information, some of which I had an idea of, but sometimes it has to be spelled out. Hopefully, people will find this and read it before getting scammed.
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thundercake In reply to assemblit [2009-03-17 22:02:02 +0000 UTC]
To get rid of a bad client, just tell them you're not interested in the job.
You should charge the amount that you need to live on, basically. Standard price for freelance artists is around $50-60 an hour, maybe more depending on how in demand they are.
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Rhino0 [2009-03-17 21:02:54 +0000 UTC]
Definitely helpful - thanks lots!
It's hard bein' the nice guy and being "understanding" because then people come around & screw you.
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Dr-Toszi [2009-03-17 20:54:13 +0000 UTC]
+faved
Very informative
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SashaFitzgerald [2009-03-17 20:32:41 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for writing that! It's very helpful.
You know, I recently saw someone on Etsy post a job offer for an artist to design her wedding invitations in an illustrated style similar to alice in wonderland. She offered to pay TEN DOLLARS. That made me want to cry. People under value artist's work and it drives me mad!
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Aralx [2009-03-17 19:56:07 +0000 UTC]
/clap /clap /clap
well said .
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shingworks In reply to thundercake [2009-03-18 01:48:33 +0000 UTC]
You're like that kid in that scene in the movie version of Matilda where he has to eat that giant cake as punishment.
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thundercake In reply to shingworks [2009-03-18 14:31:06 +0000 UTC]
nooo...he at least looked triumphant near the end...XD
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