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Description acrylics 2009,
the new, long necked stegosaur from Portugal.
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Aloodonguy67 [2013-07-31 14:47:34 +0000 UTC]

Cool!

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Dino1515 [2011-12-03 19:04:27 +0000 UTC]

isnt that a Kentrosaurus because it has plates and then spikes and it has a spike on either side of its body

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Dino1515 [2011-12-05 00:16:41 +0000 UTC]

No, although Kentrosaurus has these, it's not the only stegosaur with these features. This is Miragaia, a Portuguese stegosaur that had rather long neck compared to its relatives. As we haven't found all the bones, I added some features from its closest relative, Dacentrurus.
The shoulder spines of various sizes are known from several stegosaurs. Actually one from China, called Gigantspinosaurus (has nothing to do with Spinosaurus), had greatly enlarged shoulder spines that were twice the length of its shoulder blades.

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Dino1515 In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2011-12-05 05:40:13 +0000 UTC]

i know of Dacentrurus and Giantspinosaurus and yes Giantspinosaurus has nothing in common with Spinosaurus, Giantspinosaurus was a Stegosaurid and Spinosaurus was a Spinosaurid.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Dino1515 [2011-12-05 15:19:25 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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Dino1515 In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2011-12-05 19:57:32 +0000 UTC]

yep i know lots of dinosaurs but you probably know more

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PonchoFirewalker01 [2010-02-09 18:35:26 +0000 UTC]

Before this discovery came about, I once thought that if dinosaurs didn't went extinct, (if the stegosaurs survive) they would become sauropod-like (mostly with a long neck).

This like the Apatosaurus of the Stegos.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to PonchoFirewalker01 [2010-02-10 05:02:34 +0000 UTC]

Interesting theory. Stegosaurs started to die out in the early Cretaceous as the broad diversity of ornithopods started to take their place as the lower level plant eaters. I guess the Chinese Wuerhosaurus survived into Albian-stage, Middle Cretaceous. This animal seems to have had the shortest forelimbs relative to hindlimbs of any stegosaur, so maybe the stegosaurs were actually evolving in the same direction as the ornithopods, from quadrupedal into semi-quadrupedal. They just seem to have lost the race for survival.
But, that's just what I think.

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PonchoFirewalker01 In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2010-02-10 05:41:08 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see.
Well, we might never know.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to PonchoFirewalker01 [2010-02-10 06:45:22 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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blizzardguy [2009-08-07 09:20:47 +0000 UTC]

Never seen this species of stegosaurbefore, but I have heard of it on the net at least once or twice. I thought it was another relative of Stegosaurus or another species of Kentrosaurus, but if it lives in portugal during the Jurassic, then I'm sure it is something else entirely. The dull colours make it feel as if it's walknig through a deep jungle forest, minding it's own business...The one thing that really get into my is...Was it's enemy Allosaurus or some new type of predatory dinosaur? Besides that I think the feel of emotion is great on the pic, I love it...Good work.

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blizzardguy In reply to blizzardguy [2009-08-07 09:25:44 +0000 UTC]

I wonder what sort of other dinosaurs lived with it as it lived in the jurassic equivelant of Portugal? I mean, the continents were already splitting apart by the middle jurassic, so europe must of been cut off from North America during this time, so how did Allosaurus come to be in Portugal anyway? Unless it moved to africa and then into Portugal that way..hmmm...It's boggling my mind here...It really is...I need more evidence to see if Allosaurus really did live in Portugal during the late Jurassic or if those stories are fake...Anyway, I think it's really good to see new dinosaurs being unearthed every week, month, year in fact.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to blizzardguy [2009-08-08 12:37:51 +0000 UTC]

The fauna in Jurassic Portugal resembles greatly that of Morrison Formation in the US. Both have stegosaurids, allosaurids, Torvosaurus, sauropods and so on.

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blizzardguy In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2009-08-08 13:40:30 +0000 UTC]

Oh okay, but I still think the theory that Allosaurus managed to get to Portugal is 50 to 50, cuz some scientists suggest that Allosaurus remains are those of the mysterious 12.0-meter long predaotry therapod from Portugal, and then theres some that say that the therapod remains are of a completely different genera and species. From what I've heard, the remains have poor quality and were crushed somehow, probably from a sauropod attack. Even though remains are of poor quality, scientists still tihnk that it's a species of Allosaur(or more prefferably known as Carcharodontosaur, but some of the scientists(e.g. Paul Sereno) said that these remains are somewhat more stocky and heavier then Allosaurus, resembling the mysterious remains of a therapod skeleton, for some odd reason, the skull was missing from the skeleton, even though it was found in a rich limetsone bed in Utah. This skeleton, with my own theory, could be the missing skeleton for the Saurophaganax skull that has been built with a frickin' Allosaurus skeleton. Just another thing I want to get out is, that despite some dinosaurs living in different parts of the world, their bone structures are a small degree different from the ones in another part of the world(for example, an Allosaur skeleton from Africa and then another from North America). If you could,write back to me very sson so I can try and get a theory to this mystery that I've found in some skeletonal drawings.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to blizzardguy [2009-08-08 14:04:10 +0000 UTC]

link

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blizzardguy In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2009-08-08 15:26:48 +0000 UTC]

Is this link to the findings of the Portugeese therapod remains?

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subearanhuman [2009-07-03 17:55:32 +0000 UTC]

Sorry to have faved and run. I ran suddenly short of time. I hadn't heard of this dinosaur before seeing this, and the picture along with the idea of a new proverbial "link" was so.. just wow. You know?

I would love to see more if you have any.

Thanks so much for sharing. It really makes me realize how much I miss Paleontology.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to subearanhuman [2009-07-04 11:46:21 +0000 UTC]

That's ok, I too occasionally "fave and run" myself. Ummm... would like to saa more? What? Dinosaurs? Sure, I don't see why I'd stop here

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subearanhuman In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2009-07-06 05:20:23 +0000 UTC]

Sorry, super sleepy and the typing got a little.. out of whack. I'm not sure what I was asking. I think maybe just if you had more on this one, since obviously you wouldn't stop on dinosaurs. lol.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to subearanhuman [2009-07-06 11:40:20 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry Sorry, no more Miragaias available at this time.

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gdpr-1437813 [2009-04-16 17:57:00 +0000 UTC]

Jotkut ne vaan osaa. : )

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Ulfsark [2009-04-09 00:12:32 +0000 UTC]

interesting specie.
another "weird-full-armed-tank" dinosaur
good job!

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HOULY1970 [2009-04-07 13:20:37 +0000 UTC]

Really great Tuomas !!! The master of difficult perspectives strikes again !!!

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EmperorDinobot [2009-04-07 07:47:13 +0000 UTC]

Oh God this is exquisite.

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TheArchosaurQueen [2009-04-06 23:46:05 +0000 UTC]

Everyone loves the new dinosaur .

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Spookshow-Baby [2009-04-06 21:53:51 +0000 UTC]

Spikey dinosaur! I like him! I'd hug him but it would hurt. I like his foot prints.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Spookshow-Baby [2009-04-06 22:11:04 +0000 UTC]

Hug his foot prints.

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Spookshow-Baby In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2009-04-07 21:38:33 +0000 UTC]

*hugs the foot prints*

You don't know me!

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StarDragon77 [2009-04-06 16:35:36 +0000 UTC]

Since you do a lot of artwork of dinosaurs, ever heard of this species called "NanoTyrannus"?

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to StarDragon77 [2009-04-06 19:33:51 +0000 UTC]

What about Nanotyrannus? link .

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StarDragon77 In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2009-04-06 20:35:52 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that's the one.

Just wanted to ask.

Really is an interesting creature isn't it? Just like T-rex but in a much smaller form.

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Eurwentala [2009-04-06 14:26:42 +0000 UTC]

Hieno kuvakulma, ja maalaushan on tälläkin kertaa taattua laatua.
Jännä otus kyllä tuo Miragaia. Sauropodia matkiva stegosauri.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Eurwentala [2009-04-06 19:30:55 +0000 UTC]

Jep... yleensä tuun vähän jäljessä näiden uusien löytöjen kanssa, mutta nyt piti kiriä tuota Lourinhan kisaa varten

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MadMagpie [2009-04-06 08:45:24 +0000 UTC]

Miehän en edellenkään ymmärrä dinosauruksista hajun palaa, mutta pitää nyt kollektiivisesti kehua kaikki tämänkertaiset tuotokset: hienoja ovat ja tämä on suosikki niistä. Kiva perspektiivi ja ovelannäköinen ötökkä.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to MadMagpie [2009-04-06 19:31:07 +0000 UTC]

Kiitz.

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Miyess [2009-04-06 07:17:19 +0000 UTC]

Good job! Great angle...

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Miyess [2009-04-06 19:30:02 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. Only way to get the thing fit the paper. The traditional view was boring

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nonsenseadvice [2009-04-06 06:42:39 +0000 UTC]

A long necked stegosaur? I am intrigued!

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to nonsenseadvice [2009-04-06 19:28:32 +0000 UTC]

Yes, new find... at least 17 vertebrae in the neck. If you're interested, you can look for more info on the net.

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nonsenseadvice In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2009-04-06 22:37:31 +0000 UTC]

Outstanding! though we tend not to think of that , I think of new dinosaurs as a limited resource. We used to get awesome new ones all the time, but now new fun ones are rare.

Slim pickin's, my friend.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to nonsenseadvice [2009-04-06 22:48:21 +0000 UTC]

OK What new finds do you find "un-fun" ?

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nonsenseadvice In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2009-04-07 00:46:34 +0000 UTC]

Well, as unscientific as it may be for me to say so, I mean we find say,,,,,,,,Gallimimus had a dewclaw.(I have no idea if it did.Its only an example.) And while all new species should be considered equal in importance, we have the difference of impact between.....hmmm.....A sub species of Dimetrodon, or the new and mysterious "Predator X" I keep hearing about. The simple fact of its novelty appeals to the "epic" factor that fueled our origial fascination with Paleontology.

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Giggarex In reply to nonsenseadvice [2009-04-27 21:02:45 +0000 UTC]

I personally like these un-fun discovery things. Anything that helps dino to bird connections is better for me and my want to just accept the "modern dinosaurs". Though It may help if they find a bigger Terror Bird of some sort.

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nonsenseadvice In reply to Giggarex [2009-04-27 21:14:11 +0000 UTC]

I'll tell you, I love dinosaurs, but i friggin' hate birds, because they hate me! I swear on my mother's life I've been mauled by a macaw, geese ducks, chickens, toucans and FIVE, count them, FIVE ostriches in the last week or so! Emus seem to have no qualkms with me however.

Have you seen or heard of Dixon douglas' book The New Dinosaurs? Really fascinating view of paleontology as relevant to the modern world.

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Giggarex In reply to nonsenseadvice [2009-04-27 21:27:01 +0000 UTC]

I love them although I have experienced similar. On the otherhand you have to remember a dinosaur of the old days would have just killed you if it had any problem with you.

I have and I read it. I like it but I have issues with the birds and the fact pterasaurs that evolved on the ground have jaws like a horse instead of just the beak.

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nonsenseadvice In reply to Giggarex [2009-04-28 03:04:50 +0000 UTC]

Really? I'll tell you, books by Dougal dixon are rare fairy spun gold. I've spent absolutely forever trying to find Man After Man, i have After Man, and I hope to find the New Dinosaurs next! Book hunting is so much fun. I found Dougal Dixon through the Future is Wild. Tell me, how did you come across the New Dinosaurs?

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Giggarex In reply to nonsenseadvice [2009-04-28 19:41:42 +0000 UTC]

I hear that is supposed to be a good book and I may actually enjoy it but I can't find it.

I heard about it through a deviation here on DA and found it with the help of a friend (the person who made the deviation).

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nonsenseadvice In reply to Giggarex [2009-04-28 20:40:28 +0000 UTC]

Man After Man seems to be the rarest but i cant afford the $3oo They are asking for... And he's written so many regular dinosaur books it only complicates things. Even Strand, one of the biggest book stores in the work, said they'd only had one copy, foour years ago.

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Giggarex In reply to nonsenseadvice [2009-04-28 23:24:05 +0000 UTC]

I think it was posted online (all the pages) somewhere that I can't remember at this given momment.

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nonsenseadvice In reply to Giggarex [2009-04-29 01:47:14 +0000 UTC]

Intriguing....but also I'm a bit of a collector, so It'd be cool to have such a rare book. i dunno.

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