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Published: 2017-03-31 04:16:19 +0000 UTC; Views: 655; Favourites: 36; Downloads: 0
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Updated 1/15/18 updated image with scanner
Duration: approximately 5 hours and 40 minutes
Medium: HB, 2B, 4B, 6B (and I forgot them in the picture again.
)So, better late than never.
Even though this one was complex, I was surprised when I calculated the time it took. A lot of time was spent on his shirt with the strange designs and his wrinkles. I had a blast with his features. His eyes and their sockets were so unique and his mouth was a lot of fun to draw. It was more fun working on the outline of his wrinkled face, too.Mostly, while I was working on this I kept thinking "Damn, he looks cold and that looks like a harsh place to live."
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Comments: 23
Compostion: Needs significant changes to garner improvement. The negative space is going to waste here and distracting. The shapes of the coat, scarf, negative space shapes, and facial shapes all need refinement. The focal point is basically dead center of the cheek, not ideal placement. Potential improvements: Place focal point towards the eyes. Establish a background and atmosphere for subject, otherwise this is just a ID photo shoot. Explore the shapes in the clothing and hair, and maybe repeat the pattern within the coat elsewhere in the composition (that would be bomb actually, i'd give you a 5 star originality).
Value: When I squint my eyes, this entire piece ventures very little into the full spectrum of potential values with poor transitions into planes. Because the negative space is your brightest value, your focal point suffers tremendously. Face is flat, because the value is flat. It deviates maybe two scales from baseline. Analgous value rules are simply this: any three values clustered together within the same band will effectively translate as "quiet". The face is quiet because of this. If you want it to be the focal point, then create the drama, push the values through multiple value bands. Look up the 10-point value scale.
Warm regards,
Thomas
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The right eye slips back a lot too far on his face. It makes the eyes look lopsided in this case.Β
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This is very impressive considering how hard the subject you are drawing is. But there are a few things that I think would make this and future pieces stronger.
His wrinkles are very dark lines, which makes some of them seem less like wrinkles and more like something that was drawn on his face. I believe if you had made some of the lines lighter, like the ones on his chin and forehead it wouldn't have this kind of effect on the viewer.
The bridge of his nose also seems to have disappeared in your shading. There is a lighter value there to represent where it should be but it also is hard to identify right away.
Overall though I feel like you dud very well on this piece especially considering the subject that you had chosen.
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I don't agree with the over-generous rating here.Β
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You're welcome to your opinion, but that doesn't mean it matters.
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You and I agree. 100% yet, here you are engaging.Β
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Same should be said of you
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That's your opinion then. You don't have to go around saying that though, especially since it gives nothing of value to the critique it's self and is about just the rating.
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I went into detail with my own critique for value-based feedback. Also, public forum, public domain. If you don't want to have your critique itself analyzed, then don't post it. There's more lanes on this highway than you make it seem.Β
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The rating really doesn't matter to the critique because it is a personal choice of what you want to give that person for what you believe their skill. vision. etc. is. All I'm saying is if you don't agree with the rating you really don't need to say anything because it offered nothing of value to improving the details of what I had to say in critique I posted. All you had to say is that you didn't like the rating I gave it,which doesn't give advice to the artist. You had nothing to improve on my advice. And just because it's public doesn't mean you can't be told someone doesn't like what you have to say to your initial comment that had no true value to the artist. You said you didn't like my rating, I said I didn't like that you said that and felt that it wasn't necessary to say. Simply put if you don't have something nice or something valuable to say it's best to not say it.
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Your feelings are hurt. I'm trying to tell you, the artist, and the community: I don't agree with your critique. I'm theoretically standing in front of you, telling you I don't agree in order to snap your attention. I want you to specifically engage the comment, start an inquiry, and get the conversation going. Instead, you recoiled. You'd rather play a victim. Here's my thought process on this, and feel free to add or subtract: Look at the critique wall. Look at all the high markings Art that doesn't deserve these markings are getting. It's a tragedy. Why? Because the Artist has no reason to grow when their ego gets stroked. You learn on an exponential trajectory when the critique stings. That's a truism.
How that applies here, I'm calling you out for perpetuating the problem. You are not doing the artist or the community justice when you inflate markings just so you don't appear as the bad guy. What you do, do, is hopefully get buddy buddy points and try to get positive exposure by writing flowery critiques. It's selfish. It takes courage to call out bad art for what it is, because then the spotlight is put on your own work, which means then you are subject to the exact same critique. Oh well. Steel sharpens steel kid. You want to get sharp, put yourself out there and get cut, get your feelings hurt, and then come back for more. And more.Β
I'm not sorry. I'll never be sorry for calling out lies. If that dude you wrote on deserved 5 stars, then what does that leave for the rest of the artists that are no-shit professionals? They get 5 stars too? Thats a participation trophy and it's weak.Β
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You also treat others as you wish to be treated. You obviously want harsher critiques and a harder way of being dealt with as an artist. I don't. Even in all the art classes I had been in I wasn't given harsh advice even by the teacher.Β I haven't encountered someone with opinions on art like your own before.
I give the critiques that I would wish to receive because I would much rather feel like it is an open conversation as I am trying to learn than it is a attack or a put down of my work.
You put out into this world what you wish to receive and I would much rather receive positive and kind emotions than I would harsher once. Putting out art is a vulnerability, in my opinion because it is something that you have invested so much of yourself into. I would much rather handle thing like I know how I feel when I put art out than handle things like I was grabbing the artist's attention and rubbing their nose into their mistakes like a puppy that had an accident in the house.
You may continue to do as you do and I may continue to do as I do. But I would like to kindly as you to remove yourself from interacting with me because I do no agree with or appreciate how you're interacting with me. I did what I thought was right for this artist based on how I prefer to do things. You did your own critique as well. But you do not see me initiating a conversation on your critique saying you should be easier on the artist. That is because I am doing only what I feel is necessary and what I feel is of value to the artist.
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Good talk, good luck with your artistic endeavors. No hard feelings
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Oh my god. It's my opinion, yours is different but you're the one that unnecessarily interjected yourself into my critique. Saying the stars are too high doesn't teach the artist how to draw better. We also come from vastly different backgrounds of art so what I think is good is going to be different than what you think is good. You can look at what I have done as an artist and what you have done as an artist and see that we have very different skill sets with very different opinions on art. There is nothing wrong with that and there is nothing wrong with saying that a piece of art is better than what you think it is, because I have a different opinion on what makes something good.
There's nothing wrong with saying this piece is good. I know there are issues with it and I pointed that out, but granted I am not going to point out the same things that you do, because we are not the same person. I gave advice on what I saw wrong in the piece. If it was a participation award I would have stroked the artist's ego the entire time I was giving the critique, but I didn't I gave what valuable information I felt I could give. But it is not going to be the same as yours because we don't have the same eye or the same experience or the same opinions.
You're out here telling me what I do is wrong and then get upset when I feel victimized. I am doing the best that I can as someone that is learning and your comment gave off the tone of someone who wasn't offering to teach someone but rather telling me to shut up. Saying you don't agree is something that you can do, but you didn't give any valuable information. Essentially what happened is I made what you perceived as a mistake and you said it's time to stop rather than explaining why. But even then an opinion can't be a mistake because it is not based on factual information.
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Thank you!
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You're welcome. ^^
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Thank you very much!
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You continue to prove that drawing portraits is one of your strengths! Well done. I love the design on the man's shirt (jacket?). The face is covered in wrinkles which tells a story all on its own!
Your observation of him living under harsh circumstances seems to hit the nail on the head. This whole piece seems to suggest a man whose lived a tough life. Very cool. Thank you for sharing!
Out of curiosity how do you post your work online? Do you scan it or take a picture? I ask because I'm wondering if the values look different in person. You informed us that you used dark pencils (4B and 6B) but this image doesn't look that dark. I have issues with my own work not looking as dark as they are when I take pictures so I was wondering if you are experiencing the same thing?
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Β Thank you! 
I figured that his outer layer was a light jacket made of a shiny-ish fabric. Then he had an inner shirt that looked to be corduroy and also a fur collar. Not sure if that was a third layer or part of the jacket.
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I am experiencing the same thing. I'm taking photos with my Samsung phone and it definitely changes the values sometimes. My WIP came out much darker and I don't know why. I couldn't get the finished one to come out as dark.
I always look forward to your comments! 
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Amazing level of details on this one!! The patterns on his clothes do look hard to draw, as they follow the folds of the fabric so I can see that you put a lot of time and effort on that part.Β Β
And great job with his expression, the wrinkles add a touch of personality. The mouth and eyes are really well drawn, I like the shading too, especially the left side of his face where you can see the subtle transition to the darker tones.Β Β
Drawing a portrait every week is big challenge but you're doing great so far!Β Β
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Wow! Thank you so much! I really love your thoughtful comments!
I appreciate that a lot! I fell behind a little (stupid broken sharpener
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