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I've just been bombarding you guys with art the past couple days. I don't know what's come over me. But have another doodle dump anyways!!! But it's mostly just Bucky/Tulip stuff, let's be real....1) Just a Tulip sketch I did a few weeks back. Was playing with an ever so slightly realistic style, but lately I've actually been going in the opposite direction and simplifying my style....hmm....
2) Something I was gonna do for Father's Day this year but just never got around to finishing. Since Tulip's biological dad, Fabian, has been out of the picture since she was five, her uncle, Elijah (married her mother's sister), has been the closest thing she's ever had for a dad. So I wanted to do something sweet and sketched out a little Tulip (probs about 7 or 8 in this) with Eli.
3) I can't be the only one who has a soft spot for this cliché as hell trope. Where one person helps fix up the other when they're hurt, because who doesn't love their OTP having to get close and be awkward around each other while one of them is patching the other up? This was originally gonna be it's own thing, hence why it's shaded and all dolled up and everything, but there was something about it that just bothered me and I didn't really want to put it up on its own....
4) Another quick doodle of Tulip for kicks.
5) Some Natasha doodles. Needed some designs for a quick project I had planned on doing and wanted to make them as simple as possible so I could draw them quick. We've got Red Room!Nat (outfit based on this piece ), Default!Nat (with the outfit i designed for her), and Endgame!Nat.
6) Bucky with Starbucks looking sassy, a.k.a the best thing I've ever drawn in my life. Also trying out a new brush I got, but that's probably the least important thing about this one. I think this one is my favourite of the bunch.
7) Endgame AU because I like to cause myself pain. Based on Tony's funeral scene from the end of the movie. Basically the same except Tulip is there. I don't think she'd be in EG tbh if she was canon. She would have survived the Snap, but there wouldn't be much for her to do and she'd be to busy with her family just trying to move on like everyone else. But she works alongside Tony and Bruce in the AU she resides in currently, so I have no doubt that she'd be there with everyone else for the funeral.....
8) Now for something happy with Bucky and Alpine.
Based on this video because I saw it and couldn't resist. A lot of cats bring their owners gifts. I mean, most people get dead mice and birds that their cats catch outside, but it's the thought that counts. I wouldn't be shocked if Alpine tried to do the same, bring Bucky things as gifts to present to his owner. Unfortunately, living in the Tower or in the Compound, he doesn't get out much to catch birds and mice (which is probably for the better) so he has to improvise, which means just grabbing whatever he can fit in his mouth. Sometimes it's one of Tony's tools, sometimes it's one of Clint's arrows, or in this case, it's some poor soul's sandwich. He just grabs whatever he thinks his owner will like. I feel like Bucky just keeps all the stuff Alpine gives him in a box and at the end of the week empties it out and returns everyone's things and the cycle just continues.....9) Prowl from Katninjagirl96 's AU stories. It's been so long since I've drawn this grumpy, robot ninja. I've missed this dork. Definitely wanna do some more TFA stuff in the near future though.
10) Endgame!Nat. I forget exactly what it this was gonna be. It's another unfinished WIP.
11) Was in the mood to draw some sharks after watching some Shark Week a few weeks back.
Drew one of the sharks featured in one of the episodes named Deep Blue because she seemed dope and now I love her.12) Just another quick Tulip sketch, playing around with another style just for kicks.
Aaaaaand, that's all for now. Not sure what's next, but it probably won't be long.
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1/2/3/4) She definitely does. He's really the only father figure that's been a constant in her life and helped raise her alongside her mother and aunt. He definitely views her as his daughter as well. 
I wouldn't be shocked she knows some stuff. Maylee works as an ER Doctor and does that sort of stuff on the regular, so I wouldn't be shocked if she taught Tulip a few things here and there just in case. Nothing super complicated though. She probably just knows advanced first aid, that sort of thing. Probably wouldn't have learned anything in school though, more likely from her mom and other first aid courses....Probably pick a bit more up from Bruce as time goes on though....
5) Not sure if or when I'll finish it, but hopefully at some point.
6) Nope. He got is coffee, that's all that's important in that moment. XD I wouldn't be surprised!
7) I vote we just all pretend it was a bad dream that we collectively all had and that it didn't actually happen.....Honestly, I think Cap deserved a happy ending, but out of everyone, Tony definitely deserved one the most. With all the shit he's been put through? The guy deserves to live in peace with his wife and daughter at long last....just...damn Russos, why you gotta do him dirty like that???
8) YESSSSS!!!!!!! If it was anyone else's sandwich, Bucky probably would have given it back and apologized immediately, but guaranteed he just ate it as soon as he found out it was Sam's. XD
I know, it's adorable!!! "It's okay human. I know you're big, hairless, and dumb. I will feed you myself." XD
Definitely. He'll give back other people's belongings that Alpine stole, but any other random stuff he'll accept as a gift. XD
9) Woooo!!!! Awesome! Can't wait. 
A big mood, indeed.
10) Honestly, same. I know a lot of people hated it, but I was kinda into it.
11) Pretty much.
12) Yep.
Music meme....maybe....probably....I don't even know at this point tbh.
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1-4) I can see him being the gentle giant until Fabian steps in the room. Then he goes into Defensive Giant mode and make sure Fabian doesn't get too close... Then Bucky stands next to him and Fabian won't stand a chance. XD
Oh right... Maylee is medical.... yeah that makes sense... I can see her picking up a few from Bruce as well...
5)
6) I can see him being like "But first, coffee. And a lot of it if you want me to deal with this shit."
7) No... i mean, yeah, sure, give Captain America a happy ending, but Tony just got five years with his family before laying everything on the line to get the world back, and that's just... that's not enough...
But see... Cap was growing incredibly selfish as the MCU went on and Tony grew more and more giving, and it just sours everything when Steve did the most selfish thing and stayed behind to be with Peggy, and knowing that he pursued her niece shortly before this happened. Then he leaves Bucky alone in the present, yeah he has Sam, but that's not his best friend you know? Like, i get it, Peggy was his true love and all that, it's just... the things that happened just before it that makes things real creepy once you think about it...
Meanwhile, Tony has sacrificed time and time again, and what does that get him? pain for his loved ones...
That and Peter lost another parental figure and i'm like... REALLY???!!!!???!!!?
8) Sam: WHERE THE HELL IS MY SANDWICH!!?!?!?!?!?!!??!
Bucky: IDK, ghosts? *Throws the sandwich in a drawer or something to hide the evidence*
Alpine: *Currently Purring with his successful catch*
You is bad cat, let me show you how to cat. *brings up dead mouse* This is how you cat. XD
9) Going through Season 1 and its like... Damn i missed this show. May not have been the most popular series, but it was still a good series.
10) I honestly hadn't seen anyone really complain about her look... more people were upset about her fate in the MCU than anything else... understandable, but that's just me wanting everyone to have a happy ending...
OOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOooooo Even if its not the music meme, i'll still love to see it!
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1-4) One hundred percent accurate. He goes into protective-Dad/Uncle mode the moment he lays eyes on Fabian. I wonder who he's more scared of, Bucky or Elijah. Bucky's gonna punch his lights out in the near future, but Elijah's probably twice Bucky's size (who isn't a small guy at all, in my headcanon at least)....
Yeah....
6) That's probably a quote right out of his mouth.
7) Yeah, Steve can have a happy ending, but Tony definitely deserved one out of the everybody there. Sure, he got five years with his wife and daughter, but that was after years of horrible things happening to him and watching some of the people closest to him die, and then he proceeds to die himself....that was just shitty. Tony deserved so much better....But the Russos had it out for him since the beginning. They even admitted it, saying they wanted to kill him off since they saw the first Avengers movie.....just...damn
Huh, tbh, I never noticed that. But shit, you right. Okay, honestly yeah, the going back to Peggy thing was weird to me. I mean, sure, go back to the past, live it up. I think he should have stayed in the present, but whatever. Just maaaaybe don't go back to your ex after you spent the 21st century making out with her niece....That and it was pretty heavily implied she found someone else and moved on in the Agent Carter series so that wasn't very fair to her character either....And yeah, it's gotta hurt that the first thing he does after getting his two best friends back from the dead after five years (one of which he had barely any time with seeing as he thought he'd been dead for the best 70) is jump ship and leave them to go live an entirely different life without them and leave them alone.....Can't imagine how shitty that felt....
Pretty much....
I know right? Poor guy.....
8) Sam's not gonna be too happy to know that now even Bucky's cat has it out for him. XD
XD
9) Yeah, it's too bad they never continued it.....But, before I forget, you heard of that 'Trial & Error' fancomic a bunch of artists made for TFA a couple years back for a convention that was kinda like a equal to Endgame or something??? They have a free online download now!!!! I haven't read it yet, but I downloaded it and I am so pumped to read it when I have the time.
10) Really? I heard a lot of people complaining about her hair....or all the hairstyles in Endgame in general tbh. Not sure why so many people were focused on that, but I saw a lot of people going on about it and laughing at it before the movie came out.....I am cheesed about her fate in Endgame though, but that's more because I wanted her to have a happy ending too.....
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1-4) Hmm... I'd say he's more afraid of Bucky because i don't think Elijah could ever bring himself to kill Fabian. Bucky on the other hand... He might not ever do it, but as far as who would be more willing to kill Fabian it would probably be Bucky... Elijah would just shove the guy out the room...
7) Yeah, i knew the Russos were on the Steve Rodgers boner and didn't care much for Tony. They even admitted that Tony's five years was all he deserved. They gave him a hero's death, and don't get me wrong i get it. Tony would never stop unless he did die, and it was very poetic of his character arc, but i'm just so damn tired of everyone shitting on him because they ignored his story entirely and deemed him as the selfish narcissistic asshole that only cared about the bottom line. Morgan deserved to keep her father. Peter deserved to not lose another father-figure, and Pepper didn't deserve to lose the man she unconditionally loved. Rhodey totally didn't deserve to lose his best friend, and i really wanted to see him make peace with Bucky. But no... they just couldn't resist killing him off when they could have given him a operating behind the scenes ordeal, slowly becoming the next "Stan Lee" cameo. Like i could have totally see him rebooting the "Avenger's Initiative" gathering heroes new to the scene and training them with the older crowd and helping SHIELD get back to what it was meant to be. He would be "retired" but not really retired you know? He'd start with Spider-man and work on making a social network of heroes that could come in whenever one couldn't handle whatever it was they were dealing with. Things just could have been great, but alas, the russos didn't think about the potential... they just wanted to kill him...
That was the thing with the whole "Peggy moved on" thing, they always intended for Steve to go back and be with her. They just couldn't state it out right in either series because that was the Big secret you know?
It really does add an extra creepy value to everything when you really think about it... But what i really hate was how he just up and abandoned Bucky. He broke the Avengers to save his ass, and what does he do? Leave him with Sam and a Racoon just to have the dance... Steve's ending just... it doesn't make sense. Yeah, its sweet and i'm happy, but... it doesn't make sense once you start adding in what all had happened before getting to that point...
8) 
Like, he attacks Redwing because he thinks it a toy. If he rips up toilet paper it's gonna be Sam's bathroom. And it's nothing truly malicious, he does it just because he can!
And when Sam brings it up, no one gives a shit/doesn't believe him because Alpine is such a good boyTM.
9) SHaRe tHe LiNK PlEAsE!!!!????!?!?!?!?!?! Like damn, if that's not the most interesting thing i have heard of yet...
10) Huh... odd... didn't hear a damn thing about her hair. I just thought it looked cool...
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1-4) Good point, good point. Elijah wouldn't kill him. Probably wouldn't even lay a hand on him unless absolutely necessary. Bucky however, we know Fabian's gonna be catching a fist to the face in the near future so he probably doesn't have a problem laying a hand on him.
7) Really? They admitted that he only deserved five years with his wife and daughter? Like they were being generous? Damn....Yeah, very poetic and it fits to his character, but yeah, they completely missed the point. He was so much more than just a selfish, irrational, billionaire. Yes, that's how he started out, but he had become a completely different person by the time he died, and for the better. For sure. Tony had so much to live for, his wife and daughter, Peter, Rhodey, the Avengers, etc. That's what made him fight, but he didn't have to die because the directors were sick of him, leaving all those people without him in their lives.....Amen. I would have killed to see him and Bucky finally patch things up, for him to continue mentoring Peter, start putting together a new generation of Avengers, etc.. Even if he never officially returned to the MCU just in mentions or cameos. It would have been better all around had he just been able to retire and live his life....
Sigh....Honestly, I think the reason I'm so neutral with Steve's choice is because we knew for a long time that Steve was gonna be written out of the MCU in some way, shape or form. Whether it be death or retirement. So when he went off and did his thing, I was already prepared and was just like, "Yeah, okay, whatever"....
Okay, yeah, that part does bother me a bit. I mean, sure, Bucky doesn't need Steve there to hold his hand every step of the way (like some fans think, like oh my god, I've seen some crazy Stucky fans and they give me nightmares), but it would have meant the world for him to still have his support and his best friend there, especially after everything they've been through together. Sure, he's got Sam, but it's not even close to the same....Especially since yeah, Steve literally broke up the Avengers to save him, only to dump him all alone in the 21st century....I'm gonna be real, I hope we get to see some of the effects in Falcon & Winter Soldier. Bucky deserves to be bitter....
8) YESSSSSS. Bucky's gonna be a proud cat-dad. Tormenting Sam alongside him. One hundred percent. Bucky probably wouldn't even bat an eye at anything Al did to Sam and deny it because both he and his cat are little shits. XD
YESS. No one believes Sam and just ignores his complaints because they only see the good boi side of him. Please enjoy this meme that took me 2 minutes to make in MS Paint specifically for this conversation.
9) Right here! The link leads to a Google Drive (too big to actually appear) that you just download the pdf. from. I've skimmed through it and it's perfectly readable.
10) I think it was a pretty short-lived complaint.....
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1-4) Yeah, Elijah wouldn't lay a hand on him, but Bucky would smack a bitch and will smack a bitch, so he'd be more weary if Bucky were around than if it was just Elijah
7) Yeah, Tony only deserved five years with his wife and kid, which is... yeah there's all kinds of wrong with admission... like... what is wrong with you if you think five years is enough before killing a character off? like damn...
Tony: Has everything to live for and people who would actually be hurt because of his death
Russos: Five years, yeah that's good, now die.
Steve: Has acted selfish with his head up his own ass since Civil War.
Russos: You get live and go back to the 40's or whenever and comment incest by banging the aunt of the niece you snogged for like two movies...
Like, fine, go ahead, but damn. Y'all just wanted to kill Tony just because you knew the impact it would have on the hearts of those who loved him and it filled them with sadistic glee to do so...
My thing about the whole Steve leaving Bucky was that only a few movies ago, the man nearly broke the world in half, broke the Avengers, Broke Tony, and tore apart a family in order to keep Bucky out of prison. Made this whole deal about protecting and being their for his best friend in the entire damn world, and what does he do at the end of the Infinity Arc? Leaves him in a world he barely understands for a woman who had done just fine without him so... Just up and left the one person who would benefit greatly from his presence, just like that, not other thought after getting the girl... Like, cool, they had to set up Falcon becoming the next Captain America (Which i'm behind don't get me wrong) it's just... really, if they were going to kill Tony, they should have killed Steve. They were the big two and they started this together, they should have ended it together...
Both Bucky and Sam deserve to be pissed...
8) EXACTLY!!!! Sam is convinced that Alpine is out to get him and everyone, Tony Included, are like "You're fucking nuts mate." Though Bucky is completely aware of it and plays dumb just for the sheer fun of it. XD
Phenomenal use of meme, i approve. XD
9)
And then there's Optimus who is just done with everyone's shit.
Though, i'm not gonna lie, Black Arachnia was a surprise, and honestly, her inclusion was just really WTF, Mate?
But still it was beautiful. XD
10) Yeah...
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1-4) True. Elijah's a gentle giant. Bucky is....gentle to those who don't get on his bad side. Unfortunately for Fabian, he was on that list from the beginning.....
7) Honestly, I shouldn't be surprised....The Russos never really have been kind to Tony....
I get the, "Kill Tony off to make an impact" part. I could see that. But don't make him you're damn punching bag in every damn movie and say he deserved to die and you've been planning to do it for years simply because you don't like him, ripping him away from his new family in the process and not even giving him a chance to speak to all the people that he thought were dead for five years that he worked so hard to save and bring back....just....damn....
I'm gonna be real, I didn't mind Steve in IW (maybe because it wasn't super focused on him), but I really didn't like him in Civil War. I never really picked a side in terms of Team Ironman or Team Cap for agreeing with the accords or not, but he was....kind of a huge dick tbh. Maybe that's why I didn't like Civil War? I like Steve as a character (not a favourite, but he's up there), but something about Civil War was just...off-putting....I'm not gonna lie, I love Steve, but those post-CW fanfics where he's still acting like he's got his head up his ass and finally gets what's coming to him are a guilty pleasure of mine.
Pretty much yeah. He would have gone for the ends of the Earth for him two movies ago. Now? I don't think Steve even mentioned his name once except to trick 2012!Steve and then just upped and left him pretty much entirely alone.....Honestly, yeah. I think it would have been better if Steve had died in the end. Love the guy, but I think that would have been a better ending for his character arc overall....
Definitely. It'd be weird if they weren't....
8) YES. Everyone thinks Sam is going crazy because how could he ever accuse Alpine, the sweet, little angel, of doing such things? XD Bucky and Alpine just watch smugly.
9) Okay, I haven't read it in full yet, and I am either terrified or slightly intrigued at the things you just mentioned. I haven't decided, but it's gonna be one of the two when I get around to reading it. XD
I think Optimus deserves to be done at this point.
Didn't even know she was in there. Damn....I downloaded it, why haven't I read it yet?
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1-4) Yeah, Bucky is calm until you give him reason to... Once that happens its rare for you to not get out of his bad side...
7) They killed Tony for shock value and that they had a hate boner for the man for years.
About the only thing that makes me feel better is that RDJ said "Fuck you" for most of the script they gave him and he improvised a lot of his lines around the Avengers. That scene after he gets rescued by Carol where he lays into Steve, completely improvised.
Oh no, I was team Iron Man before the fucking movie came out. I just knew Captain America was going to do something stupid and sure enough... Now Tony didn't handle it any better, but Captain America would have been okay had Bucky not been forced into the spotlight. He would have been "Okay, guess i'm retired" but then Zemo happened...
Yeah, i planned on extending the "What if.." Drabbles to include the "Rogues get pardon and allowed back" trope, and Peter (Plus Vinn and the others because its gonna be cute) are all up on the "Team Protect Iron Man" and the snark gets real. I'm really looking forward to that.
But like i said, this man split the base in half, more than half given that Tony was essentially left with Rhodey and Peter. (Vision and Wanda try to be their own thing so i'm not counting Vision) and Steve took everyone else besides Thor and Bruce, but they weren't even on Earth. Basically ripped everything to hell and back, telling the UN to not only kiss his ass, but he's still going to do the thing they don't want him, all for Bucky, and then he goes "Fuck you, i'd rather have this girl i only knew for the equivalent of a week. Later" and just deuces out the scene... It just... what a Dick you know?
8) Sam: That Cat is evil
Bucky: No he's not, you're just paranoid, maybe you're taking your bird persona too seriously
Alpine: www.kapwing.com/resources/cont…
9) Whelp... SURPRISE!!!!!
It wasn't a long read, so i honestly thought you had already read it... Well, something to look forward to.
Yeah, Optimus is just done. You'll love some of his expressions...
She is, like briefly... like seriously, take her out and nothing changes in the story. So she's really there just for a call back...
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1-4) Probably yeah. I think you have to be pretty bad to get on his bad side in the first place, so it probably isn't easy to get out of....
7) Pretty much.
Really? That's awesome. It sucks they didn't bother to put that stuff in the script (because that shit was well-deserved), but I'm glad RDJ did it himself.
Eh, I never really picked sides. Mostly because when it came out I wasn't super into Marvel yet. If I had to pick now, I think I'd say Team Iron Man though. Steve had a couple good points about the Accords being utilized in the wrong way, but then he kinda went off the rails and broke the law a bunch. And Tony's points about the Accords being safer and allowing countries to choose whether or not the Avengers can take action make a lot more sense, both morally and legally....Honestly, even if Bucky hadn't come into the picture, I don't think Steve would have wanted to give of the mantle of Cap. I think he'd still fight to act as an Avenger without the Accords. He's always been impulsive and stubborn, not always seeing the big picture, so he'd probably be in the mindset that he's still right and that the world needs Cap....Though speaking of Bucky, I think had he been with the Avengers when the Accords were introduced, I think he would have been with Tony tbh. He's all about wanting to keep the people around him safe and giving people choices after going so long without them himself. I don't even think he really knew about the Accords in CW. It was more just Team Cap was the only ones not trying to put him in cuffs or kill him and he was desperate. It's an AU I've always low-key wanted to do stuff for because you know ya girl loves all the angst that would come from it.
For sure. Vision was sorta there in the beginning, but then, as you said, he ran off with Wanda....Yeah, pretty much. Fight literally almost the whole world for your best friend and brother you never had and then dump him in a new century and go off to be with a woman you never had a relationship with and would have happily been able to move on, on her own. Though I think Steve and Peggy knew each other longer than that. I think it was about 2 years, but they weren't ever in a relationship or anything.....
8) Oh my god. Poor Sam. Bucky and Alpine are gonna torment him until the end of his days, that is for certain. And no one will ever believe him. XD
9) Don't worry about it. It's not like you spoiled anything. If anything, your description is making me wanna get on that sooner. XD
Eh, oh well.
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1-4) Yeah...
7) Yep, RDJ was like fuck you, let me put actual emotion into this scene. And no one was expecting it so their reactions to Tony's speech there were genuine.
I was Team Iron Man from the start, mostly because Steve just did everything... Stupid. He refused to help, refused to cooperate, and yeah a lot of people weren't listening to him, but Tony was trying to meet him halfway, it just wasn't the halfway Steve demanded. Like... damn... they really threw a lot at Tony and he was expected to carry all of it with no backlash... All because Steve had tunnel vision for Bucky...
I believe Steve would have actually retired, i mean, now he has to go through everything that happened after the World War and not do anything to screw up the timeline or create a branched timeline. So if he can managed that, i think he would have been able to hang up the Shield... But it was bringing Bucky into play that really stirred the pot...
Yeah, i can see Bucky agreeing with the Accords. Its honestly no different than his time as a soldier in the US Military... No Bucky was doing his own thing, he probably knew that something big was happening with the Avengers, but he was just trying to live his life and move past the "Winter Soldier" part of him. He wasn't going to get involved until Zemo forced him to get involved.
Vision was hung up on Wanda. Hated that she had joined Steve and it seemed like it wasn't long before he was sneaking off with Wanda to do couple stuff so... I really do think all Tony had was Peter and Rhodey for the Avengers, Happy and Pepper for support. So yeah, without Bruce and Thor, Steve literally took everyone with him...
Just... Steve was a dick there at the end. It just shows that he really didn't want to do anything but go back to Peggy and that kinda defeats the purpose of him becoming Captain America in the first place? He wanted to fight for his country, but then he back pedals and returns home to the supposed woman of his dreams... to hell with everyone else...
8) And it adds to their whole "Love-hate" buddy relationship and its just great. XD
Alpine: *Does something that pisses off Sam* No ONe iS GoINg To BELiVe YoU!
9) OKay, good, for a moment i panicked.
But for real, read it now.
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7) Well damn. Good riddance.
Yeah, and there was a reason not a lot of people weren't listening to Steve. He was being reckless and refusing to compromise. Tony at least stayed level-headed and didn't let his personal issues seep into the matter....Pretty much, yeah.....
Eh, maybe. I still think that he wouldn't be up for retiring so soon though. It still seemed like at that point he wanted to still fight....But yeah, if he did, Bucky becoming involved only made it worse, as you said....
True. It wouldn't have been far off from being in the army.....Yeah, I think he had a feeling there was something else going on between everyone behind the scenes, but he was more concerned with his own issues at that time, being dragged into this mess where he's a fugitive again, people wanting him dead/locked up for something he didn't do, someone running around with the power to control him, etc. His mind was probably preoccupied with other things....
Yeah, he wasn't really around much.....Yeah, those are about the only people who would have stayed around at that time.
Pretty much....You'd think after literally, what, 10, 12 years he'd have been able to move on from a woman he never had a relationship with and lived her own life before passing away, but nope....
8) For sure. XD
9)
I will. Probably tonight. I'm working on a piece that I'm hoping should be up in the next couple hours and after that I probably will. If I could only get this one colour right.
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7) Pretty much... its one of my favorite scenes ever so yeah...
Tony allowed personal feelings into play a little. Especially just after Bucky escapes after he got captured the first time. He does let his anger get him for a period, but you can tell he's trying not to let it happen. Especially once he realizes that Bucky was framed. And then there at the end of CW where they learned Bucky killed his parents. that was emotion taking over... but that wasn't about the Accords so that doesn't count honestly...
He wouldn't be able to do it as the Captain America because he'd get recognized too easily. He'd have to go into secret mode which, honestly, i don't know if he's capable of doing that...
Yeah it had nothing to do with him until someone else forced the issue...
and i get that was his true love, but at the same time... Like C'mon dude, there's shit you haven't resolved yet in the present, why you going back to the past? Running away from everything?
9) OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I can't wait to see it! I hope you find the right color!!!
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7) Yeah, he did at some points. I just more meant he didn't really let his own personal feelings get in the way of signing the Accords and whatnot. I doubt he was completely sold on the idea of being completely under the government's thumb, but he liked the idea that people would be safer for it and no matter what his personal feelings on the matter were, he knew it was the best choice to make to keep the public safe.
But in those other scenes, I think it was deserved. Yeah, he did try to keep his emotions in check for certain things, not always successfully, but I think he did a pretty good job up until he found out the truth about Bucky being the one who killed his parents. Even then, I love Bucky and he's one of my favourite characters, but I don't blame Tony one bit for his reaction after seeing the video and finding out Steve knew. Who wouldn't become enraged and try to take revenge to some degree after finding out your parents' killer is in the same room as you and one of the people you trusted knew and didn't tell you? I know a lot of fans were pissed at Tony attacking them, but really, it's kind of a reasonable reaction. Same reason why I wasn't angry with Starlord when he freaked out on Thanos in IW. It was a very similar scenario. Peter Quill finds out that Gamora, the woman he loved, was murdered and Thanos, the one who did it, was standing right in front of him. How else was that gonna play out?
For sure. Then again, he and his team did underground Avengers work after becoming fugitives between CW and IW, so who knows....
Yeah....
Exactly.
9) AT LAST. I think I have. Would have finished it earlier but I got busy. But I'm just putting on some finishing touches now, making some final checks. Should be up soon.
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7) Tony understood the politics of it all. He knew that he had to play the game if he had any hopes of continuing being Iron Man. There was no way Tony wasn't going to be Iron man. He could put his feelings aside to do what needs to be done.
The people who were upset about Tony's reaction to discovering Bucky killing his parents and Steve lying to him, didn't have their parents killed when they were teenagers and have someone they trusted defend the killer of their parents, and it shows.
"BUt He wAs BRainWaSHeD." Yeah, he was. He wasn't aware of what he was doing. But in that moment, the stress of what was happening to the Avengers. The Accords. His best friend was never going to walk on his own ever again. The stress of government officials breathing down his neck. Tony fucking snapped, and had every right to fucking snap. All the shit he had gone through and he was in the same room as the man that caused a good portion of it, i'm pretty sure we would all have some form of violent physical response to it. I haven't come across too many people who whined about that scene, but the few that i have come across, i've called them Idiotic Fuck Boys (because all of them had been Team Cap Fanboys) and walked off.
Nope, not mad about Starlord's reaction either. Hell, he was more volatile than Tony when it comes to emotions, so yeah, his was justified as well, but boy was it badly timed...
9) WOOP I SEE IT!!! ABOUT TO COMMENT ON IT!!
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7) Yeah, for sure....
Pretty much yeah.
Yes, he was brainwashed and under the complete control of Hydra at the time and can't really be blamed, but in that moment Tony didn't care. All he saw was the same man on the video that killed his parents. He had no time to process that information so he could work through it rationally before coming face-to-face with Bucky and it was just randomly dropped in his lap while they were stuck in the same room for the first time. Yeah, after all the stress of the previous days with the Accords, the airport fight and its aftermath, the splitting of the Avengers (because even if the final fight hadn't happened and Tony somehow managed to get Steve and Bucky back to the US, no way was Steve gonna get off the hook), I'm not shocked he finally snapped. Most people would snap at one or two of those things alone....I've come across a few. Yeah, mostly it's only the hardcore Cap fans that believe he can do no wrong. I've noticed most of these fans also tend to hate Tony as well. Hmmm.....
Yeah, equally justified, just the absolute worst timing ever.
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Dude just literally found out that his parent's accident, something that has haunted him for decades, wasn't really an accident and the man responsible was standing a few feet away... Then add the sheer exhaustion of the past week and yeah... Tony snapping is appropriate. People who don't believe that was justified just don't know how stories and characters work and they're stupid because of it...
The worst part of the MCU Fandom are the hardcore Team Cap Fanboys, and its definitely Fanboys because they're the only ones that will argue that. The sad part is that they don't know how to expand their arguments past "Captain America can do no wrong!" and there's no other way around it. Bunch of idiots those guys...
Yeah...
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Exactly. That revelation alone would cause someone to snap, but everything that had been piled on from the past week? Not exactly surprising he reacted the way he did and he was kind of entitled to said reaction. Though I don't think it would have escalated as much as it did had Steve not gotten involved with the fight. That just put fuel on the fire....
Definitely one of the worst parts. I don't think there's a single character in the MCU that hasn't made a mistake . I think people gotta realize that yes, your favourite character makes mistakes and can be wrong sometimes (and Cap, love the guy, but he doesn't exactly have a great track record) and that just because you hate the other character that said wrong was aimed at, it still doesn't make their actions okay....
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Like damn, after everything, Bucky better be thankful Steve was there to interfere... pretty sure Tony would have killed him...
BuT All oF OuR FavOriTE ChaRAcTeRs ArE PErFEct. YoU'Re JuST WrOnG! One of these days i'm gonna punch those idiots... It's a cliche yes, but no one is perfect! And the Protagonist does not have to be the goody-goody righteousness that you think they are...
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There's a fair chance of that, yeah.
Exactly. Even the most fan-favourite or nicest characters are gonna have their fair share of flaws and mistakes....
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Pretty much, but die-hard fans beg to differ.
See: Steven Universe Fandom
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Can't argue with that. Love the show, but the fandom can get a bit....much. Especially since the movie dropped the other day, have you seen it?
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Oh yeah, i've watched it. Won't go into the details unless you've seen it as well?
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Yep. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was really good.
I also LOVED the music. I immediately downloaded most of the songs as soon as I finished watching it. They were amazing.
But Pink Diamond....honestly, I was pretty neutral with Pink/Rose before, but damn....she just left Spinel on a planet for 6,000 years because she got tired of her....like....who the fuck does that? Damn....And some people are defending her! Which ironically is very similar to what we were just talking about....
What did you think of it?
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Well... someone clearly liked the animation...
If they got rid of the Diamonds (they were being super fucking creepy especially at the end) and the literal man-child that was the Steg Fusion, i would have liked it better. Pink Diamond/Rose was a fucking bitch, and i still don't know why she got all the fucking praise in the series because she is the just... the worst character in the show...
--The reformed Diamonds are just... eww... they were the abusive parents metaphor turned into the creepy parents metaphor and i honestly don't know which is worst
--Fusion was already associated with intimate/romantic relationship, and i understand that there is a father-son love, but the Steg Fusion, especially with the aesthetic they chose, i was weirded out and cringed through out that entire scene. Independent Together is probably my least favorite song because of the weird associations and conclusions you can come to once you study the Fusion that is Steg... (Also the scene truly didn't make sense to me? don't know why, but how they went about it to get Pearl back to the way she was, i just feel like they could have gotten it with something different...)
--And Like... Pink Diamond was the worst. She was playing both sides of the war for shits and giggles, manipulated those around her in emotional and mental ways, and now we've learned that she can, and has, abandoned those she called a friend just because. And how she left Spinel at the garden was just... what the fuck alien space dictator???
Not gonna lie, i went into this movie with low expectations and sheer boredom, someone uploaded the movie to youtube in like... 4 minute increments, so i was like "Why not? Its not like i can go anywhere while there's a Hurricane in the area..."
And... well, it's not the A++++ that most of the fandom is giving it (or at certain portion of the fandom), but was it a complete flop? No. It genuinely made me care about Spinel, and i'm very fucking concerned that she's with the remaining Diamonds because, like i said, they became creepy real fast...
I'd honestly give it a C. Nothing to get your hopes up about, but probably not going to be the worst you seen, especially since there are worse things in the series itself...
Pearl, Amethyst and Garnet were fun to see reverted back to their beginnings, and i like that Stephen was finally Done with everyone's shit, but understood that shit needed to get done.
The songs were a bit excessive? Not bad, but... it felt like they couldn't come up with the dialogue for entire scenes and said fuck it just to fill out a soundtrack, and as a writer, well, i can't help but to feel like that's... pretty lazy on their parts? Songs are fun, but not everyone other minute of your movie needs to be a song you know? You either sing it all the way through like an opera or you space it out more like a musical...
I like how Spinel got a fucking drill and a magical cool-looking scythe with like... no explanation whatsoever as to how she got them. That's some Kingdom Hearts level bullshit right there, but that honestly didn't bother me. I was more concerned with the fact that Rose fucking abandoned her, isolating her to a garden that rotted away due to sheer neglect, like, my heart broke and i wanted to go and kill Pink Diamond at that point...
So honestly, 7.3/10 -Needs more Peridot
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I couldn't help it! My art-loving/history-loving ass enjoyed that part very much. XD
Okay, I'm with you on the Diamonds. They were a lil' weird for me. A bit too clingy. I laughed wayyyy too hard at the Steg fusion, mostly because of the design and how unexpected it was, but I'm not gonna lie, it was a bit weird too. I was never crazy about Rose. She didn't really have a personality at the start and wasn't there so I was like, "Meh". But then when she got a personality she turned out to be.....kind of a really shitty, selfish person in general....
- The Diamonds did a complete 180 to the point where it made me a bit uncomfortable, not gonna lie.
- Yeah, I feel like the love is justifiable and worthy of a fusion, just....maybe not that design. Why was he so buff tho? Neither Greg or Steven are buff. Wtf. I get they were going for a rockstar kinda look, but they kinda went the wrong way with it....I feel like they should have gone with something fun and true to the characters more rather than....and I shudder when I say this, but like they were trying to make him "hot"....
Yeah, they probably could of gotten Pearl's memory back in a different way, but I did really like one part of it: that it had nothing to do with Rose. The whole series she's been unconditionally in love with her and it's motivated and controlled a lot of her actions. I'm glad that they're acknowledging she's moved on and is her own person in full now and doesn't need Rose to be who she is now. I did really like that part.
- I was heartbroken to see what she did to Spinel. I mean, yeah, it's up Pink Diamond's alley tbh, but it was still horrible! She just left her on a space garden for 6,000 years because she annoyed her! There were better ways to go about it. I mean, she's obviously able to understand when to lay off (she didn't seem to be in a damn cheery, happy-go-lucky mood when she got to Earth, that's for sure), so why not get her to understand that and grow from a positive point of view rather than dumping her and leading her to become bitter with resentment and hate???? Wtf.
So far I found most of the episodes to be pretty good as of late, so I went in with pretty good hopes. I wouldn't say I was disappointed or anything. Definitely some questionable moments, but overall I'd say it was pretty good. I'd probably give it a fair B. Maybe B+ because some of the songs were really good in my opinion.
Yeah, I liked how Steven was just ready to be done with all this bullshit. XD I feel like he's pretty entitled to that.
I didn't mind most of the songs. There were a few I'd take or leave, but then there were some really good ones. I like that a fair bunch of the songs were used to tell the story, like they should, but then there were some that weren't very necessary. Like that sequence where all the gems revert to their default settings that Pearl explained and narrated all the gems? Cute, funny, but not really needed....
An explanation would be cool someday just out of pure curiosity, but honestly? I could life perfectly fine without knowing. I am curious though as to where the heck she learned to fight so well tho.....For sure.....
That's far. I'd give it....probably an 8/10. Somewhere around there.
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Like... they went from literally Nazi's to being very obsessive and creepy... and i'm just concerned about how to take care of Spinel... And i hate that they let her go with the diamonds. Didn't even give her the chance to move past what she done just let her run away from everything...
And when Blue Diamond was like "One of Pink's lost treasures" I was like "Bitch she abandoned Spinel. Spinel wasn't a lost treasure, are you telling me none of you ever thought to look for her???? SHE WAS LEFT IN A GARDEN TO DECAY AND ROT AND BE FORGOTTEN! If she truly was a treasure, Pink wouldn't have done her that way..." Steven i understood because he didn't know, and only Pearl seemed to know, but not enough to really know you know?
Everyone was more concerned with the way the Steg Fusion was "flirting" with Pearl, though i honestly couldn't see that. I think Pearl was just too dazed to really do anything... But overall, the Steg Fusion didn't need to look like that, there's actually concept art of the Steg Fusion that looked ten times more appropriate than what they settled for and everything about it is just.... Weird and the scene was uncomfortable... If they took it out there honestly wouldn't be too much difference in the overall movie...
-There just doesn't seem to be a concrete representation of Fusion because They covered too many, and often uncomfortable, topics with fusion, but overall it was used for the Romantic kind of love. So for Steg to be a thing, it would imply that Steven and Greg had romantic feelings and that... that's just wrong...
-Pink Diamond romanticizes an abusive relationship and... that's not right. She does all of these horrible things and everyone loves her for them and it's like... do you not understand what she's doing/has done?????
Nah... It's worthy of C. Not the best, definitely has a few issues that will never be resolved, but the overall story was okay... Problematic in some cases... but not the worst they have done. Have no expectations, and recognize the flaws.
I feel like that if this had been the series premiere instead of a finale, i think things would have been a bit better... not perfect, but better...
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Yeah. Spinel's probably gonna get real tired of them soon like Steven did (which would be completely understandable) or be all for it, after all, this is a gem that is made to literally want to have fun, entertain, make friends, and play all the time. Though I'm not sure if that's what the Diamonds have in mind....But still, the Diamonds were on the creepy side, no denying that....
I guess 'cause the Diamonds didn't know? They probably just figured she was lost or something. Even Pearl didn't know. To them, she just disappeared. They probably didn't care tbh. It's not their gem, so they probably weren't too worried about it and probably forgot about her.....
Really? I didn't really see that. That's kinda....ewww. One, yeah, she was more dazed than anything, and two, she's basically a mom to Steven and is now friends with Greg. Just...no. I'm guessing it looks more like an actual mix of the two and not some weird, "hot" anime character? Yeah, I don't think Steg was necessary to plot. Probably more to answer the question of if they would ever fuse....
- Eh, I don't think it is. Or at least I don't really get that vibe with the fusions. I think Garnet and Pearl/Rose's fusions are the only ones with any Romantic attachment to them. The rest are all based on friend or family relationships, like Opal, Smoky Quartz, Rainbow Quartz 2.0, Sardonyx, Sunstone, etc. So I personally don't get romantic vibes from the fusions unless the gems/people are in a romantic relationship, or implied to be in one....
- Pretty much yeah. She strung Pearl along for years and manipulated her (more so in the beginning, but even then she didn't seem to have a single problem with how loyal Pearl was to her and what she was willing to do, hell she encouraged it). She lied to everyone else for thousands of years. Started a war that claimed the lives of thousands. And then proceeded to leave Spinel abandoned in a space garden. She made all these choices, knowing they'd have consequences, but didn't seem to care and just dropped them in Steven's lap.....and people are still defending her....I think the actual characters are indifferent to her now. I think they've been kinda pissed and disappointed in her ever since they found out she was Pink Diamond, or at least that what it seems like to me.....
I'd still give it a B. I enjoyed watching it. I liked the music, the animation, the story, etc. Some we could have gone without, some was really good. I liked it enough in the end.
Maybe, yeah....
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We'll see... didn't this get another season or something?
But they still could have checked you know? They knew enough about her to know that she was "missing" and they never bothered to fucking check to see if she was there or truly lost?
That's why the whole Steg scene was just so... cringy, like that whole thing was like... Really? We're doing this now? Just sent shivers down my spine thinking about it...
I don't know... its just... with the way Steven and Greg are, the fusion didn't need to look like that and act the way he did... it was just... eww...
Rose/Pink Diamond was just... a whole lot of no and then some, but people still revere her like she was the greatest thing to grace the planet and i'm just sitting here like "SHE WAS A BAD PERSON WHY YOU NO SEE THIS????"
the Gems may be indifferent (Though Pearl is still kinda on that bubble), but the fandom still has her on a pedestal, a good chunk of it anyways..
Like i said. removed the Diamonds entirely and change the Steg scene and i really would have liked the movie better....
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I thought it did. Not entirely sure though.
I guess because they didn't care. Until recently (and probably still to some degree) they saw her as just another gem in their empire, a lower life-form. Even thought they missed Pink, they probably didn't want to go through the trouble to get her back. I don't think they realized just how much they missed her until Steven came into the picture and now are desperate for a replacement....that's my thought process anyways....
That's fair....
I didn't mind them fusing, I wasn't really surprised since I figured we'd get that at some point soon, but the actual Fusion itself....Yeah, it was definitely not very suited for them.....
For sure! Like yeah, some people like villains (because that's kinda what Pink is now), but those villains usually have redeeming qualities. Pink Diamond doesn't. I think people more like the "idea" of her. With her being this child-like, sweet, freedom-fighter, when really she's not.....
Yeah....
I could see that.
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But that still paints them in a terrible light... it's like... Throughout the series, we've seen them neglect and belittle Pink, acting as if they don't really care about her until she "dies", and it makes someone really shitty if they only acknowledge their love for someone after they've died. And i get grief can do a lot of things for people, but it doesn't work out with the diamonds because well... they're not very good characters in terms of a writer's perspective and in the universe itself... like they're just bad and their "Redemption" is just... no.
Loki was a sympathetic villain. Zuko was a sympathetic antagonist. Pink Diamond is not. She's manipulative, cowardly, and has covered up the truth more often than not and a lot of people (Especially her family) has had to deal with the consequences of her actions. She didn't own up to anything, and was content to keep that way so long as no one called her out on her bullshit and didn't mess with her hippie utopia...
The people behind Steven Universe has told us that she's a good person, but everything that has been shown tells us she's not and why people can't seem to connect that is a level of stupidity that coincides with Anti-Vaxers...
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True yeah. There isn't really any way to put them in a positive light after that.....Pretty much yeah. If you only love someone after they're already dead, is that really love? Or are you just in love with the idea of what that person could have been?....Yeah, it doesn't really work out for them....
Yep. Most villains have some human, redeeming qualities to them. Pink doesn't. She does what she wants, no matter the cost and doesn't face the consequences. As long as know one knew who she was, she figured it was just okay to do those things.....
Can't argue with that....
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And it just shows how abusive they are. And i get that was what Sugar and others were trying to do but... She made them Nazi's as well and decided that "LOVE CONQUERS ALL" Was the moral of the story and like... no... that's not how that works. She took that too far and hasn't stopped...
And if she had any actual Charisma, i could probably respect her more for it. But her personality is just flat and one-dimensional with only biased parties telling us she's a good person. All of it just isn't favorable for her and yet she's was suppose to be this renowned matriarch and like... NO!
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Pretty much yeah....Yeah, I'll admit, that's one thing I wasn't super fond of about Steven Universe, that "love and understanding fixes everything, even intergalactic dictators who have been conquering world after world without remorse to expand their empire for thousands of years and had no intention of stopping!". I felt like they should have had at least one villain that they couldn't reform.....
Yeah, she was always just a background character until it came out she was Pink Diamond and then they just didn't really build on her personality other than making her seem even worse....
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And it honestly should have been White Diamond that should have been the big bad to defeat. Yellow and Blue were simply following orders, and that would have made the series just a tiny bit better. But no, They had to bullshit their way out of that and reform white as well...
They really loved pushing that one solution works for every situation and that's not how stuff works...
They didn't develop her. They had the most biased people in the room tell you that she was a good person who just "Made mistakes" but no, in most of the situations. They were deliberate and real shitty of things to do...
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Honestly, yeah.....I actually didn't mind the idea of Blue and Yellow reforming (I think there's potential, though they would need a lot of work), but White Diamond....I think she should have stayed a villain, the final boss so to speak....That and out of the three in the movie, she's the creepiest. I just don't think someone like White would be easy to redeem and tbh, even in the movie it's very obvious that she's just faking it to try to impress Steven.....
Yeah.....
Pretty much yeah. I think they thought that kind, sweet, caring, freedom-fighter description of her from Season 1 would carry over when all of the horrible things she did were revealed....Honestly, it just kinda made her seem worse because it meant that all that was a lie....
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Blue would have been the one seeing how she was just sad. Yellow was iffy, but still better than reforming White, but nope have to redeem all three because.... REasOns!
I saw somewhere in an interview somewhere that Sugar had been excited to write Spinel because it was "The first time true villainy appeared in the series" or something to that effect and i just sat there like... "Um... HAVE YOU NOT PAID ANY ATTENTION TO YOUR FUCKING STORY???" Like damn... just, the more i read up about the people behind Steven Universe the more i've come to realize that they had no business being near this show...
I think all the diamonds are faking it tbh... but i guess "Fake it til you make it"
Honestly, they should have kept Rose and Pink separate and kept the "Rose shattered Pink Diamond" story as fact. I think that would have made things better if by, like, a tiny margin or something...
It would have actually given Steven something to considered than to just "Psyche! She was alive all along!"
Truth be told, Pink faking her death to become Rose just proves what a lazy coward she is...
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Blue I was rooting for. Out of the three, she definitely has the most potential. To me she actually seemed kinda genuine in the movie. Yellow, I couldn't really tell how genuine she was in the movie since she barely spoke, but in earlier episodes she showed some potential too. But White? Not really at all tbh.
......BOI, HOW IS SPINEL "TRUE VILLAINY"???? Like, wtf. Bad guy-potential for sure, but not "true villainy".....damn.....
I think Blue is genuine, or at least trying. Yellow barely spoke so I couldn't get much from her. White, no way she's real. Absolutely not.
Yeah, probably. Especially with how far-fetched the whole idea was from the beginning. It just didn't really make sense at the time and afterwards painted both of them in a bad light. Rose being Pink Diamond showed she was a hypocrite, a coward, and that she never was the wise leader of the Crystal Gems we all figured she was, just a spoiled, childish, ruler who didn't like it when things didn't go her way....It probably would have made more sense and made for a better story and characters if they were kept separate....
For sure....
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Yeah, i probably wouldn't be disappointed if it had been just blue...
I don't think Sugar is paying attention to anything she's saying/doing when it comes to Steven Universe... there's just... too much shit happening and it sends the wrong message 9 times out of 10...
I think Sugar was trying to show how loss affects people differently. Blue went into depression. Yellow refused to acknowledge her feelings and White... well... White Destroyed anything that wasn't absolutely "Perfect". The problem is that all three are text book Nazi-esque dictators down to the caste system and genocidal tendencies and sympathy should not be going to those kinds of people...
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!! Like, what the actual Fuck? Is she a noble leader? Or is she a spoiled brat? Everyone says she's a noble leader. But everything we've been shown says otherwise and you have to have dug a massive hole under that rock in order to not see it...
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Yeah....
I haven't really watched any interviews or anything with her tbh. Never really caught my eye and they've always gotten complaints about them, similar to yours, so I stayed away from them, but I heard enough through the grapevine.
For sure. Blue and Yellow had an interesting dynamic in that way. White just came straight out of the left field, all about perfection and how great she was....True, true.....
NOBODY KNOWS!!!! Pretty much, it just ruined both characters at the same time....two birds with one stone....
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I've been in and out. I follow a few blogs on Tumblr that gets into some of the stuff she does. So i don't get everything, but the bigger stuff i get see...
And from what i have seen, i don't think Sugar is aware of the job she has and what it entails... like... they seriously need someone who knows what the fuck is going on..
Which is why White should have been the big-bad and not redeemed at all. Redeem yellow and blue all you want, but white was the one that crossed the line too far...
Exactly!
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Ah, okay. I don't tend to see a whole lot....
Eh, I wouldn't be surprised....I've seen quite a few directors and show creators like that.....
For sure.
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Oh wait! I found exactly what she said: lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/1…
Makes it even more sad TBH....
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....Yeah, I shouldn't have been surprised....
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Yeah... It's like... wow... I don't know what all a Executive Producer entails, but i'm pretty sure it involves knowing something about the show you're writing...
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Yeah, you'd think so....
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No Problem ^^
I Cant wait to see how you'll do with my ideas when your open for them ^^
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I think you'll really like my new ideas
it involves Ida having a new kinda look & her having a boyfriend
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