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WolvenRemorse — ' I eat Meat ' Stamp
Published: 2008-05-06 02:32:52 +0000 UTC; Views: 2549; Favourites: 129; Downloads: 14
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Because I was actually attacked by a Vegan the other day. I was attacked because I eat *meat*.Okay, I have never once attacked someone for their choice in food, but I guess its alright for others to attack me.
So, this stamp was born.
Big messages deserve BIG stamps. =3I have the visa versa version uploading next.
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And soon, meat will be made from plants, not animals. Just ask the fine folks at Beyond Meat, Impossible Burger, and Good Catch Seafoods
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Exactly. I actually get along with two vegetarians and a vegan very well. They don't even mind when someone in the group eats meat around them.
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Amen.
,Yeah,we can be friends,if you don't kill me.
(The person I mentioned is a vegan who bullied me when I was trying to be nice with her. I'll unlock her if she apologizes and quits acting like a dick.)
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I have a friend who only eats veggies and fruits but we are still friends, even when i eat meat!
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You actively support murder by eating that meat. lol
We could be friends, your right, but I'd never let you eat dead animals around me.
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To me it does. Every vegan/vegetarian I have EVER met have just been complete jerks/assholes to me without me even provoking them, let alone knowing what they were then.
EVERY ONE. Which, I believe is A LOT. And the one time I "did provoke them" was by posting a comment on a picture of a cow saying;
"I like cows just as much as the next person, but please I love hamburgers too!" And they reply with calling me a hypocrite.
I wasn't being sarcastic. I honestly, love cows. They are my third favorite creatures.
But anyways, I would seriously like someone to prove me wrong on this topic. Whether I will ever believe we can get along or not is another story.
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Yes! I agree whole heartedly. I'm sorry to you've been attacked just because you eat meat, those are the vegetarians/vegans I do not approve of -__- I don't care if you eat meat or veggies to be honest; as long as you are a nice person that's all that matters to me ^^
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like physically attacked? o.O DAAAAAANG
I like this stamp. if i did it, i would have to also add... "it just means we can't eat together"
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Besides, the vegans who are diet-Nazis are hypocrites. I say that because both animals and plants are living things, and they are both necessities for us to survive. On the other hand, vegetarians, vegans, and omnivores can still get along very well.
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I don't agree... 'cause animal torture is a problem worth fighting for. Vegans are aware of the seriousness of the subject - empathy makes them suffer deadly - and can't simply accept that a *friend* willingly blinds himself on a horrendous, planet and human-killing system. ('cause meat doesn't only kill cows, pigs and poultry, but also destroys forests, underground water reserves, and asks for all the cultivable ground that could feed poorer populations.) Of course all of you omnivores would love it if all your taste pleasure could go without any kind of reproach. so convenient to be blind... being vegetarian at the least is not a matter of choice, but of necessity, for soon all the cultivable land will be occupied and dried dead by the plants used to feed the animals that we grow and kill for our greed on meat. Don't you think this is worth a rethinking...
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This is a very old stamp. I'm not sure where you saw the need to rant at me, I'm friends with plenty of vegans, vegetarians, all the sub categories, and meat eaters, but if any of them talked to me like this, I would definitely never speak to them again. I'm sorry that you feel the need to assault my comment section with that really crazy bile that you're spewing. Seriously. I don't know what someone did to you, but you don't seem all there.
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Please don't accuse me to be insulting or an extremist, for I am neither of them. And that bile that yes I DO have is nothing like crazy. Meat eating is freaking not a matter of choice, especially not today when this industry (not even speaking of HORRENDOUS animal treatments it implies) kills our planet alongside with all those other roundup/GMO and oil selling assassins. It is a matter of necessity for survival. And at the rate things go, the planet ecosystem might be definitely destroyed before we have enough vegans to counterpart the environmental disaster caused by the meat eaters on whose consummation the ravaging industry sustains. And stamps like this make the change even harder to progress. I was hence making the point that I do not agree with your message, considering that one who thinks his personal tasty pleasure is above the interest of the WHOLE rest of the planet, could never be friends with me. Now don't tell me I am meaninglessly raging over a pointless matter, and rather think of what is it you could do to help this dying world survive. If you still consider that I am your enemy after I merely tried to open your eyes on the horrific truth, then....
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Lydween, I understand your zeal and exuberance behind your reasons for your choice to be vegan; they are commendable and respectable.
That having been said, you are never going to convert one single person by an unsolicited verbal offensive. You're only going to bore some people, offend others, and turn almost all of them completely off to even considering your point at all.
WolvenRemorse and I were once assailed on the street by someone looking for support for gay marriage, an issue that she and I both feel extremely strongly in favor of. However, this person's attitude and tactics were so offensive and overbearing that they only succeeded in annoying us greatly. While we already agreed with them, their attitude could easily have swayed us *against* them simply by their ignorant manner had we been neutral on the topic. This is all you're doing.
You may not see yourself as insulting or extremist. Trust me.. you are behaving as if you are both, whether you want to be or not. Your unspoken implication that WolvenRemorse is ignorant of the issues is offensive and insulting; I assure you that she is not only aware of reasons for veganism, she supports the cause in theory as a PERSONAL CHOICE for every individual.
Here's a tip, one I have learned myself through years of experience. Rather than attack with catchphrases, which is no better than Fox News, simply offer links to information that will make your point in a reasonable, intelligent, non-hysterical manner. You're going to draw more bees with sugar water than with vinegar spray.
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I totally agree with your comment Banzai - I would be much more interested in what this person was saying if they had references from respectable sources and unbiased documentation, but only if they approached me asking if I was aware of the issues, not outright assuming I am not, and not going right into fight mode instead of bringing it up as discussion. I am much more attracted to talking about things and maybe changing my way of thinking when it isn't assumed I am an idiot and treated as if I am beneath my debate opponent.
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You're doing it again. Do you realize this, this right here, is very extreme, and crazy, behavior? I'm sorry, and I hope you seek the help you need, I found a helpline website with all the phone numbers you might need: [link] I hope you feel better.
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Lydween's comments fall under DA guidelines for harrassment; just a thought.
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for me its the other way around XD
I eat plants and my bestie eats meats ;u; lol
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I made one of those too
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Exactly! 
I don't eat meat, but I won't force others to give it up.
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Sorry, but we can't. For Me, your Food is like that of a Cannibal and you couldn't be friend with someone who kills humans, could you? It's exactly what you seem like to Me, a murder! Not meant to be offensive or insulting, but Friends is something we could never be as long as you kill Animals ( which in my eyes are worth as much as Humans are ). That's it, to be Vegan is not a choice in food, neither in Health. It's a choice not to Kill or Use Animals, not to Eat or Wear Animals, but to Love and Respect Animals. Eating Meat is truly a Choice in Food because it can not include Philosophical, Ethical, Health or Ecological Reason, it's all about Taste ( while most Vegans doesn't like to Eat Plants, they do to save Life, not because of different likes ).
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which is a lie. You're indirectly responsible for the animal holocaust. I don't refer to it as a holocaust because it's exactly that, but because it's the same organised form of mass murder, crueler than the actual holocaust.
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Be honest, isn't it? The victims of the holocaust weren't born into suffering, they didn't endure as much as animals endure every hour of their life. Hell, even the camps offered some place for the victims of the holocaust. They worked themselves to death, which is what animals are forced do every hour. You don't seem to know anything about livestock animals' life. Do you really think it doesn't matter because these are animals? Even Adorno, a Jew recognised the animal holocaust saying Auschwitz begins where someone looks at them and thinks they're just animals. It doesn't matter if humans have relatives or histories, the suffering they endured is exactly the same. We feel the same, therefore feelings like pain should be taken into consideration, not humans only.
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Which isn't better taking into consideration the animals will to live and the plenty of alternatives you have. This is a moral issue.
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Yes, they do. But I consider morals a necessity, especially when it comes to the ethical treatment of animals. As an example I wouldn't ignore someone killing a human thinking that his morals may differ. Would you? I consider the choices you have, then I consider the animals will to live. Then again I consider the circumstances under which these animals live. Do you really need a law telling you not to act cruel towards animals?
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These aren't morals. Animals are like senile humans or children, they follow their instincts, but deserve to be taken care of. Pigs on the other hand are very intelligent, but we consider them food. Would we consider dolphins food, too? I want meat farming to end, it's a relict of times we didn't have other choices. The laws of nature preach that the fittest survive, but that's not the case anymore. We take care of our sick, old and children, which led us to overpopulation, but didn't encourage us to support war, slavery or illness, which would decrease it. I know what you mean, but I can't support it, because I truly feel empathy for sentient beings. I want to abolish the exploitation of animals wherever it continues as a form of oppression. We'll have to consider animals to end unnecessary suffering, everywhere and for everyone. Nature doesn't prevent us from doing so, this is a naturalistic fallacy.
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You've reached the point where you don't have any argument, therefore you point out that. Humans are animals, but we question our habits, instincts etc. Feeding children vegan isn't unhealthy. Do you buy the media bullshit? The ADA proved there's no problem as long as you keep it rich and that's not difficult. Children who died of a "vegan" diet died mostly of malnutrition, raw food or because their parents were thinking as naturally as you do - let's feed them without supplements and shit like that. Get your facts straight!
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Saying "it's how nature made us" is a naturalistic fallacy. You're in fact not questioning your instincts if you accept natures cruel laws whilst there are other alternatives. It's not a matter of diet, but rather a matter of animal rights. I don't care what you eat, but I do care about animals, which are your main food source, which is wrong. I'll say it again: nature didn't specifically decide for us to eat animals. Being humans with intellect we're in charge of our nature. We were also meant to defaecate the seeds of fruits we eat on soil for them to grow, but you won't see people do that. We're not meant for anything if there's a possible alternative and veganism is a possible alternative. I guess future generations will accept it and overcome the unnecessary suffering animals have to endure for us. I kindly ask you to look the term naturalistic fallacy up, because it seems you didn't get what that means. Nature doesn't create laws for us to live by, we rather have the ability to choose between two possible ways. But your choice is cruel and mine benefits animals as well as humans and the earth as a whole.
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There are jerks and saints on both sides. Hope you'll run into some nice vegans too. If you ever come to sweden, stop by my place and I'll bake you a vegan pie!
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i'm vegan and hate vegans who attacks other people with us ideology
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I don't see why diet of all the things, should seperate people.
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this is soooo true. im a meat eater at heart, but i have some good vegan friends too
they just need to get they shouldnt guilt trip me into being a veggie eater.
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mansonxbitch:
i mean no offence, just open curiousity, but...
my family for 3 generations live a balanced diet. fruit, greens, veggies. but our meat is mainly buffalo, elk, boar, rabbits ect. and iv digested easily raw meat (i didnt realize it was raw)
anyways, over the generations our k-9 teeth have grown quite large and have to be filed down. around the time our wisdom teeth get removed.
can you explain what evalution is doing to us please?
we are all perfectly normal people, we just have annoying canine teeth and have stronger stomachs i guess.
open curiousity is all.
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THIS IS IT! The omnivores and vegetarians should be the friends and respect each other's choice.
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Personaly, I've got NO objections about eating meat!^^ Go carnivores!
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I love your stamp.. and meat~*__*
Even if I never had problems with hypocritical vegetarians or vegan til now, I guess that day will come.xD
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Lmfao. Meat is yumyum.
Thanks, and I hope you don't have to. >_<
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