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Published: 2009-01-22 05:21:27 +0000 UTC; Views: 2685; Favourites: 42; Downloads: 135
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Description Ok, I was REALLY bored tonight and didn't feel like doing much, so I decided to doodle. This is the result of 2 hours of doodling, the much reworked (I redrew the chest about 8 times...) redesign of the Adeptus Arbites full gear from Warhammer 40,000.

My goal with this was to make a modernized version of the old "Judge Dredd" design for the Arbites' equipment, and I think it came out rather well. Oddly it features all of the elements of the previous designs (Visor goes up and down, targeter over right eye, lots of layered armor designed for riot suppression, and of course a shotgun.). I'm especially happy with the way the Shotgun turned out.

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Ok, finished it. Fi
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Comments: 23

Shade-os [2014-03-21 12:26:14 +0000 UTC]

I AM THE LAW

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jorgeelmuerte [2009-09-12 18:26:28 +0000 UTC]

'' You will respect my authority!!''

9/10

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magicswordz [2009-02-03 02:41:17 +0000 UTC]

i like it
it is small, compact. looks like it has good maneuverability
i dono... maybe it is just the angle but the shotgun looks a bit... too thin or too long... i don't know
but that is just being picky~

otherwise, just finish the legs and your good

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WordBearer In reply to magicswordz [2009-02-04 03:35:50 +0000 UTC]

Nah, its not too long. It needs to be at least a 16 inchs long in the barrel to be able to accommodate 5-6 shells.

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magicswordz In reply to WordBearer [2009-02-04 04:07:31 +0000 UTC]

oh well

maybe it is the sight thing on the top that is messing with me

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WordBearer In reply to magicswordz [2009-02-04 05:21:11 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, its just you

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Proiteus [2009-01-25 17:37:57 +0000 UTC]

Another dog joins the ranks of the doomed imperium

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WordBearer In reply to Proiteus [2009-01-25 19:39:13 +0000 UTC]

Oh, wait until you see the completed version of this pic, it will blow your heretical mind apart.

And on May 2nd a new dawn will rise and we will scour the galaxy clean of your filth with faith and fire and sword.

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Proiteus In reply to WordBearer [2009-01-25 19:47:12 +0000 UTC]

I doubt that Imperial dog for my Machine cult is growing more popular with every development I make.
Soon I shall be ready to launch my campaign against the imperium and liberate humanity from it's oppressors.

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WordBearer In reply to Proiteus [2009-01-25 20:06:49 +0000 UTC]

Your "Liberation" is merely a form of enslavement which will bring about the death of mankind and the ruination of all that is. It is only in the Emperor that we may find purpose and salvation, for it is only through his wisdom that mankind will emerge from the present darkness into a new age of light, reason, and faith.

Blessed be His name...

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CrabTasterMan In reply to WordBearer [2009-01-26 04:28:23 +0000 UTC]

I wonder if your statements really are what you believe in, or just being a faithful fan and blowing the fluff wars again.

What is that several trapezoidal aqueduct-like archways running on top of the gun? I've seen it elsewhere but dunno what they do.

The body armor is faithful to the overall look of the Imps and their Kasrkins. GJ. In fact this guy doesn't give a different impression from a kasrkin, at least, IMHO. How similar/distinguishable should an Arbites be?

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WordBearer In reply to CrabTasterMan [2009-01-26 15:03:07 +0000 UTC]

Oh I'm just a really devouted plan who doesn't believe in the fluff really as factual, at least thats what I tell people so they never suspect the truth. Soon the conversion will begin...

Anyways, the "trapezoidal aqueduct-like archways" thing is the sighting apeture on the top of the gun. I took it from the current designs for SM shotguns and all the older Arbites shotguns, but honestly I really can't justify the design. Holes like that are usually used to vent hot air from the barrel to help cool it off, but in this design they aren't necessarily too well placed for that. Thats the only realy justification that I can give, so think of the design as having a bunch of holes on the top to help cool the barrel during firing and that they are all interconnected by that bar and the metal uprights of the arches.

As for distiguishability, they should be very distinguishable as they serve a different role. Once I get the full picture done you'll se what the helmet looks like with visor down, which is more unique from the Kasrkin. Actually I'd argue that while it has armor in just about all the same locations that this design is VERY different from the Kasrkin in how it actually goes on the body, I'll do some design sketches of it later too.

I finished my model project yesterday (another pyces, bringing me up to 4.) so I'll work on this today.

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CrabTasterMan In reply to WordBearer [2009-01-31 17:16:11 +0000 UTC]

do they HAVE to have the helmets? I can't help but think those visored helmets will only make them look like Calo Nord or whatever that bounty hunter in KOTOR's name is. That appearance of a saucepot/kettle head would srsly cut down on the departmento Doomus et PHEARUS. You can take some creator license and have some of these arbites in action without helms, for you know, better characterization and recognition. Isn't that why Rine Sarges have no helmets? You'd think with their need to use their chainswords they'd need better protection to get closer to the enemy... Unless they are never meant to do the real fighting but just lead and defend himself from sneaky melee attackers that try to kill the enemey COs. (is that why sarges have less weapons than the grunts?)
oh and cuz they kick so much ass so they don't need helmets... or so the commonly stated half-assed explanation goes.

Have you ever drawn any other 40k species than humans and nids? Tau, Eldar, Ork, Necron... I don't think I saw any of these from you...

And how was your week? what news of your military branch recommissioning? (if I can call it that)

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WordBearer In reply to CrabTasterMan [2009-02-03 14:45:41 +0000 UTC]

I have drawn some orks once, but your right that I normally haven't tried doing the other species in a few years.

As for the helmets, the Supressors (SWAT dudes) wear helmets, the Enforcers (Street Cops) usually don't. I'm trying to do a design montage for the whole "product line" of Arbites so you'll see the updated designs for the Enforcers and everyone else soon. I have a neat idea for the Dictators (Judges) around the theme of "the facelessness of justice".

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CrabTasterMan In reply to WordBearer [2009-04-09 15:12:08 +0000 UTC]

I just saw ancient models of Arbs. Man, they look... so IMP.

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andrewtheh [2009-01-23 03:41:41 +0000 UTC]

Very nice, and love the shotgun!

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underclocked [2009-01-23 03:02:04 +0000 UTC]

I never really liked the whole Judge Dredd design in the first place, granted it's a cool comic and a really shitty movie. This design is very urban combat style with what looks like can be easily upgraded to riot armor.

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Scythexv8 [2009-01-22 08:43:26 +0000 UTC]

You know, this is an excellent design. All of the apparatus is extremely realistic and you're right about the shotgun; it's simply beautiful. This is much more inspiring than the designs you see on the models and the comic books. My hat's off to you friend.

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WordBearer In reply to Scythexv8 [2009-01-22 14:58:13 +0000 UTC]

ty

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CrabTasterMan In reply to WordBearer [2009-01-31 17:24:06 +0000 UTC]

oi lookit this.
[link]
Someone said this weapon is highly impractical. What parts make it so? Asking from the expert.

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WordBearer In reply to CrabTasterMan [2009-02-03 01:15:58 +0000 UTC]

Well I'm not really a weapons expert, I just have a lot of practical knowledge with basic firearms and some armor systems.

That said, there are 3 main reasons why this weapon is extremely impractical. They are:
1. The Center of Gravity is WAY too far forwards, especially while loaded. This will cause the weapon to want to dip forwards, straining the muscles in your arm to hold it up and severely decreasing your accuracy. Note that while this will help to absorb the force of the recoil somewhat it will more than be offset by the additional muscle fatigue in reducing accuracy.
2. It will overheat if fired on automatic. The tiny barrel, aside from reducing accuracy even further, will not disperse heat well and will overheat and either melt or start cooking off rounds in the chamber (Making the weapon fire uncontrollably.) if not both. There is also no way to remove the barrel, meaning that when this happens you cannot simply switch to a new barrel.
3. It has no practical sights and cannot be aimed, only pointed in the general direction of the target. The only place to mount sights on the weapon is too high to be practical as you would have to drop the weapon too much to aim through the sights. This coupled with the rather uncontrollable recoil on full automatic and unbalanced weight would make it virtually impossible to fire this sort of weapon accurately beyond 10 meters.

On the whole, while it looks cool you'd be a dumb ass to use this in a fight, I'd take a bolt action rifle over it any day.

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CrabTasterMan In reply to WordBearer [2009-04-09 15:10:33 +0000 UTC]

What does a "bolt action" mean?
"bullpup"?
I never understood how one could see through a scope mounted on TOP of a gun, use the sight/cross in the scope, center it on a target, and shoot from a barrel that is located UNDER the scope, and manage to hit the target at where the sight was centered on. How's this work?

And shouldn't the scope be much less practical than what gets spoonfed by FPSs, because the bullets get pulled down by gravity? good for general ranged aiming but at far distances bullets hit lower than what the sight was centered on?

Btw, do you know where I can go to learn, as a beginner, how weapons work? Or do you know a weapons expert I can contact, on dA or maybe even outside dA?

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WordBearer In reply to CrabTasterMan [2009-04-12 16:38:26 +0000 UTC]

Go to a wikipedia. To answer these questions:

1. Bolt Action refers to an earlier loading and firing mechanism for firearms in which the user manually unlocks and opens the breach by manipulating the bolt, usully via a handle. These weapons can be magazine fed or loaded by hand with the bolt open. When the bolt is opened the hammer is also pulled back and cocked so that as soon as the bolt is moved forwards and locked the weapon is ready to fire again. These weapons were the staple of military arsenals from the late 19th century through world war II, though they have been almost entirely replaced by gas powered automatic weapons today. In contemporary settings the only roles that bolt action weapons currently fulfill with most armies is that of a sniper rifle as they tend to be extremely accurate at long range. The first full scale production military rifle to use this mechanism was the German "Needle Gun" in the Franco-Prussian war at the turn of the 20th century [link]

2. Bullpup refers an alternative design of a weapon in which the magazine and the entire firing mechanism and chamber are all moved behind the pistol grip and trigger. The first full production military rifle to use this configuration was the British SA-80 Enfield [link] The main advantage of the bullpup configuration is a decreased overall length of the weapon without decreasing the length of the barrel, allowing for accuracy to be maintained while making the weapon practical for use in close quarters. The main disadvantage is that the odd configuration makes these weapons take considerably longer to reload than a more traditionally designed assault rifle. Bullpups are one of the most widely debated forms of modern weapons, with some militaries loving them (Damned Australians...) and others absolutely hating them (US.). The British, Australians, and French armies use this configuration for their standard rifles.

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