1yuki1 [2014-07-15 03:26:32 +0000 UTC]

hi, i noticed that after i upload and go to edit it there a check box that says Notify your watchers at the bottom, above the update button and to the left.

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DaffoDille [2014-07-14 19:33:33 +0000 UTC]

Why is it so much harder to get exposure these days? It hit me hard and I still don't really get it. :C

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nati11184 [2014-07-14 14:42:17 +0000 UTC]

Lately there happened lots of glitches, but I think now it's over.

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Stegoraptor [2014-07-08 17:46:17 +0000 UTC]

sorry to hear about this. i wasnt really around when it was more popular like you said, so i don't really know what it was like. but i guess that this is affecting me cause i have like 12 followers and like 5 comments on everything

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ThorinFrostclaw [2014-07-02 18:46:38 +0000 UTC]

I haven't noticed any recent DA changes...I can only recall the one change to which Deviation types are displayed on the front page a few years ago.
Also, the "1 view Deviation" sounds like a bug. For someone with a watcher count like yours it's pretty impossible...maybe next time you have one of these, post it in your journal and ask if your watchers received the notification?

However...I've noticed that no longer that many people comment on pictures (of popular artists) as years ago.
Why? I don't know...fav&run has always been popular, since people are just too lazy to comment. However, communication is very important, if not the most important thing - how else shall we know that what we do is "right"? A fav? No, no a fav won't do...it won't tell me what I did right or what I did wrong.
Not sure about the user numbers, have they lowered too? I guess so.  I've tried out a few other sites, but DA still has the best possibilities to come across unknown artists. :/
(good browsing/sorting, clean message center, GROUPS.)

Personally, I've started being active within the community. Joined a few groups, actually check out the submissions and comment on them (especially on the ones with less comments.), interact as good as I can with my watchers and generally everyone I come across and my views, comments and favs are rising.

I'm not sure how "active" you are, but I've seen popular animal artists fall down to basically unknown because they don't interact.
For me, if I notice that my comments don't even get a small "thanks" I'll stop commenting after a while and focus on the artists that interact with me, same with watching. If I can't get the feeling that my input is appreciated, I'll stop and use my energy for the ones that show appreciation.

I wish you good luck figuring out how to deal with this! You photographs are very lovely! :>

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Sarah-L-S [2014-06-26 18:19:30 +0000 UTC]

Your photograthy has always been great! At least while I've been watching you! Its actually deviants like you that got me into photograpthy to begin with when I was a young teen and I'm trying to get into it again. I took some more photos today [I wont upload til the weekend though as I went a bit overboard] but I probably never would have developed this hobby to begin with if it wasn't for deviants like you.

As a suggestion you can still post here but perhaps you could also see if there's any photograthy sites you can join? Where you may also be able to get more money or even just to get your name more out there.

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animallover1990 [2014-06-23 19:35:15 +0000 UTC]

heres one of my best photos that you have inspired me to take animallover1990.deviantart.com…

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animallover1990 [2014-06-23 19:28:13 +0000 UTC]

i know how you feel, i usto get lots of faves and comments but now i rarely get much of anything. im one of the many people who stalk your account. im also almost never on da anymore. im now usually found on fawere im actually getting some views on my photography. and even a few critics which are helping a bit were on here ive been yelled at by some punk kid to remove the watermark from my photo's. i dont know if they wanted to steel my pictures or not.

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Spektriva [2014-06-20 16:33:13 +0000 UTC]

I've been your follower for some time, and have always loved your work. I'm an animal lover, and admire you for your skills at capturing such beautiful creatures in such light, so it saddens me greatly to know this is happening to you. And don't worry, you're definitely not whining! It must be very demotivating working so hard to improve your own work and to deliver something better for your admirers, and then getting less feedback than before. I don't know how this system change affected everyone, as I don't post anything, but I really hope they fix this :/ You're a wonderful photographer and dedicated to your work, and even though I have no way of supporting your work with money (I am a student), know that you have one more dedicated fan right here

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Katy500 [2014-06-17 14:53:17 +0000 UTC]

Good to hear from you again Hope you're doing fine ^^

I don't think this is about a system problem here. What I think is that dA community is simply getting inactive and moving away to new sites. It seems to me the community is just moving to new sites and leaving dA, as if it was a thing from the past that as no more use anymore. I've seen a lot of people moving to FurAffinity, Weasyl, Tumblr and even Facebook.  I speak for myself, I publish drawings I'm really prond in both dA and Facebook, and I got a lot more views and faves on Facebook than on dA. To me, dA community like it used to me some years ago is just dead.
I'm not a famous artist. I've just above 300 watchers and I'm lucky if I have more that 10 faves in any of my drawings I spend hours working on, and I'm even more lucky if I get a comment. A few weeks ago I created a photo account to publish my photos, since I've acquired my very first camera not so long ago (gotta say, you where one of my inspirations and influences to start shooting ) and I have few to no feedback. I get 5-6 views and 2-3 faves per photo. I know my photos are still kind of crappy as I'm still learning and I still don't have many skills, but damn, a little feedback would be aprecciated. So as you can see, I may have a new account, but I don't have any feedback there either. It is not just the system, the comunity is just dying.
Let's be honests, we all draw/paint/take photos because we like, and not because others think it is cool. But damn, a litte acknowledgment for our work makes us feel just so good. Don't say to me you just draw because you like and you don't care if others notice you or not. We all like to hear that someone likes our work. It makes us feel good and gives us new motivation to keep going on.

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Blackwolfoffireworks [2014-06-17 01:25:34 +0000 UTC]

Do you comment less on other deviations than you did before? I know this is an odd question, but I notice that when I comment on a lot of deviations I seem to get a lot more views and feedback. Just a thought

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TheOddSusie [2014-06-15 15:06:48 +0000 UTC]

It sucks you're getting less money but I'm a little sad to hear that a part of you thinks that plenty of views are the most important thing. They're not. You should just do it because you love to, don't worry about statistics! You're talented

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Redd-Duct [2014-06-15 05:31:48 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry you feel so unmotivated about posting photos. Just know that here, on my end, I still enjoy your photos and your journals. I don't follow a person's journals very often, but I always found that yours still had fantastic photos and still had educational information in them. Also, I was always very glad to see your English improving!

I hope you do feel better about follower views because those who view them will always be loyal to you!

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8TwilightAngel8 [2014-06-15 01:18:03 +0000 UTC]

I have noticed the same thing, but initially i attributed it to inactivity and my absence due to school.

dA is trying to be more open to new artists and in the process they must have altered the site to a point where views are more "evenly" spread throughout the community (this is good, but also bad). Its possible even that general community interests have changed as dA has grown.

I understand the feelings you have. I tried an experiment with my latest photos after reading your journal (which in my opinion are some of the best i've taken recently). I posted them and submitted them to groups which i had only done occasionally in the past. My fave of the pics only got 13 favs, 5 comments (3 of which were replies) and 49 views. I submitted it to 4 groups, and am waiting on 2. The other only got 4 favs, 5 comments (again 3 are replies) and 45 views. Its in 2 groups.

Its really discouraging because you can't help but wonder: "what am i doing wrong?" Especially when you don't realize its the system and not you.

I really hope you feel better woxys! Hopefully things will balance out again in time^^

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pikachuafwc [2014-06-14 14:24:38 +0000 UTC]

Wow, those black wolves are absolutely beautiful animals! I especially love the ones with some white on them, like the wolf on the left in the second photo and the head-shot in the fifth one. Really they're all lovely, and I hope I get the chance you did to someday see them in person. I understand completely why you don't want to upload these photos to dA, but I'd love it if you did so that I and other deviants could see them in full view. I know for sure I'll be ing a few of them, if not all, if you re-consider.

I also understand that feeling... You're sad that something you were so excited to show your watchers and thought would get lots of comments, faves and views got really nothing at all. It's disappointing, and also it's very odd, and doesn't seem at all right... You feel cheated. And you have good reasons to. I do think dA has been making it so that we can't see some of you're photos, if what you say is true, because yes I've been seeing a lot of "This deviations has been removed". Those also might belong to Sooper-Deviant or thrumyeye though, because I'm also watching them. I don't know, either that or it's some sort of error, and I think you should maybe, if you haven't yet, inform the staff about it.   

Anyways, I do look forward to more beautiful photos from you, and hopefully this issue is resolved. I do hope that things get back to normal, and you get your usual amount of love from your watchers.

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lagenerala [2014-06-14 00:46:40 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry buddy.. A lot of us felt that way from time to time. 
You will find new ways to get yourself inspire and not so down. 
I sometimes don't fave your photos, I love them still and watch them when I have time. 

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IngloriousBunny [2014-06-13 18:31:09 +0000 UTC]

I hope you realize that your watchers are not obligated to fave your photo's or even view them. Also this journal does seem very whiny to me, you could have spent this time interacting with your watchers in a positive way by replying to some their comments.

PS finding deleted deviations in your inbox is pretty annoying.

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TheShadowflare [2014-06-13 16:38:21 +0000 UTC]

Its so stupid..... I enjoy looking at your shots... I do get all of them. Some are just absolutly perfects. some are cute. and some. Well.. are just good lookers. Now I don't go fave every photo I see but I do love all your beautiful shots you have. I never knew that DA changed the system. Whioch is annoying. Sad to see that you aren't getting your usual views per post. heck. I have posted a few things and the only views I've gotten where from the group I added it to... Hope things get better. 

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CoolCurry [2014-06-13 15:59:57 +0000 UTC]

I've really missed your journals! I would show them to my family members pretty often.

I don't really understand the new system, but it might explain why the number of favorites I get has dropped too. I'd assumed it was because I was less active or because my watchers didn't like the new art I'd been making.

It's a real pity that it's hurt you this much, but I'll still be looking at anything you write or post. From the responses to this journal, it looks like you have a number of steadfast fans.

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fenifire [2014-06-13 09:01:03 +0000 UTC]

you know what my dear? I didn't even realize there was a change in the system but when you pointed it out - maybe there is something going on I'll have to take a closer look
anyway! I'm still a huge fan of your photos and I'm cheering on you
like many of us here do we do care and we understand that you have your own personal life
so please take care and don't turn to a crazy person

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storm-key [2014-06-13 05:48:51 +0000 UTC]

I totally understand where you are coming from, only on the other end. I've noticed that some of my favorite artists' posts are not being put in my mail box and I will only find out about them if I go to their main sight. I've missed so many good pieces because of it, its driving me crazy. I think the system is only showing me new posts based off of what I've been randomly searching on the sight and its not cool.  
I hope you get your views up, because I 

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7purpletangerines [2014-06-13 03:25:27 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry to hear that. Honestly it should be upsetting to your watchers too, at least it is for me. I have a watch list for a reason - to appreciate and enjoy the beautiful artwork and communicate that appreciation, also to share some helpful critique, point of views, and new ideas back and forth on occasion. I really don't understand why they would keep deviations from an artist's watchers. No wonder why it seemed like people weren't posting as much. I wonder if there's something we can do to fix this...

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DarcblakWolf [2014-06-13 01:22:43 +0000 UTC]

I am very sorry to hear about what is happening to your work. D: While I cannot say I understand (As I have never had as many favs/watchers/etc.) I would be really upset and confused as well. You have amazing photography - I mean, just look at those black wolves! - And to hear your views and favs have randomly dropped is very disconcerting. I hope this problem gets solved soon - it's sad to hear a great artist like you being demotivated.

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SalivaAssassin [2014-06-12 21:39:16 +0000 UTC]

The same is happening for a lot of Youtubers, some really popular youtubers lost half of their 'fan base' However I do love your photo's you take amazing shots of wolves and It's amazing seeing some of them from their little pup-hood to adulthood. I look forward to the times I see you're photos as they are stunning and the things you learn from them are perfect.

I do get the "Deviation - No longer Available" and I assume that it was deleted and think nothing of it but if this is the reason then DA needs to get it's gears rotating and fix this problem soon.

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Whyte-Raven [2014-06-12 16:04:53 +0000 UTC]

As mentioned several times here, there keeps being the "unavailable" when clicking on alot of deviations and things not showing up for hours sometimes after they have been posted.
But personally what attracted me to you pictures is the personal stories you tell about the individual animals. For example, I saw one of your recent pieces "Daughter of a Legend" and I read her story, but I also went and read about Máša too. The species/subspecies information that you give in your pieces is very much appreciated (by me atleast) I always read them even when its an animal I am very familiar with, just incase theres something I don't know about them.

I hope you continue posting your work, as I do enjoy seeing it in my inbox. 

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pyro-helfier [2014-06-12 15:42:32 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry you are dealing with that.  I can only speak for myself that I am getting your pics to my inbox though some show up "unavailable"  I assume that is the ones you remove.  I think you may not be letting them sit long enough?  Sometimes I will be on DA refreshing my page and notice someone uploaded something new but it won't actually show up in my inbox for up to an hour later!  So maybe for some of your watchers by the time they get it it has already been taken down?  Also I think your photos are wonderful but being busy I sometimes won't get to them until there is a stack and when that is the case I will look at them all in my inbox but not actually visit every one unless it really REALLY catches my interest- nothing personal, it's just a timing thing.  I watch a lot of artists and am in a ton of groups and I don't always have time to visit comment and fave each piece even if I think it's good.  All your photos are lovely, I mostly just fave the super favorites of mine or else your whole gallery would be in my faves, I'd have to make you your own folder! lol Or it could be since you have soooo many watchers that some people feel like they'd be fave spamming you to death if they favorited every time you put up something new? IDK  If you feel like your audience has shrunk you could always try submitting to more/new groups to expand your fan base.  I don't know how they changed the system other than by adding the "unknown" search part, but the old popular page/front page is still there too isn't it?  Are people just not checking that anymore? 

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MoonFaerieStudio [2014-06-12 15:32:15 +0000 UTC]

I've been seeing "deviation longer available" alot lately and was wondering what's up with that since it was something just posted o.o I also think that there might not be an accurate count (like a glitch) kind of like how youtube video posts can have like several comments but "0" in views or some crazything like that, lol one time I was checking out the youtube suggestions and it said one of the post was done 135 years ago (one of pewdiepie's posts) I was like "LOL, he's been around for quite awhile" I had it screenshoted awhile back X3

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Icewingmoontigress [2014-06-12 14:43:31 +0000 UTC]

I love seeing all the new art but I get a lot of "this deviation is no longer available"s on pieces I would probably love to see. I get frustrated when that happens just about every day on my deviantwatch.

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Scintillant-H [2014-06-12 14:42:31 +0000 UTC]

Don't feel bitter.
I was presented with an interesting challenge recently that had me putting some of my characters from a story I'm writing against a vicious wolf to test the character's reactions. I had to draw a wolf in four different angles, and although I can do it, I'm not versed in the muscle structure of wolves. So I took to the internet to google some shots, but then I remembered your account.

The "story" behind the wolf being vicious with my characters was that he had a stomach ache due to gas. (XD yes, I'm weird) so he wasn't really "vicious" he was just annoyed and wanted to be left alone. The character who is usually "the fighter" gets in the wolf's face like a challenge, but one of the other characters rubbed his tummy to make him burp, and he felt fine, so they took a nap together Happy ending!
I needed a "growling" shot, a shot of the front legs from behind, a shot of being surprised (when the one character got in his face), and a shot of sleeping in a cute position.

I found the growling one on google, then I remembered your account, and pulled open the folder where I had saved some of your earlier works. I don't have internet at home, so I have to save things on a flashdrive and take it home. The other three shots I used and were so perfect for my needs I got from your gallery. Or... I think I did. I just went through your "wolf" gallery folder and didn't find ONE of the images I decided to use.
Now I'm not sure... I was certain, though... do any of these look familiar?;


The leg one might be hard to recognize, but it came from a shot of two wolves by a fence, one dark colored and one white. I'm certain the leg, sleeping, and ears-back shot came from your gallery, but maybe the deviations were put in storage-?
I was looking to credit you in the final product, though that's hard to do when I can't link to the images I drew from I still have them on my computer, if I can find them again.

Anyrate, yeah, maybe you're demotivated (I live in poverty, so I'm depressed almost every day--I understand) but you really helped me out when I needed wolf shots. I can't find them in your gallery, but I'm CERTAIN those three shots were there sometime. And they gave me what I needed Thank you.

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JWKS-photomancy [2014-06-12 12:48:31 +0000 UTC]

actually, I've been getting some "this deviation is no longer avilable" watch messages from your account lately, but I suppose those are the ones you deleted yourself,... how did the system change though? and how would it affect the number of views you get? I've seen some decline in activity on my Ratshaman account as well, but I thought it was just some seasonal "holiday-no time-can't watch" thing.... seeing as I am barely able to go through all my watch messages once a week at best...
on the other hand, they say too much popularity is harmful - that's a bright side you might look on

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Count-Phoenix [2014-06-12 08:24:58 +0000 UTC]

You have my total sympathy on all your points and I have just started shift working (6am-2pm then 2pm-10pm) so the tired bit hit home
yeah seems strange how it seems to work with favs and pageviews

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LuckyKoneko [2014-06-12 08:08:56 +0000 UTC]

I just realized I haven't seen any of your last 25 deviations... inbox issues, I think. I constantly get "this deviation is no longer available" or just too many messages and then I accidentally delete it...

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moonlightbird [2014-06-12 05:34:01 +0000 UTC]

Aww, welcome back Missed you, hope you are surviving Chat soon, take care

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Tiiria [2014-06-12 05:05:28 +0000 UTC]

I think dA doesn't count views from just a watcher's inbox. I look at everything I get in my notifications, and I know I'm not missing any, I just don't always click to see the bigger version because I don't have much time to use dA sometimes. I understand your feelings, though.

I think 30 minutes isn't long enough to leave an image up to judge how well it's being received, though. It seems dA's new system takes longer for a piece to get views and favs.

Those are some pretty beautiful wolves. I really like the first shot.

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Leonca [2014-06-12 03:44:55 +0000 UTC]

There haven’t been any changes to how watchers receive your art. If something is changing that, it must be a bug. You could ask people if they received a specific piece or not and file a bug report if they didn’t get it.

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Eastrider [2014-06-12 03:20:46 +0000 UTC]

Sadly I think deviantart has moved from "artist can show" to "viewers can find"... as ironic and contradictory as it might sound.

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hsoJ95 [2014-06-12 02:01:45 +0000 UTC]

It's not whining, it's now whining at all.

I must agree, I am seeing some strange things involving fav's and views with my images. The system seems to not favor getting a lot of fav's on individual images. For a comparison, I can put an image I made on imgur and in 1 day have 1000+ views and 10 - 20 faves. By comparison, my most popular image on here has about 15 fav's on it and that image has been up for a month. I'm not sure how the fav, comment, and view system works on here, as I am still quite new here, but it seems like it favors the uploader having to do self-promotion to get fav's and views on their image. This is different from imgur, which, no matter how good or bad the image is, puts the image on the front page for all to see. There are pros and cons of both systems though. Imgur favors quick fav's, comment, and views, but the drop-off rate, the amount of time it takes for your image quits getting views, is also quite high. Whereas DeviantArt favors slower fav's, comments, and views, but also has a much longer drop-off rate. 

The point of all this is, keep up your spirits! The more you get your images out there, the more views, fav's, and watches you will get. Maybe try putting your images on other platforms, like imgur or Twitter, to help get more people to see your images. I know there are some wolf, fox, and animal groups on Twitter, maybe try getting your images on there.

Just keep up your spirits and don't loose motivation! People like me and the other people that comment on your images love your images, thats why you were one of the first people I watched on here when I first joined. Your images show the beautiful side of creatures, like wolves, that still seem to be getting a really bad public image here in the States.
Keep making incredible images of these beautiful animals!   

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Agent36496 [2014-06-12 01:52:01 +0000 UTC]

I wish I knew. I didn't get many views or comments starting out. I don't get any more views than average now. I'm just disappointed that my art is barely seen, and that my writing is barely read. I always turn down poems and stories from watch messages of groups I'm in, except for those of people I watch. So, I find that other people from those groups, turn down my work as well. I'm very sorry if I missed any of your photos.

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Fyrepyromaniac [2014-06-12 00:34:20 +0000 UTC]

It is really getting on my nerves that people don't seem to be getting all the uploads to their in-boxes nowadays. I don't have the time to go through each and every person I watch every day to check for new pictures. I wish DA was more reliable! That, and people seem to be leaving the site in droves. =<

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JamJams [2014-06-12 00:30:32 +0000 UTC]

One thing besides the system change is a lot of people don't comment as much anymore, I know I'm very guilty of the fave and run, but its becoming more and more frequent. Anyways, I didn't even know they changed the system so I wonder why my art has gone less noticed than before. Such a shame.

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