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Published: 2007-10-19 04:19:30 +0000 UTC; Views: 692; Favourites: 15; Downloads: 0
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Recuerdos de preparatoria...Wyliman es inteligente, mas de lo que cualquiera quiera darle credito, pero realmente lo demostraria si, cuando quisiera provar un punto de vista, fuera menos estupido al hacerlo.
En defensa de los autores muertos, es que, si no es que todos, la mayoria de ellos esperan de antemano que sus obras sean tanto gustadas, como odiadas, aceptadas como rechazadas, esperan cualquier tipo de reaccion del lector. Desde el principio de la literatura (maomenos).
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Highschool memories...
Wyliman is smart, more than anyone will give him credit for, but he'd really show it if, when he tries to prove a point of view, he was less stupid at trying.
In defense of the dead authors, if not all, the mayority of them, expect beforehand that their work is as liked as hated, accepted as rejected, they expect any reaction from the readers. That, since the beginning of literature (kinda).
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Concuerdo con Wyliman en lo de los autores muertos... *escalosfrios*
No se puede debatir con ellos. Prefiero pensar por mi mismo.
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Igual en su defensa de los muertitos, sin sus ideas no podriamos pensar por nosotros mismos, la cosa es no basar todo lo que pensamos en lo que alguien ya dijo sin analizarlo.
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Hahahahaa!!! THa'ts where that quote came from!
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Yup, it's been quite a while that i wanted to do this strip.
Thanks for the fav man!
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But... dead people are the best kind of people to quote!
---AK
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Very cool, now heres a random Q, why do they both where the same out fit? if you don't minde me asking?
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Well, Wyliman started as a true loser superhero thing, he had some sort of powers, and so did Mackenn, but as time passed by, the story and focus of the comic changed, but i still liked the design, so i kept the outfits.
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PUES, yo creo que Wyliman tiene razon. Aunque sea un poco. Es verdad que hay mucha gente "culta" q van por la vida citando a gente y ni siquiera saben por q. A mi me parece que lo q Wyliman dijo esta bien dicho. Ya es hora de que dejemos a los muertitos en paz.
Yo veo a Mackenn y a Wyliman como las representaciones de los cultos mediocres y del vulgo que nadie reconoce cuando esta en lo cierto, en esta tira na mas.
Por cierto, me acabo de dar cuenta q este par van por la vida vestidos de super heroes cuando en realidad no hacen nada xD- si esto despues de 136 viΓ±etas. :B
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El problema con Wyliman es que no sabe decir las cosas, en este caso, vio su oportunidad de ser sarcastico y la tomo, pero en realidad, no es la manera apropiada de provar su punto de vista. El tiene razon, la verdad nadie quiere que se le este remarcando si es ignorante o no basandose en opiniones en teorias o filosofias agenas a uno.
Me alegra mucho que lo veas asi, porque es presisamente lo que trato de reflejar.
Ahhh, espera a la siguiente tira, voy a tratar exactamente ese tema (bueno, mas o menos)
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En este mundo en el q vivimos, me eh dado cuenta q la unica manera para que la gente te tome en cuenta es si usas el sarcasmo sabes? Les cae el veinte de q los tomas como estupidos y aunq sea pa contradecirte sirve. Por eso insisto q Wyliman dijo lo correcto aunq por un segundo y sarcasticamente.
Whee soy vidente viteh?
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Exactamente, aunque, lo ideal seria ser sarcastico Y tener los fundamentos apra no quedar como menso. En un amplio contexto, tiene razon, solo necesita mejores palabras.
Jaja, eso veo.
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Es q si fuera menos menso, seria menso Wyliman..
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Hahaha, very very much!
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I like those lines you put on the clothes.
I'm so sad for the tv...
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Ok, Mario, so now I, as a person that has a good background in literature, have to disagree. "Thinking for yourself" ans "quoting dead people" are not opposite things. In fact, most of the things "thought by yourself" have already been said by one of those "dead people", you're just ignorant enough not to know it. Without some knowledge from the "dead people" you're unable to "think for yourself". Bear that in mind.
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Yep, that's completly true, i know it perfectly.
I remind you that Wyliman is the one that's saying it, and in the context, he's just saying that on despite of what Mackenn has told him over the time, so it's bound to sound exaggerated and most probaly, wrong.
As much as this is a semi-biographical thing, not every single thing he thinks or says it's what i think.
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Still, the fact that you defend yourself, means that you're guilty in some way 
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I'm guilty because i'm the guy putting those lines in his mouth. I perfectly know that without the "thoughts" of the past we can't think in the present.
But it fits the character. You won't expect Wyliman to really come up with a life revealing theory that it's accepted by everybody, it's not his character. Like it's said in the description (and notorious all over the comic), he's really dumb when he tries to be smart, like the "growing up" strip, like with this one, that's *not* the way of seeing and saying things.
And it's the only way he'll learn with time, like everybody does at some point of their lives, he, just take quite longer.
Arrogance and ignorance are never good together, that's very true.
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Problem is, that Wyliman words are some kind of general thought of most of "intelligent" people. Another point that people often confuse bravery and arrogance with real intelligence and knowledge, so he may pass with it without noticing it's bad.
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Exactly, you got it correctly! That's what Wyliman is, this guy that is completly unaware of what he says is said by despite (of the moment, or of accumulated things like in this one), he is smart, he has his moments, but he is dumb at trying to prove it and ends up looking like an arrogant ignorant like this time. As you wish, he will learn his lesson sometime, but hey, i just got 10 panels to tell a story
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I guess being smart without knowing it, means he's not smart at all.
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Not really, he can be, he just doesn't really care if he is or not, he's just who he is, it doesn't takes or adds anything to him if he recognizes it or not. And being Wyliman he would probably spoil it (or make him less Wyliman for that matter).
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Which kinda means, you can't do anything with this character really... he has to behave the way he does, because otherwise he won't be Wyliman anymore. Silly comics with their non-developing characters.
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Wow, Wyli got brains!
Seriously, that's a real cool speech he made there. Guess Mackenn still wants to be known as the "smart" one, though
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Yep, he can't tolerate if this guy that's supposed to be dumb, is right about something.
Still, Wyliman can be smarter at trying to prove his points.
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That's an interesting argument. I wonder if Mackenn is being closeminded to only quote authors without thinking for himself, or is it that he's just mad that Wyliman outsmarted him..
I'd mention the grammar error on panel three, but I've been beaten to it by quicker posters.
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A little bit of A, a little bit of B.
Corrected
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Well I'm sure he's openminded enough to correct that shortcoming.
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English, Second panel: "And still, we didn't had much"
Change 'had" to "have"
Anyways, I sympathize with Wyliman here. I am SO SICK of people quoting dead people like they're right no matter what. It makes no sense. Like this:
2 + 2 = MC2
*Dies*
I am now dead. And since I said 2 + 2 = MC2, that is automatically correct, no matter HOW logical the number 4 may sound.
Makes no sense.
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Thanks, i changed it now.
Yup, that's very true, maybe not that exaggerated, heh, but yeah, it has it's truth.
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Lol, not bad at all. In the dead authors' defence, pretty much all of our mindsets are based on what they have conceived and have set mainstream.
But it's nice to see that the very same "it's true because it's old" that authors were fighting against (be developing new ideas) is being used against them, and against Mckann.
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Yep, that's exactly right what you said.
Hehe, yep, that's also the point of this strip, very glad you spotted it
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wow, wyliman is really smart. he's just... ignorant! that's it!
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