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matoro98 [2016-03-02 13:15:17 +0000 UTC]
These are almost entirely unrealistic, also why the fuck does it need an oil pump?
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xparament In reply to matoro98 [2016-03-02 13:40:42 +0000 UTC]
hi, I agree that these are not very realistic. I draw them for fun and would not advise anybody to actually try and build them. The oil pump Idea was based on my sewing machine which sits in a bath of oil and has a small pump that spreads the oil around the machine to places that having moving parts. I think it would overall be a bad a idea to actually have that in a firearm, but it would also be nice to not need to oil all of the time and worry about rust.
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hexicateonline [2016-01-06 07:09:41 +0000 UTC]
I personally don't worry about the lack of iron sights; the name "R8 Supersport" implies to me that this is an extravagantly expensive precision sporting arm from some alternate future for hunting in some alien jungle (where you might need millimeter-wave radar to pick out your prey against the backdrop). If the camera fails, you cuss and grumble and go back to your base camp to have the robotic workbench built into the back of your luxury hover-SUV repair it for you while you have a latte.
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Ziggy-FoxCat [2014-10-08 18:47:09 +0000 UTC]
I just realized.
This looks slightly like a keyblade. OUO;
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caiobrazil [2014-09-24 23:04:11 +0000 UTC]
excellent art! but, no backup iron sights? while using a camera (!) as your main (and in this case only) mean of aiming your weapon? while also having the camera sitting really low and dangerously near the compensator and the subsequent muzzle flash when the weapon is fired? doesn't seem like a very reliable system.
also, i need to ask how the mechanism accomplishes rotation of the rounds. the P-90's system is not very complicated, but that's because the rounds sat in a horizontal manner; in your weapon, with rounds positioned in a vertical manner, things might get more complicated. the H&K G-11, for example, used caseless rounds and a big, space-consuming, complex mechanism worthy of swiss watchmakers.
www.hkpro.com/image/g11interna…
www.hkpro.com/image/g11open.jp…
about the oiling system, though i do not own or, for instance, have ever fired any weapon in my life, let alone disassembled or lubricated it, i don't think it would be necessary; the soldier/owner will have to disassemble and clean his weapon anyways, due to the simple fact that oil won't remove carbon fouling from your chamber, won't remove dirt from your gun, and won't replace worn parts by itself. furthermore, in the desert you generally don't want to lube your gun too much; fine sand particles can get impregnated in oil, then instead of lubricating your weapon you're clogging it.
but maybe i am thinking too much. the art is impecable, of very high quality.
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xparament In reply to caiobrazil [2014-09-25 12:34:16 +0000 UTC]
first of all thank you for your comment! I am very happy to get feedback and especially well thought out comments like yours.
now in my defence:
About the iron sights.... what can i say...you got me. I should have added some sort of backup plan. I have some military experience and I had three different optical sights over 3 years and i never had iron sights. However since this is a "dream gun" and the camera system is more prone to malfunction and loss of power... you are right to say it should have some backup sights.
About the compensator being to close to the camera.... Im not sure about that. the closer the camera is to the muzzle the better accuracy. In fact i am still thinking of some kind of way to see through the barrel of the gun like the way a reflex camera works. but i see how this design may be problematic because of smoke and soot that will get on the lens. maybe i should have made a compensator that directs the flash down away from the camera lens...or just put the camera under the barrel.
About the rotation mechanism i did not put much thought into that.... maybe i should have.
The oiling system is something i stand by with more confidence. I wanted the gun to have an oil system like that of my motorcycle or maybe even my sewing machine .Both have a system that circulates oil around the moving parts. Somebody said that heat maybe a problem and since i am not a thermodynamics expert i am not sure if that is really a problem...it seams to work in every car and motorcycle. I also imagined that the filtration system would clean out the dirt and sand and then you can easily change oil or just empty out the filter. if i remember correctly we once did a training exercise in the desert. There was a rumour that the m4 is designed to be at its peak performance after 2 magazines and i can say that we did not really have any problems up until the 6th or 7th mag that day. then the guns started to jam up and needed a few pushes once in a while. its true that the gun would need to be closed so that dirt wont get in or hot oil wont spray out.
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caiobrazil In reply to xparament [2014-09-25 15:18:40 +0000 UTC]
true that. about the mechanism, i've got to say, i can't really blame you for anything; mechanisms of these tyoes, like the one used in the G-11, are damn complicated. i mean, very, very complicated. myself, i'd only give a bit more room for the stuff and keep it inside a "block" so i can call that the "rotating mechanism assembly" and not show what's inside that, simply because i'd not know
i see what you mean about the oil system. but in the desert, yeah, if fine sand or dirt particles come in contact with oil, the soldier using your gun could have a very bad day. if the oil system can be shut off so the gun can run un-oiled (if necessary) though, it wil not be an issue.
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xparament In reply to caiobrazil [2014-09-26 09:39:55 +0000 UTC]
yeah but then you are just lugging around a can of oil... now i really want to design a gun that can really actually work...but i feel like thats a lot of work for something people care a little less about.
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caiobrazil In reply to xparament [2014-09-26 15:35:07 +0000 UTC]
true that. i never draw the internals of the weapons i draw for a reason, and at least you did try.
by the way, it's not impossible to say there is some sort of mechanismon the right side of the weapon (so we don't see it, because it's disassembled) that rotates the rounds into position; it's just a bit hard. anyways, since you seem to have an eletronic optic system, it would not be difficult to add an electrically-operated mechanism to rotate the rounds into position for the bolt, and maybe even an electrical priming system (since your rounds are modified 5.56 ones, you could make the primer an electrically-activated one), thus doing away with the need for usual mechanism parts like a sear and hammer. so, technically, maybe it could work, looking back at it.
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xparament In reply to caiobrazil [2014-09-28 19:45:11 +0000 UTC]
yeah i guess i should pick either to show the mechanism and have it make sense or to not show it at all....
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caiobrazil In reply to xparament [2014-09-28 21:26:38 +0000 UTC]
that's not whart i mean, i'm saying you could just say the mechanism is located on the left side and thus can't be seen, or you could have the whole thing electronically-operated, thus doing away with most of the need for mechanical stuff.
i rather like the fact you actually showed the internals of the weapon, something i don't have the courage or skill to do. keep it up!
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caiobrazil In reply to xparament [2014-10-22 21:08:33 +0000 UTC]
i have once tried to draw (on paper) a firearm design that could work.
i gave up.
(actually, a few monthes ago i revisited the idea and drawned [does that word even exist?] a "submachinegun" that well, could probably fire a single round, but you'd need to use your forearm instead of your finger to pull the trigger, such was the simpleness of the trigger mechanism. it was the least complext design possible, an open-bolt blowback action, since it needs no complex triggers or even a bolt locking mechanism, but i suspect it would blow up after the very first shot)
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xparament In reply to caiobrazil [2014-10-23 13:42:34 +0000 UTC]
yeah someone i was talking to here on da said he would try to build a real working version of one of my guns... that would be really cool.
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Ziphos123 [2014-09-24 19:34:07 +0000 UTC]
That looks expensive. Don't see how the bullets go from the Mag to the chamber though.
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xparament In reply to Ziphos123 [2014-09-25 11:47:32 +0000 UTC]
yes its not cheap...most of the pieces are 3d printed so that brings the price down significantly. but you get what you pay for especially in firearms.
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Hoborginc [2014-09-24 16:34:07 +0000 UTC]
I like how the magazine makes efficient use of stock space, without introducing a protruding shape that could get caught on things. Unfortunately the things protruding from the butt reintroduce sharp and pointy things to an otherwise sleek design.
Is there a reason for making the trigger a complete circle?
How does the gyro stabilizer actually work? Is the barrel set in some kind of mechanical frame, so its position inside it is slightly moveable by the computer to compensate for frame wobble? Is the chamber firmly set, and the stabilizing system simply nudges the forward part of the barrel back and forth? Is it always on, or is it off by default (to save batteries) and the operator can activate it when necessary (taking a long-range shot)? Is the carry handle and its electronics package removable?
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xparament In reply to Hoborginc [2014-09-26 10:10:04 +0000 UTC]
thanks for the comment!
i agree with you about the protruding shapes. they really get in the way sometimes with all the straps and ropes they get caught on. the reason for the trigger being a complete circle is because i thought it would look cool. although i could imagine that pushing the other way on the trigger could also have some function like bolt release. I imagined the gyro stabilizer as that of a steady cam were all it does is eliminates the small shakes. all your ideas sound pretty cool but i did not really think it over that much. I think everything on a gun should have an off switch and maybe even off by default and only turned on when shooting over a certain distance because in close combat stabilizing may actually get in the way. I love the idea of being able to remove the top part however i admit that i did not think of it at the time...
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Woodgnome01 [2014-09-23 14:26:16 +0000 UTC]
Interesting design. Only question I have is I can't see how the rounds are supposed to rotate 90 degrees so that they can be fired.
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xparament In reply to Woodgnome01 [2014-09-23 23:34:20 +0000 UTC]
thanks! there is a mechanism there that is meant to rotate the round but I guess I did not make it clear enough.
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Apotheosi In reply to Woodgnome01 [2014-09-23 17:48:25 +0000 UTC]
not just that... how's it reload? i'm guessing the spent cases fly out from the right hand side we're not seeing..
not sure that if i'm the user, i'm comfortable with a small tank of oil next to the steaming gun muzzle either though... just a thought.
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xparament In reply to Apotheosi [2014-09-23 23:38:16 +0000 UTC]
hi thanks for the comment! I am guessing you are referring to the chance that it will burst into flames. maybe you are right but I think car engines get pretty hot and they have oil all over them.
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Apotheosi In reply to xparament [2014-09-24 07:06:53 +0000 UTC]
hmm.. maybe it could work better if the oil can was made detachable? insert only when you need the gun to be cleaned?
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xparament In reply to Apotheosi [2014-09-24 09:39:54 +0000 UTC]
yeah thats not a bad idea... or just only fill it up with oil when cleaning....but i guess that just adds extra weight to the gun.
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usoutlaw In reply to Apotheosi [2015-09-01 15:23:26 +0000 UTC]
so what about the ammo rotating?
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Apotheosi In reply to usoutlaw [2015-09-02 13:32:26 +0000 UTC]
easy... FNP 90 style magazine.
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