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It's been awhile since I did a stamp... or uploaded pretty much anything. But eh, my stamps usually come from frustration I've had.No, I really don't care what your religion is. You have the right to practice it and everyone should respect that. You think your religion should be involved in secular choices? I believe you are wrong, but that's your opinion. Opinions are not facts. However, factual information that can be proven are facts, whether you want to believe in them or not.
I have seen so many people reject the theory of evolution, or just science in general when it conflicts with their religion. I just don't understand. I know there's a stamp with "evolution is not a matter of belief!" and I'm cool with that, so I'll make this stamp broader. Whether it be evolution, the age of the earth, or whatever, that is SCIENCE. Not fake things through in by atheists to disprove religious worship. It's 2 + 2 =4. It can be tested, and proven with the tests. That is fact. You may say "but it's a theory, it's not a fact!" which is true. We cannot see a slideshow of our evolutionary history over the past millions of years. We cannot SEE it. That's what makes it a theory. Are there things we can use to prove links and connections? Yes. DNA testing, the mapping of the human genome, anatomical studies, carbon dating and so forth.
For anyone who doesn't have the simplest sense of biology I can understand why they'd be ignorant on the topic of evolution and seem why it could be a bit out there. But believe me, there is evidence. And you cannot reject that evidence just because your religion contradicts it.
Putting more of my own opinion here now: you CANNOT get your beliefs involved with secular affairs, such as public education. Part of me died when I heard an AP biology student complain that Darwin was taught because she doesn't believe in it. Part of me died knowing an AP bio kid in my class stated that he only believed in evolution "for school".
This is real stuff. This has factual evidence. You have the right to think what you want, but you cannot argue that there is no facts. And please, don't get it involved with secular affairs.
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and here is the evidence that there is more then one dimension to everything and of the importance of our ability to THINK over our ability to interpret evidence.... because if we did not THINK then we would be unable to look past our own delussion of having no choice, which is commonly known as science. i'm sorry, but if i am offered scientific proof that something that completely contradicts the purpose of my life and destroys the meaning of it, is reality, there is the red alarm and i am certainly not going to accept it. if i was dead i would but being that i am alive i won't. being that i am alive i have wishes and dreams and choice and am not only a machine that interprets facts that it's fed with. more important in life then science is being, truely, smart, smart to lead life in the right direction which in right hands can be wonderland and in wrong hands can be a post apocalyptic distopyan future. by all means, if all evidence points to the post apocalyptic distopyan future, let us go there, it must be right. its logical so it must be right, right?
i know nothing about biology because the first word it speaks disrespects all living beings. that should be fairly obvious to everyone but sadly, people apparently like to think that they are nothing but walking, programmable, meat. that all their life is a concequence of a chemical reaction, that they infact have no choice over what they are thinking but their body decides for them because it all comes from the body and they owe everything they are to their bodies. yes, that is the important knowledge you are learning. as for meds, don't worry, i don't need them nor the medical system and i don't owe it to the medical system, i'd be hanging in their institutions for all my life and depending on their meds if i listened to their advice. nowadays we have life improving meds and preventive medications even, cause ~living on meds is good for our health. that should be their catch phrase, i hope you can see the obvious, seriously, without much proof. and i eat whatever i like. i always have. i don't think that there are, microscopic, invisible germs on my plates either, when i wash them and they look clean, they are clean. and i never get ill. life is simple and beautyfull. the kind i wish for everyone. the kind that they want. and one of infinite possibilities. cause more important then science is heart. and science doesn't show to have a good heart when it accepts so litely and teaches a fact that we are all programmable meat. i respect myself so i don't think that of myself nor would i teach it to my friends either, because besides myself, i truely wish them happyness too and not suffering and pain, beleive it or not, my happyness is not built on it, i would not consider it happyness if it were. we all deserve to be happy and that is where science also fails to deliver because in the back of our minds we are thaught that only the strongest survive, yet everyone wants to be those strongest but there is no room for everyone. wrong, machines replicate on an assembly line so they are easily replacable and mostly care only about numbers but i know from personal experience the value of human life, something that i also can't prove nor do i have a reputable source to testify, except myself. only i can hope is that you are human and not a machine so that you can relate and so understand what i am speaking about. thus, it is clearly unfair for any life to be treated as meaningless. including and especially, your very own.
yes, it is good to think.
what is the meaning of life?
children, playing board games behind the closed door of their room and the carpet they play the board games on, at least to me. and the color of the walls, for example. and all their other toys. figurines on their wooden desk. and that peace they have, that place where they can be happy and dream and not worry about 'changing with changes' to a point where they are reduced to nothing. most importantly, nobody forced them yet they are still doing something extremely usefull. forfilling the meaning of life.
unlike some idiots that want to force understand everything - by controlling it because they have assembled something that somewhat works and think that because of that they have the right to play gods with life. like the stamp i see on the right:
'to deny people a right based on religious beleif is forcing them to follow these beleifs.'
modern science, much like modern religion is threatening the freedome of the world and that is why i hate it so much. but if you beleive that you are a machine then by all means, preach it. the word science much like the word god today doesn't mean anything, its all religion. and behind religion and behind science was just as well a lot of good intentions between the lines. and that is what matters. that what is invisible, that what drives the world in good direction. not the label, science or the label god, that can be misunderstood in so many ways.
i can say, hope. the most beautyfull, life and everything... THAT, is our guide, and what is worth beleiving in. love, happyness, true values, what matters to you. and to deny a child their dreams is not hope, its a lack of understanding of hope. it is easy to deny someone's dreams with who knows what reason why, you don't feel what they feel nor do you care to try so its easy. nor should you, because you are not them. and that is exactly what i am saying. we don't know everything, we should not force understanding of life, we should let life, live! and find a way to things that matter to us.
you can say that science can achieve that. well, no, it doesn't. good hearts achieve it, the concepts of science are just a tool. and there is a reason why it is ignored as well. and you may say that it is bad for us to ignore it. and how can you know that? maybe you are the one that is wrong. cause there is a reason why people ignore science. and that is because it doesn't speak the truth. again, because they are capable of thinking for themselves and trust me, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a person being able to think for themselves. we are not striving for logics in our lives but thowards the kind of lives we wish to live. if we were machines we'd strive for logics but you are wrong, we are far, far, better then machines, you cannot even imagine. we are living beings, we have created our understanding of science and we come from life, not from science, science attempts to understand life and fails, because power is not everything and never will be. all the imperfect power that science provides is just a tool but our imagination is infinite. and this computer i am typing on, didn't create people but people created it. and i am not typing on it because of science, if i did i'd be interested in the working of the processor in the tower and the current in my motherboard but i am more interested in the message i am sending. for as far as i care i would not mind if the computer worked on french fries so long as it provides me an interface to do this, what i want. and some day, something else might replace this whole system because it is not science really that matters like i said, it is only a tool, a tool i have no intention of allowing to enslave my mind. before that we used papers and sent envelops, before movies there were books and books were made from imagination which is the root of it all. science is good for inspiring imagination but it all is coming from people that are willing to find a way to realise their dreams, not from science. facts, we choose ourselves. it never mattered what is real, but what is right. that is the meaning behind all of your hope and life itself, without it you would be lost, no matter how powerfull your science might of looked like. science would be valueless without some hope that gives meaning to our lives, no matter how much it can accomplish. every piece of that hope, all that matters to us, the brightest thoughts, that kind of beleif, that is what we are supposed to be valuing. it is true that knowledge is power but it should not be limiting us nor should we limit anyone with it, nor should we ever forget that there are more important things in life then power, we seriously shouldn't.
and you can say that entire life is science, just like entire life is art. there are many ways to live, fishes swim, birds fly, digmoles dig.. and they are all right, even if they are different. there is no one correct way. for all you know, you could be just a fish in the water, stuck in your perspective and unable to see the birds in the sky.
what is the best for people is to be good hearted, beleive in and follow their dreams. and whether you are a painter, a scientist, a musician or an entertainer, or a painter that is also a scientist, doesn't really matter.
i've learnt from experience that it isn't good to always take things too serious. cause besides trying to survive exists also, life. and it is actually ment to be lived. thats what its there for.
these are facts too. so what exactly is science again? there are studies on art classes out there, to teach people how to draw. and there are those that are naturally awesome at it and that have something to teach the art classes. you can't really teach life how to live. thats a fact i suppose. it knows the best.
endless hope and infinity unites all life and that is why we should always beleive in it and not limit infinity of life with the finity of knowledge that is a mere tool for achieving just a piece of our imagination. like it was said, imagination is more important then knowledge. now imagine, how would you feel, if your incredible dreams were to come true? every beautyfull dreamer deserves that and if science could achieve that, the right way, i am all for it but i would still not praise science because it is just a tool that shaped the world into what it is today, but not that what defines my life. no, i don't live for science and i don't care for science, i care for love...
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Right, people only treat it that way sometimes. (or rather, they mix up "philosophical materialism" theory with the procedure of "science" )
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The next time I hear someone say "Well, I believe the evidence says [blank]!" I swear I'm going to scream like a little girl.
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Actually, it still is.Β
Because science is just science to me.
DonΒ΄t shoot me.
I am too intuitive to rely on science...
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No it isn't, as hypotheses can be proven wrong with evidence.
And you clearly rely on science because of the medicine keeping you healthy, the vehicles you use, the food you eat that doesn't contain viruses and the very computer you use to type that message.
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Oh. My. God. ...I don't even remember typing this stupid thing. Β
It's been a while...now. Over a year. And I strongly disagree with my own former statement. So, yeah.Β
What was I thinking?Β
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"Delicious coolaid"?
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lo se, todo es culpa de la psicΓ³pata que disfruta comerse a otras critaturas, aka silkenbitchs
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Very true! c:
The thing about science is it's founded on what we can demonstrate in reality. It's as true as we can get it and doesn't care if you believe in it or not.
You can be totally unaware of gluons for example but you still deal with their existence anyways.
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I don't think the issue lies in whether or not there is evidence, but rather in how the evidence is interpreted.
A jealous wife may deduce that her husband is cheating on her because she found a hair on his shirt, but in reality he just bumped into his long-haired metalhead friend at work. The evidence supports her theory, but in the end it was a misinterpretation of the evidence that led to her deduction.
Technically it can't even be considered a theory unless it is "well-documented" and "well-tested".
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I have seen so many people reject the theory of evolution, or just science in general when it conflicts with their religion.
Yet those are the same people who use all the technology provided to them by science, as well as atheists & gays (see: Tim Berners-Lee, aka the creator of the world wide web). They love what science gives them, but not the questions it asks about their bullshit fairy tales.
Evolution & science are not beliefs, either you understand them or you don't. And if one tries to debunk or criticize something they don't understand at all, then frankly I see them as no less of idiots as Kirk Cameron, Ken Hamm, & Ray Comfort (and these are some fine quality kind of idiocy in the world). This is also evident in those who don't understand what theory even means in science (to them: a guess). According to some of them, in order to be convinced that evolution is real (which it is regardless of what they say) one animal must shit out a completely different animal instantly; since waiting for an animal to actually change over a long course of years is too much.
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Actually I'm Catholic and evolution dosent really conflict my beliefs
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Another thing is when people say
"It's only a theory and if you can't prove it, it's not real!"
Well
Excuse me but
I'm pretty damn sure there's no solid "facts" to prove your God's existence either, no offense
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They also don't realize that the word theory has a different meaning in science.
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With all the psudo health, drug and product articles out there making science claims, it makes me wounder! XD
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Science is too big a village to make general exclamations like the above one about it.
Cosmology nowadays, for example, is more like metaphysics and a math-based theology than science.
Linguistics nowadays, for example, is arrived at that point whereΒ all we supposed to know is very unsure and conditional. For example, we can't define the concept "proper name" anymore.
Quantum physics turned to harm the ancient law of "Excluded Third". The theory contains logical contradictions, so by what norms could be it called 'science'? Even Von Neumann himself, who managed to establish the most up-to-date mathematical formalism of it (HIlbert spaces), wrote in a letter that he is very sceptic to it and "for some years, I can't believe in Hilbert spaces any more."
There is no signle branch or school of modern philosophy of science which would admit that sciences are the direct mappings of World Truth into our brains. Instead of these naive beliefs, modern metascience is dominated by sceptic schools like (simple or classic) constructivism, social constructivism, Strong Theory, knowledge sociology, feyerabendism, and so on.
Summary: Do you think science is no matter of a belief? You're wrong. You are the believer of the ideology called scientism. And no, you are not on the good side. Science is no matter of beliefs? Of course it is.
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I think this is more about proven science rather then
the more difficult quantum or metaphysical phenomena.
For example the existence of gravity, electro-magnetism,
atoms, entropy or refraction is pretty much definite and
not a matter of belief. People can have different opinions
on science but there's still a correct answer even if we
don't understand what it is yet. Even if the laws that
we've made surrounding the aforementionedΒ items are
not perfectly precise the things themselves still exist
regardless of what we think.
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"existence of gravity, electro-magnetism,
atoms, entropy or refraction is pretty much definite and
not a matter of belief."Β - the existence of gravity maybe is not a matter of belief, but yet the exact nature of gravity it is.
The existence of electro-magnetism or atoms are in themselves a matter of belief. for example, atoms don't exist that way like we often think them to be. "Atom" means "indivisible", and they were thought to be little balls moving around each other in the early 19th century. However, we all know that they are divisibleΒ they built up from little particles like protons and quarks. And we also "know" that they are not little balls, they are something between a ball and a wave. So the common concept of "atom" is just a mental constuction for something far more complex, for something we undoubtly doesn't understand fully, doesn't at all.
But if we doesn't understand something, we have no real knowledge about it; we got just hypotheses. And hypotheses are something we have faith in them. Yes they are the matter of beliefs; it is probable, ot at least very possible that scientists will believe very different things about them, considering those things that they believe about them nowadays.
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Atoms are devisable and are not just balls but they do still exist
whether or not you believe they do. The reason for that
representation of an atom is to simplify it and make it easier to
explain to those with less knowledge on the subject; if you head
straight into describing electrons as excitations of a quantum
field, barely anyone will have a clue as to what you're going on
about. Even if they're not exactly what we currently think them
to be, these things exist, we've seen them, they are still there.
I agree that the nature of the existence of such things can be to
an extent subjective but the very fact that they exist in one form
or another is truth. It's the same with anything really, take
christianity for example, me believing in it won't make it any
less true or any more false, the universe cares not about opinions
and caries on regardless. Your faith and beliefs onlyΒ affects your
actions and subsequently matter in the universe but not the laws
that govern it.
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Well, it's not the absolute truth either.
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True. There is no such thing as absolute truth.
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yeS IT IS LOLL I BELEIVE IN THE GOD OF SCIENCE NOW STFU <33
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help me
SCIENCE GO DΒ
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i'm of catholic faith, but i love science because of how it shows the workings of our every day world. i grew up studying chemicals, biology, that kind of stuff, and if anything, it doesn't contradict my faith but creates a beautiful reinforcement of how much love and care god put into the world. it's a little weird for me to explain sdlfjkg
but yeah! on the subject of evolution and intelligent design, that's something that's still a bit of a gray area. however, i'm of the mind that both theories are correct in a sense (read: big bang theory) and so on and such.
anyways the point is!! science is science and faith shouldn't get in the way of that ahah)
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YES!!
Me: Doo dee doo -on the internet-
Then a while rabid Christian appears
RC: Lol! We didn't see the Big Bang and we didn't see something evolve! So how do we know it's real?
Me: Well there is a lot of scientific evidence
RC: GAWD MADE ALL DIS!! EVOLITIN JUST A BELIEF!!1
Me: Umm so is God
RC: GAWD ESITS!!
Me: Umm God doesn't really exist but if you believe it then it's cool but don't dis the evolution theories please
RC: BUT IT IS FAKE!!!!!
Me: Excuse me!? I have spent pretty much half my life learning about prehistoric animals and evolution and I saw cold, hard factd
RC: BUT THE BIBLE SAYS-
Me: NO! The bible is just a BOOK! A BOOK! That some insane man wrote because he thinks there was a giant person in the sky and if God was real then astronauts would have found him by now
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Generally when it comes to science and religion I tend to try to put the two together (as in using science to solve the mysteries of Gods work and how he achieve them)
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Agreed 
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I'm quite touchy and defensive when it comes to my faith and being a Catholic, but somehow science never bothered me . . . *shrugs* I don't understand the problem. Science only convinces me in my faith. It proves it, not the opposite.
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Unfortunately, though, there are people who treat science like a religion. The ones that refuse to understand that knowledge can be dangerous or that there are things that science isn't qualified to deal with.
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I always want to facepalm when fellow atheists go around announcing stuff like "I only believe in science" or "science is my religion"
And then there's the extremely religious people who claim that creationism etc is science, or that because science isn't always 100% accurate it's all lies.
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If you dig a bit deeper it IS a matter of belief... since you are believing in the objective reality.
And reasoning is a part of human mind, no one can completely occlude objective reasoning from their nature. Which is why even the most religious of people feel the absolute needs to "rationalize" their beliefs in a (quasi) scientific way.
If anybody truly did not believe in science they will not even get offended by it. The people that do, ironically, are admitting their own shortcomings in that department.
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thank you sir
science rules
for it is fact
not myth
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I agree completely and you rock for making this stamp! 
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I go onto youtube and people are having debates about this on almost every kind of video. Love this stamp.
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