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Xyyme — My Mind
Published: 2011-05-01 01:04:28 +0000 UTC; Views: 148; Favourites: 0; Downloads: 1
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My mind works in the process of two parallel bars that are layered. Think of it like a layered wafer cookie, with another one sitting next to it completely parallel. On the first layer, the clearest one, is where my loudest thoughts are. These are the things I think just before I speak them. I think them in complete sentences, and they are almost perfect. They even consist of me misspeaking myself at times or saying "uh" or "umm" among other things.The second layer is my fast thoughts. These thoughts are used to help organize and edit the loud thoughts(layer one) before I finish thinking them, or plan out how I will think them. This layer works very quickly and doesn't use complete sentences. This layer can be skipped at times, either making the first layer self fueled, or fueled directly by the third layer.
The third layer borders being my subconscious. It thinks so fast that it doesn't really form more than one word, if that, per thought. This fuels the second layer, telling it what it should be organizing my first layer to think. This layer will often be thinking about many many things all at the same time.
Then there is the second wafer cookie. This is merely a duplicate of the first, it thinks different things, so I can therefore have two sets of completely logical thought going on at the same time, thus making me capable of thinking at twice the rate as I would if I only had one set of complete thoughts running through my mind at one time. Sometimes the second wafer is there, other times there are more, and other times there are no extras.
Finally is the sub layer, my abstract thought layer. I suppose it would be considered the wrapper that the two wafers come together in. This layer doesn't think with words at all, but rather in my mind I see scraggly and squiggly lines. They make sense to me, and can sometimes be put into words, but rarely can words do the thoughts any justice. This is not my subconscious, I can understand it completely, and I know everything that is running through it. It is quite different than my subconscious.
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I'm curious, ever thought about what flavour the wafer cookies are?
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ha ha ha I love it when good humor is brought along with a good question
I have not, however I somehow always imagined them to be orange flavored XD
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Well that is so neat! I've never tried orange flavoured wafer cookies, didn't know they existed. I've only ever seen vanilla, strawberry or chocolate.
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hmm...well I haven't had them in so long, I think they might be either vanilla or creamsicle flavored, but they looked orange, and that's what I rembmer most about them XD
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Interesting. No, that isn’t how your mind works, but at least you gave it some thought. So few do. Of this much we know about mind: we think in abstract centers. These can be identified as “motive”, the very fastest and the one we depend on in an emergency stop; “emotive”, not quite so fast but fast enough to get us in trouble by acting before we think better of it; “cogent”, better thought out but too often in hind sight; and “pneuma”, the very slowest sometimes taking lifetimes to get the picture. We all have that much in common. Each center is made up of centers in that the cogent center, for example, will have an emotive, for example, element. We have individual differences in how we think because of how these centers are in unique balance within us. A dancer uses more Pneuma (spirit) of Motive (body) and a lawyer uses more Cogent (cognitive) of Emotive (emotional) in their work (more or less).
The degree and nature of the visual aspects of how you think are determined by how linear versus conceptual your perceptual analytic process is. That is more the result of left and right brain function that is then turned over to mind for further digestion.
Keep it up. The more you think about thinking, the stronger a thinker you become. If you want a fine set of pecs, pay attention to them and exercise what you wish to strengthen. It begins by naming that which one wishes power over. It is no less true of the mind.
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lol i didn't see the added replies srry my computers so slow XP so just ignor my commpent okz srry for bothering you
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And did you ever stop to think that your both right? X3
lol srry but i felt like getting twisted in this mess u call fun lol
i'm so bord yet not tired even though its like getting close to five in the morning
on the other note how do we know wrong isn't right and right isn't wrong. both where ideas create by man where they not? so what is the true anwser to this. you could both be right you could both be wrong or both can meet at the center not all right and not all wrong or one is and one isn't. (i think i'm getting tired, i get weird when i'm tired but i'm also bord so i'm gonna enter this comment to see what i get)
i'm gonna go to bed now talk to yay when i'm normal
wait no thats imposable.................. heh heh
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It is wrong to think in terms of competition. It is more an issue of focus. It is not that one is right and one is wrong. None are right. All seek better focus.
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how do you know everyone is wrong, if it was a word created by man? for all you know we could be all right, or we could be neither, or like i said we could be both.
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It is the nature of perception that it is never complete without becoming that which is being perceived.
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i'm only 15 dude talk a few grades lower.
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believe as you wish, but this is the way in which I think, my thoughts begin on a lower level, a fast paced form of thought that cannot be put into words, it then gets moved up into my third layer. in the third layer the vague ideas are then sorted in some words, and then it decides what thoughts are relevant, and moves them on to the second layer, other thoughts are either stored for later, or deemed useless and disposed of. In the second layer the barely worded thoughts are then lengthened and put into better words, and organized in the way in which I want them to be thought, so I don't go thinking "Frames per second movie in this suck" instead of "The frames per second in this movie suck." Once it has organized it into proper thoughts I then think it with my first/top layer of thought, and it is then recorded in my memory as a thought in that way, but none of the thoughts of the lesser layers are.
I have been studying my own mind for years, this is not a recent discovery for me at all, I just finally decided I'd post it due to a recent conversation with one of my friends. I appreciate your feedback, but in this case you are wrong, this is how my mind works.
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It is only how you “believe” it works. In fact you missed some obvious points. The important thing is that you are paying attention to how you think. That in itself produces good results in the long term. Watch out for that pit, “belief”. It is an infernal liar.
The model I share with you is not how I “believe”. It is an ancient model understood by Jung and employed widely by engineers and physicists. It is just a model that happens to fit. All human minds work essentially alike. I, too, have studied this for years. Likely more years than you. I have written books on it. Well, books on the mind of human in comparison to certain other primates.
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look, I don't particularly care how famous this theory is, nothing applies to everything,as everything is relative. I happen to know that this is how I think, I shall do research on your theory that is so famous apparently. Odd how I've been researching the human mind for so many years and never heard anything about this thing you talk about. Well regardless, what you've said so far has not applied to me at all, nor do I think it will, but hey, I'll give it a shot even if it has been horribly inaccurate on my mind so far.
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Sorry to have upset you. It does apply whether you know it or not. I am an inventor and have done work in operating systems in automotive, aeronautics, and manufacturing systems for decades. The four center model is something we have built the very machines you move through life around.
It isn’t that your view of your own mind is wrong, but the first and proper approach to any such study is anthropological. Then we look for commonality. What constitutes mind in all of us? What is it in similar primates? What is the intellect within the mind set? What are the emotions? How is it we think to press the brake in an emergency stop given we do it faster than we can intellectually assess the situation? What is thinking in a spiritual or transcendent state? Are all of these things alike and done with the same mind? Are they done with parts of something that cannot be seen to even have parts? Does mind have states? If so, what are the mechanisms that lead to them? Does the mind have centers? If so, how are they arranged? Are they subject to the glands? If so, in what ways? How is the mind bound to the brain?
This has not just been a personal study for me. It has been a passionate study. It has been a life and death struggle. I have studied the evolution of mind. I have also worked with individuals who have suffered severe brain trauma and researched ways that mind patterning can effect regeneration of the brain during certain periods of early development. I went so far as to adopt a very young child who had no chance of surviving. We found a way through patterning. She is not made perfect, but she is grown now and happy. In short, I know what the hell I am talking about beyond Googling.
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-sighs-
science has caused you to have such a closed mind. You did say previously "No, that isn’t how your mind works" so I don't see how you are going to say that I am not wrong now. I not once said your theory was wrong, nor said anything negative about it, all I've said is that it does not apply to me. I am willing to research it, and I am willing to keep an open enough mind to see if it might apply to me, and I will be willing to admit it if I am wrong.
You should be informed that telling me you are an inventor and all of the things you have done and all of your research and etc etc etc isn't going to help the situation, it's only going to fuel me more to want to help you understand that your theory is a good one, but the way you use it is improper. Not everything can be applied to everyone. There are always exceptions to the rules. Often times the reason that your method works on people is because you are teaching them to think that way, or convincing them that they think in such a manner, therefor they learn to and do. It is a matter of programing the human mind like a computer.
And that brings me to the next topic, you brought up operating systems. Tell me, if the scientific community has so successfully diagnosed the functionality of the human mind, then why have they not been able to create a computer capable of thinking like a human being?
And to close this, don't apologize for upsetting me, this is something we are both passionate about, and therefore we are both bound to get upset, if anyone should apologize it ought to be me for letting my emotions get the best of me, I was skipping my second layer. I do hope you will be able to think outside of the Box, and be able to see things from an unorthodox or unconventional point of view. The mind is an abstract thing, and my belief is that no mind can be conformed to be said that it works like all others. A mind can of course be morphed and shaped to work in the same patterns as another mind, which is what I believe you are doing and then mistaking as their mind already being like that. Not even science is 100% accurate. I do hope we can continue this discussion, as it intrigues me.
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You are wrong on several points here. Sort of digging a hole. Science does not cause. That is simply a superstitious notion born in a bigotry. Science only measures after a fashion. Yes, I did say previously that is not how your mind works and now you say you don’t see, and there-in is your key. To begin with, in discussing the mind there are certain pitfalls. It is a phantom amongst relative certainties. One of those certainties is the brain and its flaws ~ and they all do have them to some degree. Another is your perceptual apparatus and their obvious limitations. Nothing is as you perceive it. We can only hope to perceive with some measure of balance that allows us a degree of control of inner and outer realities, whatever they may be other than what we are ABLE to perceive. Then there is how you take you mind in light of ego (self is never a good judge of self) and how you choose to express that… somewhat less than clinically… with a disdain for scientific method even.
Keep in mind we are of a kind in mind. That is what makes us what we are and not chimp. I will be posting this in graphical form here eventually in the book titled, of all things, “Mind”, that show how it is we are exactly structured so much the same, engineers can build around that sameness and sadly politicians can play to it, and yet in such a complex layered way that it is impossible to predict where we are headed and in a way that allows for infinite individuality.
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I think you have confused yourself on this. First you said I was wrong on several points, and then you agreed with most of the points that I made. I fear to think that you might be responding to my messages in the haste of an emotional bout. I would ask(though I'm likely entirely wrong) that you would read my messages and then take an hour before responding to give your own mind time to settle down.
I do sincerely wish you would have an open mind to see that I am not saying that your theory is wrong, but just that it doesn't apply to everyone. Each mind is an individual mind, of course they all have a similar basis, but they don't all function in the same way. Probably a wonderful example of this would be my own brain and how it perceives pain. The majority of the pain messages that I receive I receive as pleasure, not as pain. I'm sure now you are thinking that this is some sort of off balance thing in my body, or some form of mis-connected nerves, or something to that effect. I hate to break your still forming theories as to how it happened, but I know how it happened.
One day I came to the realization that pain is nothing more than a message that I've always been taught or shown by example to be a negative sensation. Once I realized this I have no longer felt pain as pain, unless I desired to. At this point I can choose if I feel pain or pleasure when I knife goes into my flesh.
A final note before I finish this message; On your profile you say that you are here searching for intellectual conversations in which you can learn things. Could you please explain to me how you plan to learn things if you continue to reject anything that you do not agree with? The first step to revelation is opening your mind to the thoughts of others, but as I see your reactions to others' comments on our discussion as well as to mine I am seeing you are just running in circles on your own train, and only those who completely agree with you are allowed one it. I do wish you would delve your mind into philosophy a bit, or at least try to have an open mind.
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Did you ever stop and think that maybe, just maybe, you're the one that is wrong?
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You are wrong. I am not the one.
You don’t get it if you think operating form the point of view of being right or wrong is even a consideration. I am in a foxhole, bullets whizzing by ~ what does one care from right or wrong who truly lives to die.
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I appreciate the attempt to help, but I can handle this, and your input is not needed, nor is it appropriate.
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