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Oop! I take it back. I said I was going to post the next pages tonight, because I thought I was leaving to go somewhere. I'm not. ^^ So here ya go!Sans is...He seems to be holding somewhat of a grudge. But, then again, he has every right to be wary of Flowey, or even hate him. He is the judge, and he is making judgement. (though, i'm sure we all personally are realing feeling for Flowey right about now. Sans, don't be a jerk! Even if it's well founded!)
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Well, personally, I don't think that Sans should forgive Flowey. Not like this.
Flowey has to work hard to gain his trust and show by his actions that he feels truly sorry about the past and that he wants to change. Words won't change the past. Words will never heal Sans' soul or the trauma he's going through. So, I seriously disagree with anyone here who says that Sans should see that Flowey has changed and that he should forgive him in order to move on. Sans' hate, his resentment towards Flowey, has been strenghtened over hundreds maybe even thousands of resets.
It's not like Flowey did one horrible thing that needs to be forgiven. Flowey wiped out the whole Underworld, made Sans watch him killing his own brother or even torturing Papyrus and only God knows what kind of awful things he did in the past, but the fact is, Flowey will never gain Sans' trust if he simply says "I'm sorry, Sans", because words, at this point, have no meaning at all. Flowey, during the game, even took pride in his misdeeds and didn't show any kind of empathy for anyone. I'm sure he did not just meet Frisk with this creepy face and made fun of what they lost, but he also did this with Sans at some point. Making fun of his losses, mocking him for his weakness and for not being able to save his brother. Flowey even mentioned that he has beein torturing others and although he might have been "possessed" during that time, it does not make the past go away. It happened. He has taken pride in his actions and Sans knows that.
Flowey needs to prove himself. Flowey needs to prove that he is honest and make others (especially Sans) see that he wants to change and that he has the strength to keep the path he has chosen. Yes, he saved his life. Today. What about tommorow? Maybe he makes another stupid life decision. He mentioned it even in this comic before, that he is making poor decisions, probably because of his yearning to feel anything. Sans and Flowey don't know each other well enough and there is a lot of hate and anger between them which can not be forgotten so easily. For Flowey to be accepted by Sans, he has to prove him every day for the rest of his life.
We're not talking about little crimes here, guys. We're talking about genocide. Not one genocide. Hundreds, thousands, millions. Okay, the last one is simply exaggerated, but maybe you know the Musical version of Undertale by "Man of the Internet", where Flowey says at one point: "Don't worry, it will only hurt the first million times", which made me think that Flowey has endured pain just as much as he experienced joy. After all, Flowey is a deep character.
I guess this comic gets deeper down with Sans and Flowey. ;D
Well, basically if Sans would already forgive Flowey (or Chara) it would be rushed and feel forced to me.
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This comic is coming along great this is vert great.
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Wow Sans, just give him a BREAK
Hahahahaha...... Plz end their suffering
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I feel bad for Frisk, a child having to play mediator. :/
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Okay, I'm gonna go a bit philosophical here, but... I get that it doesn't wipe the past, and it shouldn't! But. If you can't forgive, you can't change anything. If you keep holding grudges, you are going to lose everyone. And...that's not a good way of life. Show mercy, Sans. MERCY
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I agree 100%!
In fact, if this comic has (or perhaps will have) any sort of theme or moral lesson, it's that forgiveness is essential for moving forward. If we hold on to the bad things of the past, what good will ever come of our future? There are some really bad people out there. My best friend was kidnapped and almost murdered by two of them, but I can honestly say that if those two people came to the point where they were truly repentant, forgiveness is and should be offered. It doesn't make what they did right. It doesn't mean their won't be consequences. But there can be forgiveness and mercy even for the worst among us. That is, of course, if we WANT to be forgiven.
Whoa. Ya got ME going all philosophical here!
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Yay, we are the philosophical club! (Oh my god, I love these smileys)
Your friend's story shook me. I hope she or he is alright.
My story is more like my parent's divorce. I've seen what it can lead to if two people can't forgive each other (like Sans and Flowey), especially if someone else is stuck in the middle(Frisk). It only leads to heartache. With me, it's my dad who can't let go of grudges.
The other thing that taught me how important forgiveness is was my eye. You see, I have a prosthetic left eye. I was bullied a lot in fifth grade, especially by a girl named Kitti. We hated each other with passion! But...Over the next two years, we gradually became closer and have forgiven each other. Now, she is one of my closest friend, almost family. And we still think about how amazing it is that just a few years back we were enemies.
Anyway, I love your comic. 
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Heehee, I love them too! 
She's okay ^^ I mean, she had a lot to deal with after, but she's doing okay ^^
I'm sorry to hear about the devorce 
As for your eye, THAT'S SO COOL! I mean, I'm sure you don't have the greatest fondness for it yourself, due to being bullied, but it's really amazing! I really admire people who have prosthetic anythings. They hold a certain strength that I know I don't have. And I can see that in you as well, just by how you see the good it brought, like that enemy turned friend! I'm going to be thinking of you as Undyne now ^^ (in a fond kind way, I don't mean that in a teasing way).
Thank you, and I will try my best! ^^
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Aww, thank you so much! I appreciate the hug! Sending it right back at you!And meh, thing are getting better slowly but surely. Since my little sister has been born, they need to talk, because they need to plan since I have to visit them more often. So who knows? Things might turn up for the better. Hopefully.
As for my eye, yeah, it's pretty cool. Hehe. Makes it easy to dress up for Halloween. And YOU thinking of ME as UNDYNE?!?!? This is probably the biggest compliment I have ever gotten. And you are right. I am very fortunate to be surrounded by supportive people. And, as surprising as it may be, I'm glad I was bullied. it changed me for the better. I...used to be the bully. I was horrible. I knew when I had the right cards and when to play them.(Think of it as when I had a birthday party coming and I gave out the invites. Afterwards, no one could be mean to me, cause then I would take back the invitation. I was young. This was my best mean-idea. ) But being bullied taught me how often people feel alone and horrible about themselves. Since then, I turned into a protector of the hurt and the fallen. I'm usually on the bullied people's side. So in a way, I'm glad.
Good. I'm rooting for you!!
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You are very welcome! If there's anything anyone can tell you about me, it's that I'm a hugger (virtually and in person ^^)!
I am glad things are getting a bit better. Perhaps your sister will bring you all closer again ^^ I will keep you in my prayers!
I never thought of that!
And heehee, yup! Undyne is a perfect example of overcoming "disabilities". I mean, she may have only one good eye, but she's the hero! Ya know?! ^^
That's usually the case though isn't it? I mean, bullies are just people. They have their troubles and difficulties just like anyone else. Doesn't mean it was right, or is right. But you have the special advantage of knowing BOTH sides!
I am proud of you for that!
Thank you! I'm root'n for you too! 
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I love Sans. He's just so chill that people should learn from him.... I kinda adapted to his way to live.. "kinda"...sweat_smile
but not here
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If Sans was holding a glass of milk, he'd make a milkshake.
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Flowey's sorry.
Frisk worry.
Sans ain't sorry,
but I'm shure he worry.
Bad grammar to make lyrics.
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Well Sans, Flowey has no soul
hard to blame him for his actions in some way
(if he had a soul, he would'nt have hurted anyone)
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Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope. I'm still firmly in camp Sans right now. One is not entitled to forgive and forget, because frankly it makes the feelings that consumed the hurt person seem invalid.
Flowey/Asriel is changing and good for him, but he still made a lot of mistakes. I'd be surprised if there wasn't always some underlying animosity in every future interaction between the two for the rest of their lives.
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Sans forgive but don't forget as the Germans say
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Sans. It's true that Asriel did some terrible things as Flowey. There is no disputing that. Thing is, that's the past. There is no need to be this way now. He's changed, can't you see that? You have every right to distrust him, but don't think of him as an enemy. He's not, not anymore. When he did those things you are thinking of now, he was an emotionless, guiltless flower, desperate for something new. Anything new. After enough cycles in a looping world, seeing the same people do the same things and react in the same way every time, you too would eventually lose yourself. Except Flowey didn't have a conscience to stop him from killing. Even with one, murder could be seen as a victimless crime with that power, because all it takes is a reset, and none of it happened. I'm not supporting what he did, simply explaining why he did it, so you can better understand him, and hopefully come to, if not trust him, at least understand that Asriel and Flowey are 2 different monsters in the same body.
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Come on, Sans. Ease up on the poor guy. He just got done being possessed by some unknown force. That being said, I do not, in ANY way, condone Flowey's actions in the past... but that's just it. The past is the past. Flowey is a different... flower... now. You know what I mean. If he's changed, I see no reason why you can't move forward as allies. That doesn't mean you have to forgive him, or forget what he did. At least try to set the past aside for now. I'm sure you'll be much better off for it in the long run.
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At least Flowey has found a bit of his Asriel self again
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Papyrus get yo bones over here before they tear each other apart.
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Well personally, I always thought Sans being the judge is not right. Sans is very hypocrite and I think he doesn't deserve to be the judge of anyone. My opinion.
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Does anybody else want popcorn? I also got some sodas if you guys want some.
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*raises hand* Meeee
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(Gives some popcorn and a soda)
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Thanks you~ *sips and chomps loudly yet slowly*
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Ho boy, everyone's one edge. The atmosphere is tense o0o
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Sans is gonna fall on his backside if he's not careful. Exhaustion and rage aren't a good combo to be having.
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The scars are too deep... And that goes for everyone.
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Well this ain't going to be a happy friendship, eh?
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