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Published: 2006-12-19 05:05:31 +0000 UTC; Views: 1700; Favourites: 25; Downloads: 0
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pencil, acrylic ink, water soluable colored pencils, various ink pens on 96 pound bristol + digitalRelated content
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Your gallery is really inspirational to someone trying to teach themselves to paint.
You have a gorgeous range of tone and contrast in this and I love the bits of vermillion/orange...looks sort of erie, but in a nice way.
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I don't know...when you going to send me a reference shot or three to look at?
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I must agree with everyone else. This is stunning! I personally think the orange suits both Frank and Mandi very well.
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That's funny, since Frank loathes the colour orange.
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This is so beautiful! However I'm wondering... What aspects of this are digital? Fine work.
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Digital is is mostly reserved for color and tonal adjustment (in some cases quite radical alterations), as well as subtle things which appear obvious in a side by side before/after comparison, but may appear seamless in the final product by itself (which is how I like it actually).
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absolutely caught me of guard when I saw this in my watch. This is wonderful and the colours you've used are a perfect representation of them
You're very talented sir
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absolutely caught me of guard when I saw this in my watch.
Absolutely caught me off guard when Frank requested it.
You're very talented sir
You shameless flatterer.
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Egads! This is WONDERFUL! That orange is absolutely perfect considering the subjects. 
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I like the use of the orange. It does well, and in my mind, isn't violent, and makes this quite passive. The detail is impeciable..I love the glasses on each, as well as Amanda's headphones. Your work, is as usual, quite amazing. I am impressed, as usual. Keep up the great work.
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headphones? she's not wearing headphones
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WEll...it looked like it to me...at the back of her head...my eyes were bothering me at the time...my eye tried to eat my contact..so that might have messed with it...oh well...either way...his work is fuckin awesome..
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you've completely outdone yourself bro, this is s much more han I could have expected!
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t's us!
That was the idea.
this is so great!
Blame Frank. 
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Hey here I love the mixed media. Not sure about the orange, but the use of color does create a lot of interest compositionally.
At first from the thumb I thought it was inconsequential, but clicking on the fullview has a very different striking effect. Mostly it is the details, the high contrast is deceptive but the eye discovers interest where you have hidden all the details. The more I look the more I search - so for those who catch the details will really enjoy this piece.
The earrings are great, and give personality, every accessory has a purpose, and the piece is straightforward and simple.
Mkay shhh I'm buzzed, so this is probably nonsensical.
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1. That avatar is ridiculously hypnotic. Which is silly for a grown man to admit that he is perplexed by a smiley emote bouncing on a gigantic peppermint...in the snow.
2. The orange works better than most colors (it is roughly in the complimentary range), and when doing this kind of stuff, I tend to go safe when it is people I know, unless I have been specifically asked to do otherwise, since my color perception is deeply awry and results in things like: [link] and [link]
3. Most of the interesting parts are in the textural bits. I actually use a coarse brush in spots to intntionally flay the paper surface and let the goache and ink seep in, and it is only really evident at full size (in this case 3000x2600). The base of my skin tones is done in a mix of ash blue gouache and silk white acrylic ink, which itself behaves weirdly together and needs digital tweakery to get balanced right after the fact. Otherwise everyone would look like extended members of the Addams family.
4. so this is probably nonsensical. Compared to some of the utterly discombobulated noobism I have had to suffer, your nonsense is notably coherent.
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Lmao. I'm glad you like it? People seem to love my avatar and it's the product of a drunken bored night of laziness. It was a procrastination from a painting, lol.
Okay moving on, I can see your color choice, but I'm not sure it's my taste 
The textures and details are fab. Keep it up..
And I think you are one of the rare few who can speak myntispeak when I'm drunk. 
Gracie
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LOL. Laziness can produce useful results. Many of the technical shortcuts I use led to random investigations into how media would work if istarted slapping them together semi-methodically.
As for color theory, I actually know "proper" color theory, but my head largely ignores it. I tend to see as much tonal contrast as much as actual hue variations. It is the same with abstracts, where texture affects how I perceive minute color shifts and I start placing color relative to itself rather than as an overarching schema.
Yes, I ponder this stuff. Usually when the power goes out and there is nothing to do, its time to break out the cold tea and dig deep into the philosophical navel. Which usually results in a lint ball shaped like Jackson Pollack.
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Lmao. Wow, well cheers then. Not exactly a common approach to color, but interesting. 
I barely remember writing what I did last night so I had to check the comment thread
I find your theories interesting. I don't ponder philosophy so much, but I love to observe everything when no one is watching, makes for some interesting visual material a lot of the time.
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I'm still very much a student myself in everything, but if you don't mind I'll keep critiquing your work when it drops in my message centre 'cause frankly this has been a great discussion.
Go right ahead. Part of my initial decision to get involved with the site was discourse like this with some of the early contacts I made with people like ^alchemism ~03 and ~digifox much of it in the same vein.
I find your theories interesting.
You are a minority. Most find them confusing, including myself
Truth be told, my formal training was limited and spotty, while I myself have a very autodidactic bent, which is why I know so many "rules" but sometimes use them in what seems to be an arbitrary manner. I improvise a lot. I think of it a lot like how a jazz sideman might approach an otherwise unrehearsed piece of music; I have a skeletal melody line, or an ostinato I need to play in a section, but otherwise am left to determine by improvising all the chordal parts and the tempo as I go along. I have enough technique to play my way through (but with very clear limitations), so it becomes totally intuitive as to how its applied around what I do and do not. In the proces I might "learn: how some parts fit better contextually at times and other times do not, or build things that I am never otherwise able to replicate usefully.
'Tis weird.
And you thought I was just a raging misanthrope.
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Rules are not always meant to be followed, I consider there to be only theories and ideas about how to do art - but no one way is ever wrong. Just so long as you figure out how to do it right.
I think also - the more we push to experiment, you are right there... we learn. Those that do the same things all the time, they learn one way of working very well, but then get constricted by that method and find it difficult to break out of. Even if you can't reproduce the same effect, you learn all the same, I think. Dunno tho!
Yep, still think you're raging. But it's cool, makes you funny as hell when you rant.
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